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scozza
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   Old Thread  #2972 27 Oct 2023 at 5.05pm    Login    Register
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Great boxer USYK no doubt, athlete. not a true heavyweight and who has he fought at heavy so far, a well over the hill Chisora, Joshua who canít box for toffee, body builder, and he lost or should have against Dubios so that makes him a great does it, wins over those 3 lol, come back when he has clocked up over 20 then we can talk about greatness

And all of those 3 are not even close to Fury or even Wilder.

I donít dislike Joshua, great role model, but I knew from the start he was not the one that everybody was making him out to be, his fights were cherry picked over the years, he is a very powerful lad but lacks boxing skills, and movement, massively

And as for Holyfield he was a proper boxer, athlete, and warrior and you canít compare USYK with him, he has been in wars, look at the fights he had!
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #2971 27 Oct 2023 at 8.20am    Login    Register
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How is usyk not a heavyweight champion in your eyes Chris? Because he took the belts from aj who you have a clear dislike of? Or because he's an ex cruiserweight? (Just like haye/holyfield before him)
scozza
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   Old Thread  #2970 27 Oct 2023 at 6.33am    Login    Register
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Take him out of the equation and it only leaves Wilder as a true heavyweight champion for me. Far too much politics in boxing, the belts should dictate who fights who next.

and that dikhead father of his is a disgrace an embarrassment

Made me laugh, he was offering Mike Tyson out, letís have a straightener lol. I am quite confident in saying that MT (who truly is one of the greatest of all time) could put him out in 3 if he wanted to and thatís if he didnít catch him right with the first two
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #2969 27 Oct 2023 at 6.17am    Login    Register
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He's signed to fight usyk next so not sure why everyone has the arse about that now?
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
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   Old Thread  #2968 26 Oct 2023 at 11.28pm    Login    Register
Right from day one when everyone was slagging Tyson Fury off
I could see he was trying to sell himself and could see he had a boxing brain and became a BIG fan
he can box either hand and switch seamlessly very gifted boxer

but recently I have gone right off him its not about the sport its simply greed and money he could easily have made the usk fight but was just to greedy

and that dikhead father of his is a disgrace an embarrassment
no I hope he gets knocked the fook out unlikely but it could happen
tazi
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tazi
   Old Thread  #2967 26 Oct 2023 at 10.57pm    Login    Register
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Canít knock him for what has gone before but to then take the proverbial out of such a great sport I find galling in all honesty. Should be about becoming undisputed and been one of the best in your era. To then fight someone thatís never boxed before solely for the money (heís made as it is) really does take the 9155 out of the sport and out of himself really. Not for me.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #2966 26 Oct 2023 at 9.35pm    Login    Register
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I don't think you can put Tyson in the same category as his brother. Tyson is the heavyweight champion of the world, twice now. He earned those belts. He's gone to the reigning champions back yard and taken them from them both times, he's gone into the ring with the biggest knock out artist the division has ever seen and beaten him multiple times. . His brother is all show and no go, he's not good enough to win belts at even European level so is taking the money option. This is just a warm up for usyk, nothing more than that. But one he is being paid an awfully large sum of money for, and it's his job after all. If anyone was offered a huge sum of money to do their usual job, but made a lot easier ,they'd take it.
tazi
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tazi
   Old Thread  #2965 26 Oct 2023 at 9.16pm    Login    Register
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Much better to see Fury sparked out in a sport that he and his family are taking the 9155 out of.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #2964 26 Oct 2023 at 4.19pm    Login    Register
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Another strange one, the man seriously is mental

Why he would want to fight FN is beyond me, great payout but that man can seriously bang, still Fury is slick enough, says he is going to go toe to toe with him lol, I believe him, and that is dangerous
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #2963 26 Oct 2023 at 3.03pm    Login    Register
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Definitely not. Would ruin the fury usyk fight, and that's the one surely everyone wants to see?
tazi
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tazi
   Old Thread  #2962 26 Oct 2023 at 2.36pm    Login    Register
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oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
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   Old Thread  #2961 26 Oct 2023 at 1.47pm    Login    Register
Fury vs Ngannou
so are we all in agreement then ? we are all hoping Ngannou knocks out Fury
scozza
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   Old Thread  #2960 22 Oct 2023 at 8.14am    Login    Register
Well, the main concern for me is where JC goes next, who are the fights. I wish he would be another British world champion but he has some learning to do for me as he steps up. last night he will have learned a lot though. Thought Linares was very good with the footwork, also managed to get his left outside JC right foot for most of the night which in turn, JC struggled to land any really powerful shots, swinging across his body, very wide stance too which didnít help either. Good news he got the decision but I wouldnít say it was as convincing as I would have like to have seen, he needs to get some fights in, but hey ho, up JC
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #2959 21 Oct 2023 at 3.10pm    Login    Register
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Don't think it's much of a test Tbh, Linares is so far past his best it's a bit of a joke imo. Lost his last 3 and is just a name for a jacks record. Should be a very comfortable win, probably on points but possibly late stoppage
scozza
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   Old Thread  #2958 21 Oct 2023 at 2.52pm    Login    Register
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I hope JC boxes his ears off, good test that, dangerous though Linares even though he is at the end of his career
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