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Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #140 14 Mar 2012 at 10.45am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #139
As he said Meggablend is perfect
WATERWOLF
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WATERWOLF
   Old Thread  #139 14 Mar 2012 at 10.27am    Login    Register
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Egg based bird food like CeDe

Which CC Moores ingredient fits the bill perfectly



i would of said the meggablend


or you could use EMP birdfood its available in 1kg,5kg or 25kg bags ive only ever seen CEDE in 1 kg boxes
lewis1987
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lewis1987
   Old Thread  #138 14 Mar 2012 at 10.26am    Login    Register
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I'm gonna just get cede off the net
2ndChance
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   Old Thread  #137 14 Mar 2012 at 10.21am    Login    Register
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Egg based bird food like CeDe

Which CC Moores ingredient fits the bill perfectly ?
SamBarley
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   Old Thread  #136 13 Mar 2012 at 2.06pm    Login    Register
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I think the blood powder is too soluble to count the aminos anyway (will disipate by the time the carp ingest the bait)

I'm not making the mix smurf, just stating what I would have done
Thanks for your opinion though

I have made your bait before and it caught very well, I'm on my own venture now though!
smirker
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   Old Thread  #135 13 Mar 2012 at 1.50pm    Login    Register
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Fair enough, I see what you are saying. If it was me and hitting 1 kilo mattered I would knock .5% off the cede and add 2.5% Brewers Yeast which I would have thought would further enhance the mix by adding more soluble attraction. Smurf, your views?
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #134 13 Mar 2012 at 1.28pm    Login    Register
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about the 'missing' 2.5%.

If it was me, and for the batch size I make these days, I would convert the % to grams by multiplying it by 30 e.g.

BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal = 600 grams
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60) = 300 grams
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe = 260 grams
10% Semolina = 200 grams
10% Soya flour (heat treated) = 200 grams
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal = 170 grams
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo = 170 grams
2.5% Selenavite E = 50 grams

That could give me enough to make a 10 eggs mix plus a coupe of different hookbaits mixes (cork balls, extra flavour etc) and some paste
Chuffy
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Chuffy
   Old Thread  #133 13 Mar 2012 at 1.02pm    Login    Register
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Seeing as Ken says it's already a perfect mix, I don't really want to add anything to it though, just juggle what's already there.
smirker
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   Old Thread  #132 13 Mar 2012 at 12.58pm    Login    Register
As to the missing 2.5%....a good natural additive or two will help give out a little more attraction

@ Chuffy, think he already did!
Chuffy
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   Old Thread  #131 13 Mar 2012 at 12.45pm    Login    Register
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While your there Smurf, getting back to my original query.....

So, if I use Selenevite at 2.5%, which of the other ingredients would you increase to make up the missing 2.5%?
Smurf
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Smurf
   Old Thread  #130 13 Mar 2012 at 12.26pm    Login    Register
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Some blood powders are not very digestable so don't count on it for any amino acid content, having said that the mix is good enough anyway

Try wheat germ if you want but it can make a soft bait even softer (althoug the blood powder should help with that) so don't buy a sack load without making a test mix

Betaine
Salt fishmeals are already quite salty
Chilli again though try a test mix or two, impossible to recomend levels as different suppliers provide different chilli products.
Salmon oil keep levels sensible 20-30ml per Kg of base mix should be plenty

Amongst its properties salt is a palatant Don't think you will need any more but you could change some of your salt from above for MSG (which is also a salt, just a different type).

Has that helped or just added to the confusion
smirker
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   Old Thread  #129 13 Mar 2012 at 0.15am    Login    Register
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Sounds good too, whatever your favourite options are. I like GLM too but it costs more than Belachan
mattbizzle
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mattbizzle
   Old Thread  #128 12 Mar 2012 at 7.08pm    Login    Register
that will be the base mix of the coming year, will let you know how i get on!!!
lewis1987
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   Old Thread  #127 12 Mar 2012 at 1.22pm    Login    Register
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How about 50/50 shellfish Concentrate and mussel extract
smirker
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   Old Thread  #126 12 Mar 2012 at 11.30am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #122
Belachan and/or L030. Go natural, although having said that Monster Crab and Shellfish at low levels takes some beating in a fishmeal. Sorry to contradict myself but those two together have caught me the Lions share of my fish (with a good base mix of course)
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