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midlandman
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   Old Thread  #242 29 Dec 2016 at 8.29pm    Login    Register
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I saw a picture if that fantastic Northern common that Simon crow recently had at 39lb. A fish estimated to be 50 years old. Now dead, savaged by otters. Very sad.
Defiant.one
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Defiant.one
   Old Thread  #241 14 Dec 2016 at 9.30pm    Login    Register
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Well it's two weeks before Xmas, and as every year since 2012 , it's kicking off as always - I been sent photo's of fresh Otter Kills just today



Every year about now this thread goes into melt down, has it started all over the UK?
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #240 1 Jun 2016 at 2.19pm    Login    Register
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more than happy to help where I can
Badangler41
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   Old Thread  #239 1 Jun 2016 at 2.12pm    Login    Register
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yes this is all an interesting and scary read,i do really appreciate the time you have spent replying!!
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #238 1 Jun 2016 at 1.41pm    Login    Register
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always here to help if and when i can mate

I may have stopped angling for now, but not my predation commitment
midlandman
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   Old Thread  #237 1 Jun 2016 at 1.36pm    Login    Register
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Thanks as ever for your input Frenzy
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #236 1 Jun 2016 at 9.12am    Login    Register
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I will add....when I had otter problems 3 years running, I shut my lake down until I sorted it, twice I got it wrong, this time I hopefully have got it right...its the first winter in 4 that ive had no probs (touching wood as I type)

I shut it down as I didn't want anymore stress for the fish hooking them etc.

what I did find was that where a coupled of lads were pre baiting a couple of spots, that's where the otter was getting my fish for the obvious reasons ..so I stopped pre baiting during this period also, although, that did give me a pin point as to where the otter was getting in and out of the lake.

Im going to have some VERY important news soon re help, I WILL post it up soon as I can!!!!
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #235 1 Jun 2016 at 9.05am    Login    Register
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Generally, you find the carp very "pacey", un settled, irritable.

They will almost stop feeding dependant on the amount of otter predation.

You will find, if the mother has cubs, that the fish will have damaged fins and tails as the mother injures its prey for the cubs, this will end up either killing the fish due to bacterial infection, or they will lay up stressed and just die if not eaten.

Its not a pretty picture nor thoughts of what predation of large fish can be, but its factual

Summer months, you will find the otter quite happy eating smaller silver fish and tend to leave the larger fish alone until winter when carp especially go very lethargic.

hope that helps
Badangler41
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   Old Thread  #234 31 May 2016 at 5.36pm    Login    Register
Hi , im fishing a large water with a small head of carp and now a small head of otters!

I would like to know how the carp have reacted to otters on other lakes!

Have they changed there feeding areas or there feeding patterns?
Seems like the worst spring for bites for a long while and wondered if its down to the otters? haven't seen any possibility of fish fatalities yet!

MattH85
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   Old Thread  #233 22 May 2016 at 10.48am    Login    Register
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i agree,looks like its been grabbed by an enthusiastic pike and got infected, as the scales are missing from the back in the right shape. Was the other side the same how bigs the fish?
If the lake doesn't have a fence though its only a matter of time
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #232 22 May 2016 at 10.42am    Login    Register
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i doubt thats an otter bite mate, it certianly doesnt look like one to me
Skear
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   Old Thread  #231 22 May 2016 at 10.20am    Login    Register
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Looks like it's an old wound opened up by being dragged through a snag?

midlandman
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   Old Thread  #230 21 May 2016 at 11.38pm    Login    Register
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Yes, you may be right. It could be a bacterial infection.
capt_swearword
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   Old Thread  #229 21 May 2016 at 10.26pm    Login    Register
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A wound like that would be a couple of weeks old, I would be surprised if its spawning damage. If it was a fish of a couple of pounds I would say it was heron damage. Its probably a bad infection, if its a healthy fish it should heal ok
midlandman
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   Old Thread  #228 21 May 2016 at 10.16pm    Login    Register
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Probably a spawning injury. The would will heal quicker than you might think and will simply be a 'bald patch' before too long.
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