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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #162 13 Mar 2014 at 4.42pm    Login    Register
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that was natural Englands figures so you could double that
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   Old Thread  #161 12 Mar 2014 at 6.25pm    Login    Register
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So if those number estimates are true that's only one Otter per 5 square miles , hardly a figure of epic proportions .............
Take the 425 away that have been found dead on the road and that gives one at just under 5.5 square miles .
That's only England mind you , I can only imagine that Otter figure makes up the total for the British Isles as a whole so the square miles per otter would be considerably more
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   Old Thread  #160 12 Mar 2014 at 9.59am    Login    Register
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a sad but truth fact

fence or get your fish stocks killed

edited as I swore like I had a bought or turrets...!!!



KenTownley
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   Old Thread  #159 12 Mar 2014 at 9.13am    Login    Register
From Adam's report included in The Big Picture report detailing otter predation on Cornwall:

"Who is to blame? The Tamar Otter Sanctuary, Cornwall Wildlife Trusts and the private do-gooders with their own agenda and release programmes.

There are now so many dog otters in my area that they are fighting for territory, a fact that the Cornish
Wildlife Trust admits to. They have been released into areas where, in the past, they never even existed. Itís a totally man- made problem. These people should be made to pay for all the damage to the ecosystems that they have destroyed by overt reintroduction of an apex predator with no natural enemies.

I will stand by what I have written. There is no future whatsoever for Cornish/Devon coarse angling unless the fishery
is prepared to fence the venue, hence my saying Ďno fence no fish`. I go to sleep thinking about what has and is happening and wake up after a disturbed night still thinking about it. Thatís not good, and it has been going on for the last 20 years


.Link to the full report.

And some of you wonder why I have been fishing predominantly in France for the past 20 years

NO FENCE? NO FISH!
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #158 12 Mar 2014 at 7.54am    Login    Register
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there is an estimated 10,000 otters in the country
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   Old Thread  #157 11 Mar 2014 at 7.09pm    Login    Register
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Just about finished "The Big Picture" which you can read from the PAG website. So many shocking stories backed up with facts and figures.

"Approximately 425 dead otters found in England between 2007-9" is astounding

. How many of the things are there alive right now? I just cannot comprehend how so many carpers do not see how vital it is to help our sport. Join the Angling Trust, keep asking your club or syndicate when it will fence and take pictures of any mutilated fish you find
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #156 5 Mar 2014 at 3.03pm    Login    Register
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Gutted for you and the syndicate..

do you have and photos of the fish kills
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   Old Thread  #155 3 Mar 2014 at 7.31pm    Login    Register
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Well, that's me looking for a new venue to fish this year, having read about the otter damage to my current one (Winto's /Sand pit, Leicester) in the Venues UK forum on here.
It will be interesting to see what it says in the renewal letter
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   Old Thread  #154 20 Feb 2014 at 7.18pm    Login    Register
Signed!!
wandle1
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   Old Thread  #153 18 Feb 2014 at 10.33pm    Login    Register
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Wow that`s amazing footage...very very good visual evidence indeed.........

Here`s a small tale ,short of a long..............Me finds mint single figure common dead in margin,no predation marks ,nothing.....but fish dead...picks up dead common ,puts common into leaf fall directly behind me and my gear..couple of mins later I look around ,no dead fish ?.......looks upstream ,sure enough otter seen carrying common in direction of it`s holt and river kill platform.................

I will never forget it........
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #152 18 Feb 2014 at 10.09pm    Login    Register
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yes mate
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   Old Thread  #151 18 Feb 2014 at 9.49pm    Login    Register
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Is that on your lake joss
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   Old Thread  #150 18 Feb 2014 at 9.47pm    Login    Register
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more than once...ill post some more up soon
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   Old Thread  #149 18 Feb 2014 at 9.46pm    Login    Register
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DP
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   Old Thread  #148 18 Feb 2014 at 9.37pm    Login    Register
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So they do go back to old carcasses then?
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