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scozza

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#647 26 Jun 2023 at 6.24pm

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maybe there should be a rule limiting the number of times you can crash at each venue.

Maybe that’s Hondas bank balance, got to sell a lot of bikes to fund that lot, say 100k a crash

Anybody hear Neil Hodgson comments about the Ducati, even on the slower tracks they are still quick now due to them squaring off and just using the power to drive out of them

Rat boy and Honda just seem in a total mess, don’t know where they are going and as for Yamaha, gone!

clicky

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#646 26 Jun 2023 at 6.08pm

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I think mm will leave Honda for another team next season. Or listen to his grandad and retire.

clicky

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#645 26 Jun 2023 at 6.06pm

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The rules of the long lap penalty is the rider must keep in-between the white lines. Acosta crossed them and hit the outside green paint so should of had to re take it.

Goose

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#644 26 Jun 2023 at 4.58pm

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Despirattion for MM and honda, after five crashes last week ,maybe there should be a rule limiting the number of times you can crash at each venue.

vossy1

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#643 26 Jun 2023 at 4.01pm

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I think so for the moment, just hope they become a bit more competitive for next season.

Just read Quat has a long lap penalty at Silverstone for taking out Espargaro. Personally I thought there was room for him to try it, losing the front end was incedental, it didn't seem like he went to fast in but I guess its conjecture.

Might have my wires crossed here but that long lap where he went in the green, if rules are rules.....

Marc Marquez declaring himself fit with 2 broken ribs, what are Honda thinking, simply shocking, glad race directors stepped in.

Jake Dixon, I was rooting for him, is it 9 third places before finally getting his win, thats what you call quite consistent. The futures looking very bright indeed.

clicky

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#642 26 Jun 2023 at 9.37am

well chuffed for Jake Dixon,what a ride..well pished of with race control though. demoting brad binder twice from 3rd place, in the sprint then again in main race. ok rules are rules but that track seriously needs some of the green paint removed in places. and race control need to re look at acostas long lap penalty in the Moto 2 race. or is it because Acosta is going to be dornas next mm..

Goose

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#641 25 Jun 2023 at 8.31pm

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Prila and KTM third and fourth, has the Japanese era come to an end ?

vossy1

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#640 25 Jun 2023 at 9.58am

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Yep, how can he blame the bike for rear ending someone

It was embarrassing, you could almost hear his brain whirring, stare at the bike, no that'll look silly so I'll half heartedly gesticulate at the other rider...

I do hope Bez can do the double today, he didn't seem that confident in his post race.

As for the Ducati, how they can still be the fastest on the straight by some way is just crazy though KTM seem to be catching up.

Edit, did you see Bez blast past Bag on that corner, I could have sworn he was going wide, thats a lesson in late braking I didnt think was possible, but it is the sprint, perhaps Bag didn't want to push it.

Goose

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#639 20 Jun 2023 at 8.27am

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Agreed and five crashes for MM.

scozza

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#638 18 Jun 2023 at 6.57pm

Great ride by JM today

Goose

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#637 17 Jun 2023 at 7.49pm

You don't get to win six Moto GP world championships without a huge amount of talent but I think the bike was then the best out there and had been tailored to suit him as nobody else could match his success. Things moved on though and rival manufacturers caught up , Ducati always had the performance but only Casey stoner could ride it but now they have improved it's handling and made all that power more user friendly. Always been a Ducati fan and Audi have helped refine them and bring reliability they once lacked but for me they've lost a little of their character that made me love them.

scozza

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#636 17 Jun 2023 at 6.02am

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Marc, I'll never like him after the Rossi incedent but as of late hes had me shouting at the screen

Super competitive but always been a dirty rat for me

Reckless is another word. I agree, he is involved in a lot of crashes. He was claiming he could only find the limit of the bike by crashing it out, fair point if he is not taking others out but he is crashing out all the time and some of the dives up the inside just show a desperate man for me

I am certain that the Honda has been developed for MM because Mir is a good rider and is getting nothing out of it. Like mentioned, must be an expensive game for Honda!

I am having my doubts now about if he will ever win a championship again myself, Honda’s demise with MM and Yamaha’s straight 4. I can only see KTM or Aprillia been a serious challenge to Ducati for a a while now. Makes you wonder if Japanese manufacturers have stagnated whilst Ducati and Audi have developed something very special in the V4. Bearing in mind Honda have run a V4 for a long time!

vossy1

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#635 17 Jun 2023 at 0.26am

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Personally, NO. If he had the straight line power he still wouldn't have the ability to late brake like Bagnaia, maybe he could learn and I'm being a bit harsh. I'm fairly certain he wouldn't think twice of trying though even if he knew he wasn't there yet, that's not drive, that's recklessness.

On a different note, Zarco, I wish he'd get his timing to push those tires right, could be a exciting dark horse if he does.

Goose

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#634 16 Jun 2023 at 8.17pm

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MM must be the costliest rider any team has ever employed, not just the salary he commands but the repair bills must be horrendous. Thing if you were a team boss with bikes capable of winning would you gamble on him if the opportunity to take him on came your way ?

vossy1

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#633 16 Jun 2023 at 12.14pm

Not been on the forum for a while, still been watching the GP though and somethings really irritating me greatly and it ends with Marquez on both counts. 1 of them with expectations and skill beyond his equipment but he just won't compromise.

Marc, I'll never like him after the Rossi incedent but as of late hes had me shouting at the screen. So his bike won't do what he wants it to do and he's more capable than the bike. Normally, falling off would serve as a warning but no, not even the threat of losing his sight is enough for his ego. So, if you have a rider that won't tone it down, with a bike that will go down the track in his hands because..err...they don't know why and a garage that lets him do it surely someone running the race should be looking at it. The amount of time he falls, causes craches and the potential for a serious injury is simply getting ridiculous. Who's protecting the other riders, it's shocking. It's not as if it's just the 1 incedent in the race, your watching it thinking not again, and even when it calmed down before he lost the front end I said to the Mrs he won't finish anyway, he'll bin it, he can't help himself.
Think it was Marc that could have T boned someone in this race on the corner when he went in too hot, with commentators saying it's happens

getting caught up in the other bikes air streams...it probably does..but in his case.

I know he's a champion, I know he's a winner by nature but he has to say in his head , I'll do 6th as my bikes not good enough (unless something external happens to the better bikes).

Anyhoo. Miller, I so wish he could get it together on that bike, you see glimpses but he's not there and Zarco, very impressed, but I'm loving B&M @ 46, aren't they doing well

As for the bikes, wierd, now the Ducatis are turning can anyone stop them, always had the extra grunt for years over rivals. The F1 connection, I get it and if KTM get that power difference sorted they could verly likely dominate, looking very good.
We've got a couple of nice little twisty tracks coming up, S&E, should be very interesting...if I can block MM out of my head or he gets injured before the sprint

...only joking.


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