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Specialized Hook Baits - Catch Report and Q+A
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TCarper

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#1885 21 Oct 2023 at 6.26pm

All the Bug hook baits are long gone now. The only CF member who said they wanted them who I did not hear from, was Reuben. Saved you some Reuben if you still wanted them. It's no problem if you did not. We had to roll a load more yesterday anyway.

These are the 16mm, balanced and pop ups.

Anyone who saw the original thread about that lithium bait gun... I picked up another one on Prime day. It was a spur of the moment thing late at night. Cheapest on Amazon now is Ł160. On Prime day I got another one for Ł133 I think it was with a voucher. With two batteries I thought that was more than reasonable. It's black Friday soon, they will be cheaper again.

Coming all way from China now too. All of them on Amazon are.

TCarper

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#1884 21 Oct 2023 at 6.12pm

In reply to Post #1883
Thank you

scozza

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#1883 20 Oct 2023 at 5.56pm

In reply to Post #1881
Top man

No more questions just really interested, thought you were making some kind of powder slurry

Keep it all to yourself

Something good going on for sure which is great to see

TCarper

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#1882 20 Oct 2023 at 9.59am

Jacko, GPB2 13mm balanced over Scopex Squid freezer baits

TCarper

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#1881 20 Oct 2023 at 7.29am

In reply to Post #1880
Very dodgy questions. Of course it's a SHB trade secret

No. I should really have said, we are taking the 'soluble' food ingredients in that sentance, from inside the cooked bait. Our curing process involves two different types of liquids (cures). Obviously for the Bug, both are based entirely around the Bug liquid food.

I actually asked Jason to send me some readymades to match up too. But only after, I had smelled the base mix for the first time. The base mix, has a very strong creamy aroma, that smells nothing like the liquid food that the finished bait smells of. I knew straight away, when I first smelled the base mix, that we were going to slightly change the smell of the finished Bug hookbaits after it went through our curing processes. I knew we would drag that creamy aroma (among other things) out from the base mix itself. And it did. They are currently being matched up for smell to the human nose (it only matters to you lot, not the fish). The smell to our noses changed ever so slightly, but it's only all stuff that is inside the baits base mix already, we have just dragged it out. That changes the smell very slightly. The important part of the process is that it has also changed the structure of the hook bait itself, how it will now react once it goes under water. It becomes uber soluble, it's been unlocked.

The process is absolutely EVERYTHING. Our GPB2 are so incredible, because they contain a stupid amount of soluble pre digested fishmeal. Locking that inside a bait is very easy. We are unlocking it to a fish through our curing process though. I could give you two hook baits. Both identical in every single way to you. One is made in a traditional way. One is put through our process five times. The difference to the carp is absolutely stupid. One will outfish the other 5 - 1 or more.

No more dodgy questions pretty please. Wait for the hook bait article. It will get posted online eventually

scozza

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#1880 20 Oct 2023 at 6.42am

In reply to Post #1874
taking the dry powdered food ingredients inside the Bug, liquefying it

Interesting reading as usual Mark

So you are soaking the base mix and then drying it out before rolling it? Could be me that has misinterpreted that wrong? If it’s a SH trade secret, no bother

TCarper

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#1879 20 Oct 2023 at 5.20am

Dan loving life

Andy's biggest from that 2500 acre public venue, S3 over Creamino freezer baits

FishOn Ricci with a relic, GPB2/S2 over Krill

Carl's son Jude, biggest in lake, GPB2 over Inception freezer baits

Carl, GPB2 over Inception

JUde, GPB2 over Inception

ron83

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#1878 19 Oct 2023 at 10.15pm

In reply to Post #1877
Exciting times - should have a message from me

Spike

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#1877 19 Oct 2023 at 4.17pm

Ordered and can’t wait to try out

Boo

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#1876 19 Oct 2023 at 12.47pm

In reply to Post #1874
Looking forward to getting these in my collection 😂

Mattsaunders

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#1875 19 Oct 2023 at 11.30am

