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   Old Thread  #202 13 Dec 2015 at 8.54pm    Login    Register
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Well it's finally happened on the small syndicate pool i've been fishing for the past two years.
In the past 2 weeks we have lost 6 Carp to a single Dog otter.
The tally so far to this Verminous menace stands at :-

1x 30lbplus Mirror which we'd watched grow on from low twenties in the last 18 months.
1X Mid 20lb Mirror (last caught by myself at 26lb 6oz)
1x Low 20lb Mirror (last caught by myself 14 months ago at 20lb 2oz...looked around 22-23lb
1x Low 20lb Common that was known as the Grey Common due to its colour
1x High double common around 18lb
1x Mid double Koi

We are pretty convinced that we have lost other fish to mid 20's in the past to the otters as there are a handful that have been on the missing list for the past 12-24 months that used to see the bank on a fairly regular basis.

The sad thing is, due to the pools location is we cannot fence it as it is too close to the canal which runs along the entire length on one bank and has most of the swims on it.
Also the owners care little about the fish as they are "Horsey" people, thus the pool is little more than a pond in the corner of a flooded field that we pay them for the right to fish it on a yearly basis.
The fact that the rights are on a yearly basis doesn't encourage us to fork out for a fence.

It's looking like the future for the place is rather bleak, which is a shame as it's a cracking place to be.
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   Old Thread  #201 8 Oct 2015 at 9.22am    Login    Register
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Everybody can like it or lump it Joss, that's the harsh reality of the situation from now on......... Its a shame for the Canals & Rivers. But there is sweet sod all anyone can do to change it, even if they was allowed to.

Luckily there is a lot of responsible fisheries that are protecting their future – and in doing so protecting the future of the sport, its not all doom & gloom.
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   Old Thread  #200 8 Oct 2015 at 9.03am    Login    Register
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but its a crying shame we should walk away from the water we love and care for...the poor rivers and canals :(
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   Old Thread  #199 8 Oct 2015 at 8.58am    Login    Register
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the waters that simply cant be fenced for varying reasons I really feel for.

If you can't Fence it, its just a total waste of time, money & effort – Walk Away.

I turned down a place on an exclusive “Dead Man's Shoes” Syndicate last year, when asked the reason “You have no fence, the last thing I want is to join, enjoy fishing the place, and then come winter have to start walking the banks/margins looking for Carp Carcases before & after every session, sorry been there and got the T-Shirts”
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   Old Thread  #198 8 Oct 2015 at 8.51am    Login    Register
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im already getting reports of increased otter sightings from waters and worried anglers.
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   Old Thread  #197 8 Oct 2015 at 8.48am    Login    Register
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the waters that simply cant be fenced for varying reasons I really feel for
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   Old Thread  #196 8 Oct 2015 at 8.45am    Login    Register
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With the warm/wet Flood free summer we have had the Otter problem will have increased (Breed) dramatically, but that's nature. Its “Infested” with them here in the Northwest now.

I just can't get my head around the fact that people are still daft enough to throw money into something that's not protected in any way, its just stupidity of the first degree!

In fact I would class it as Animal Cruelty.
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   Old Thread  #195 8 Oct 2015 at 8.37am    Login    Register
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and we are approaching the time where otter activity will increase sharply !

If a water isn't will be predated upon at some stage

the more waters that are being fenced, the more the otters food source we are shrinking for them..otters are purely driven by fenced waters, the otter will move to an un fenced water...its that simple
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   Old Thread  #194 8 Oct 2015 at 7.38am    Login    Register
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The message just does not seem to be getting through thou Joss – to fishery owners and Anglers. There is still people happy to set up a “New Carp Syndicate” and ask prospective members to Invest there hard earned money into this “One for the future”
The worrying thing is people are not even asking what has now become the most important question bar none “ Will the water be fully Otter fenced?”

They still after all the documented evidence/photos showing what a futile waste of time and money stocking anything without a Fence has now become, keep doing it!

It's Utter madness. Its like taking your money to the Bank for safe keeping, and the Bank then every night piles every body’s hard earned dosh on a large table outside in the street.
And then still expects it to still be sat there every morning!
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   Old Thread  #193 2 Oct 2015 at 9.44am    Login    Register
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The eat anything and everything given the chance and the availability of food
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   Old Thread  #192 2 Oct 2015 at 8.16am    Login    Register
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Pretty sure they will take any fish - but they do have their preferences
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   Old Thread  #191 21 Jul 2015 at 7.20pm    Login    Register
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in your opinion do otters leave bream alone thanks
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   Old Thread  #190 21 Feb 2015 at 7.28pm    Login    Register
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dependant of stock, size of lake if you have a transient or resident otter....not long..

for lake

2.5 acres....34 otter (caught on trail camera)

night 1 = 2 x carp, 21 and 28

night 3 = 1 x 25

night 7 = 1 x 19 + 1 x 22

night 8 = 2 x doubles

night 14 = 23lb'er
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   Old Thread  #189 20 Feb 2015 at 10.42pm    Login    Register
I turned up at a local 14th century mill pool today with carp in mind never fished it nor do I know anyone who has, one thing I do know I found a lot of big scales on the bank which tells me an otter has had carp out of this lake, these are the scales of a 20lb fish I have no doubt. What worriws me is am I now fishing a lake that has no carp in it? how quickly can these things destroy fish stocks?
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   Old Thread  #188 24 Jan 2015 at 8.08am    Login    Register
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Very sad mate.
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