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scozza
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   Old Thread  #650 27 Jun 2023 at 6.53pm  0  Login    Register
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Be interesting to see how it pans out for Honda and MM, as they say, nobody bigger than the name over the door
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #649 27 Jun 2023 at 1.44pm  0  Login    Register
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love it
Goose
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   Old Thread  #648 26 Jun 2023 at 9.40pm  0  Login    Register
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Think a 100k is conservative bearing in mind an engine is 200 to 250k and frame and swing arm 500k brakes 70k all in euros but who knows what it actually costs honda.

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scozza
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   Old Thread  #647 26 Jun 2023 at 6.24pm  0  Login    Register
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maybe there should be a rule limiting the number of times you can crash at each venue.

Maybe that’s Hondas bank balance, got to sell a lot of bikes to fund that lot, say 100k a crash

Anybody hear Neil Hodgson comments about the Ducati, even on the slower tracks they are still quick now due to them squaring off and just using the power to drive out of them

Rat boy and Honda just seem in a total mess, don’t know where they are going and as for Yamaha, gone!
clicky
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   Old Thread  #646 26 Jun 2023 at 6.08pm  0  Login    Register
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I think mm will leave Honda for another team next season. Or listen to his grandad and retire.
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   Old Thread  #645 26 Jun 2023 at 6.06pm  0  Login    Register
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The rules of the long lap penalty is the rider must keep in-between the white lines. Acosta crossed them and hit the outside green paint so should of had to re take it.
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   Old Thread  #644 26 Jun 2023 at 4.58pm  0  Login    Register
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Despirattion for MM and honda, after five crashes last week ,maybe there should be a rule limiting the number of times you can crash at each venue.
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   Old Thread  #643 26 Jun 2023 at 4.01pm  0  Login    Register
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I think so for the moment, just hope they become a bit more competitive for next season.

Just read Quat has a long lap penalty at Silverstone for taking out Espargaro. Personally I thought there was room for him to try it, losing the front end was incedental, it didn't seem like he went to fast in but I guess its conjecture.

Might have my wires crossed here but that long lap where he went in the green, if rules are rules.....

Marc Marquez declaring himself fit with 2 broken ribs, what are Honda thinking, simply shocking, glad race directors stepped in.

Jake Dixon, I was rooting for him, is it 9 third places before finally getting his win, thats what you call quite consistent. The futures looking very bright indeed.
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   Old Thread  #642 26 Jun 2023 at 9.37am  0  Login    Register
well chuffed for Jake Dixon,what a ride..well pished of with race control though. demoting brad binder twice from 3rd place, in the sprint then again in main race. ok rules are rules but that track seriously needs some of the green paint removed in places. and race control need to re look at acostas long lap penalty in the Moto 2 race. or is it because Acosta is going to be dornas next mm..
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   Old Thread  #641 25 Jun 2023 at 8.31pm  0  Login    Register
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Prila and KTM third and fourth, has the Japanese era come to an end ?
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   Old Thread  #640 25 Jun 2023 at 9.58am  0  Login    Register
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Yep, how can he blame the bike for rear ending someone
It was embarrassing, you could almost hear his brain whirring, stare at the bike, no that'll look silly so I'll half heartedly gesticulate at the other rider...

I do hope Bez can do the double today, he didn't seem that confident in his post race.

As for the Ducati, how they can still be the fastest on the straight by some way is just crazy though KTM seem to be catching up.

Edit, did you see Bez blast past Bag on that corner, I could have sworn he was going wide, thats a lesson in late braking I didnt think was possible, but it is the sprint, perhaps Bag didn't want to push it.
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   Old Thread  #639 20 Jun 2023 at 8.27am  0  Login    Register
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Agreed and five crashes for MM.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #638 18 Jun 2023 at 6.57pm  0  Login    Register
Great ride by JM today
Goose
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   Old Thread  #637 17 Jun 2023 at 7.49pm  0  Login    Register
You don't get to win six Moto GP world championships without a huge amount of talent but I think the bike was then the best out there and had been tailored to suit him as nobody else could match his success. Things moved on though and rival manufacturers caught up , Ducati always had the performance but only Casey stoner could ride it but now they have improved it's handling and made all that power more user friendly. Always been a Ducati fan and Audi have helped refine them and bring reliability they once lacked but for me they've lost a little of their character that made me love them.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #636 17 Jun 2023 at 6.02am  0  Login    Register
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Marc, I'll never like him after the Rossi incedent but as of late hes had me shouting at the screen

Super competitive but always been a dirty rat for me

Reckless is another word. I agree, he is involved in a lot of crashes. He was claiming he could only find the limit of the bike by crashing it out, fair point if he is not taking others out but he is crashing out all the time and some of the dives up the inside just show a desperate man for me

I am certain that the Honda has been developed for MM because Mir is a good rider and is getting nothing out of it. Like mentioned, must be an expensive game for Honda!

I am having my doubts now about if he will ever win a championship again myself, Honda’s demise with MM and Yamaha’s straight 4. I can only see KTM or Aprillia been a serious challenge to Ducati for a a while now. Makes you wonder if Japanese manufacturers have stagnated whilst Ducati and Audi have developed something very special in the V4. Bearing in mind Honda have run a V4 for a long time!
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