In reply to Post #1874
I would love to take some of these to France on the 4th November. I've messaged the WhatsApp numer. Cheers Matt

TCarper

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#1874 19 Oct 2023 at 6.47am

The Bug hook baits are done and at various stages of the curing process currently. They will be ready to send out next week. They are identical to the Bug freezer baits in look and smell. They contain 80% Bug base mix, with some of our gear added to the base mix. The liquid cure, is around 70% Bug liquid food. We took the oils that go into this bait separately, and have processed them before adding them to the hook baits. They have then gone through our curing process five times. Putting them through this process, is taking the dry powdered food ingredients inside the Bug, liquefying it, then popping it all back into the hook bait along with the liquid food. They are 100% food, with natural cork for buoyancy. We have added no binders to the Bug, just our magic.

They have gone through this curing process really, really well. From the catch reports I constantly see, it's a great freezer bait. We have just turned that into a hook bait, that the carp will find absolutely irresistible.

Anybody who has already previously messaged our work phone about them, or PM'd on here will be getting them. We only have a certain amount done for now. The balanced might be slightly more buoyant than ideal on this first batch. I have never seen this bait previously. I even asked Jason to send me a few readymades, just so I could make sure the finished hook baits were identical to the food bait. Knowing how much cork is required to balance them, can only be discovered through practice. You only find out how dense and heavy a mix is, after it's rolled. The Bug is an incredibly light mix it would seem. I would imagine when completed the balanced will be slightly more buoyant than ideal (easy resolve). The pop ups, will hold up a tank in terms of buoyancy.

The only people who are getting these for now, are Jason, a couple of his sponsored anglers and you lot on this forum. Someone asked us in the comments on a social media post this week when the Cheese would be available. I stupidly replied. Two hours later, after a scary amount of messages to our work phone, I had to delete the comment.

Just for these. Please PM me on here, if you are a named CF member who has already previously shown interest in them. I will tell you how to order them. We have them in 16 & 13mm CC pop ups. And 16 & 13mm balanced. They will be sent out next week. Please make sure you add the full name that will be on the order in the PM, and also sizes, pop ups or balanced.

Some of what we have done drying between cures

This two photos below are a 12 egg mix of Bug balanced hook baits in the bin, just after boiling. I had never seen anything like it. After boiling, the structure of the bait changed completely. They underwent some sort of strange chemical reaction in the boiling water. The bait fell apart, crumbled on its own, flaked around the edges and resembled a sponge texturewise. I panicked and was straight on the phone to Jason at DNA. I knew as soon as I boiled them, that DNA would unquestionably have had big problems cooking this bait themselves. This is the reason that the Bug is the only one of their baits, which they will not sell you the base mix for. Jason told me they wasted 100's of kg's of bait while developing it. Loads of it floating, or crumbling if not prepared in certain ways. I could see exactly why!! I have never experienced anything like it with a base mix. Nothing worth having is ever easy. We had already rolled the pop ups. They came out absolutely perfect straight away. But the much higher proportion of cork in the hook baits, had clearly given it far more structural strength. This allowed it to be cooked in a normal way, without provoking this reaction at all. The pop ups were sorted perfectly straight away. The balanced, took a lot more care and attention to get right! A 12 egg mix, is a lot of hook baits in the bin.

Same mix, golden this time.

reubenmills

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#1873 16 Oct 2023 at 4.33pm

In reply to Post #1866
Thank you - how does one get put on the waiting list for some of those bug wafters / hookbaits please ?!

Muddy_Hi-Lux

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#1872 16 Oct 2023 at 12.46pm

In reply to Post #1868
Blimey, fished there in 2004 just after John and Maiv acquired it, as a test fish. 4 of us went.
Biggest fish of the week 35lb (his only fish). I had loads and loads, biggest 16lb

scozza

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#1871 16 Oct 2023 at 6.59am

In reply to Post #1845
Well done that man

Must be nice when you have somewhere like that to fish!


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