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Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #1134 23 Jun 2022 at 2.51pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1130
Its actually ( with respect to mark, he knows I rate his knowledge ) quite easy with hookbaits, feed is another matter, but it all depends on what else is in there, with hookbaits you aren't taking up the large proportion usually attributed to dietary requirements, you can balance the binders and solubles more to make a bait perform how a hook bait should.

CPSP90 is a very very good additive one of my favourite predigested fishmeal's, its brilliant at 50% in hook bait paste wraps and will be equally effective in a hookbait.

for feed baits I tend to recommend 5-25% depending on the other ingredients used and intended application.

more more complex and attractive ( in my opinion ) than most ingredients.
Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #1133 23 Jun 2022 at 2.35pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1132
ive been doing it for yr in france for the reasons i mentioned, but also in winter on shallow estate lake, stops the coots pulling hookbaits off.
Mitchawl
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Mitchawl
   Old Thread  #1132 23 Jun 2022 at 2.15pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1129
Interested in the answer to this. I have some shrink on my but wondering if I should get some pre-wrapped...
scozza
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   Old Thread  #1131 23 Jun 2022 at 1.42pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1125
2nd

Golden-pheasant
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   Old Thread  #1130 23 Jun 2022 at 11.12am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1123
Getting that level of CPSP 90 into a boilie and still have it be usable as a bait is worthy of a Nobel prize nomination, nothing less.

Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #1129 23 Jun 2022 at 11.09am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1128
Have you ever shrink tubed the baits TC?

I tend to do that when in france. Slower leakage i know, but more confidence when leaving rods out for longer periods of time when crays etc are present
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #1128 23 Jun 2022 at 10.57am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1126
Quote... So best to mesh them, Mark?

Only if there are very large amounts of small silvers in the water Ken. I leave them out for 24 hours on the river Thames... This is always my barometer to a hook bait being durable enough in a 'lake' situation. If they will last 24 hours in flowing water with small fish attacking them... They are good to go on a lake.

Small silvers & naturals attack them like piranhas to get at the pre digested & garlic cure. I would only bother meshing them, if I was ever to lose them off the hair. I've not lost one off of the hair before, despite leaving them out in the river all night plenty.

They do wash out incredibly quickly though, I would recommend larger than normal bait stops, I tend to use the extender stops on the Thames which have a very large top to them. Small bait stops are not the one for the GPB2.

I gave some to Gary Peet of the Tackle Box early last year, he used them on a southern river all year long and caught loads on them. He did not lose any off the hair either, but did comment to me how soft they go, and how much the silver fish love them, exactly the same as I have found.

After 24 hours, I still find you will have a harder core in the centre. We have sold absolutely tonnes this year, and have not had one single complaint, only messages of incredible catches being made on them. It's just something that needs to be considered mate, they do soften very quickly indeed. Far quicker than our other hook baits. Bigger hair stops will be fine though.
Mitchawl
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Mitchawl
   Old Thread  #1127 23 Jun 2022 at 10.52am  1  Login    Register
Received my GPB2 through yesterday. Looks and smells incredible. Taking them to France with me tomorrow, fingers crossed I get results like below 👀
KenTownley
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KenTownley
   Old Thread  #1126 23 Jun 2022 at 10.48am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1123
So best to mesh them, Mark?
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #1125 23 Jun 2022 at 9.09am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1124
That common

TCarper
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   Old Thread  #1124 23 Jun 2022 at 8.59am  4  Login    Register
Dinton black swan 47lb+



Dinton black swan 47lb+





TCarper
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   Old Thread  #1123 23 Jun 2022 at 8.54am  2  Login    Register
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The pre digested makes them go a lot softer. In reality mate, you should not 'really' be able to put that amount of such a soluble additive into any hook bait.... And still expect it too hold together after a few hours in the water. 10% is the recommended levels in a freezer bait for those exact reasons... We are using 33% added to the GPB1 base mix. One third of the total GPB2 base mix is constructed using pre digested fishmeal. Uber soluble.

The only reason we can get so much into the GPB2, is because of our curing process post boiling. This enables us to harden the bait up sufficiently enough to be able to do it.... But they do go very soft after a night in the water. This has always been a big reason in why all of our hook baits work so well. The more soluble something is... The easier it is for a carp to detect in water. It's a fine balancing act.

The results have been absolutely incredible... And if I am honest, a little bit scary for me personally.

They are catching far too many carp to put it simply. We are taking on new customers at an unheralded rate currently. Everyone is buying GPB2's. The reason I have not posted on here for a little while, is because I am currently working 7 days a week often 15-16 hours a day just trying to keep our waiting times down to as low as possible. I get messages every single day asking when the cheese will be released... But there is absolutely zero chance of that happening any time soon.

We simply cannot make the GPB2 fast enough at the moment.
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #1122 23 Jun 2022 at 8.40am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1118
Thanks Ken, I am much better now.... Just far to much work to do

Well done Cam!
Cam
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Cam
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   Old Thread  #1121 22 Jun 2022 at 2.54pm  2  Login    Register
As per the post in Catch Reports

The carp seem to liking The Bug and S3 combo!
22.00lb last night on a overnighter.

210622-22-00lb-L

210622-22-00lb-R>
pearbo
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pearbo
   Old Thread  #1120 22 Jun 2022 at 12.51pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1119
Iíve found the gpb2 to be much softer than the gpb1. Must leak loads of attraction out. Had four fish on the same white s2 last weekend, was about 6mm by the time I caved and got a new one from the tub.
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