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In reply to Post #219
instead of using red venom as the kick could i use a chilli powder or robin red at all and just up the minamino to around 50ml.
i was also considering adding a bit of grated belachan paste although i think i might be over complicating things.
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In reply to Post #218
Can't help with the Red Venom, i've never used it.
30ml of Minamino sounds like a good start. Got a feeling you may be able to up that a bit. I dont think i'd go any lower with it TBH.
I like the 'Good Oil' at 20ml per kilo. It is the best hemp oil going IMO.
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In reply to Post #217
i worked it out at about 5 quid a kilo if i use 30 ml of both minamino and red venom. the hemp oil is the good oil stuff from tesco.
was just wondering really if 30ml of each would be enough. i have used minamino in baits before and its fantastic stuff. the red venom is down to the fact i prefer having a good kick of chilli in there aswell
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In reply to Post #216
minamino and red venom from cc moores
Not looking for a cheap bait then? 
Why not keep the Hemp oil at 20-25ml/kg, and add some CSL again 20-25ml/kg from AA Baits
£10 for liquids that will do 20kg of basemix, and it'll still be as good as it can be.
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can any one recommend inclusion rates for oil and liquid additives.
im thinking about using hemp oil minamino and red venom from cc moores
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In reply to Post #214
Only the base mix. For now. 
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In reply to Post #213
Horrible but functional
That's what I use
Your mixing by hand  good luck
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In reply to Post #212
Horrible stuff that brown blood powder. I think i may have some of that in the shed. Its all a little irrelevent at the min, as i have lost my base mix mixer. I was mixing base 10 or 20kg a time in a brand new concrete mixer my mate (builder) had in his shed as a spare. But his old one broke, so now hes using the one i was using.
Its gonna be hard mixing base in a big bucket after using that mixer. Nothing mixes base mix ingredients like a concrete mixer. 
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In reply to Post #211
No I mean the standard blood powder, it will sort out your flaa as well, not sure how much of a problem you are having but looking at your mix you shouldn't be having lots of trouble
Are you using lots of liquids?
Maybe try wpc80 too, bare in mind both of these products are very solubole
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In reply to Post #210
Why, do you think blood powder alone will be enough to bind the mix im already struggling with plus the extra limestone flour? The white plasma powder i assume you mean? Does it bind that well? Ill see if i can get hold of some. Cheers.
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In reply to Post #209
Use some blood powder, pop some lime stone flour in to gain distance in a stick
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In reply to Post #206
Am i doing something wrong with BM2? It seems dry and splits easily between light finger pressure when its rolled and boilied. Must admit it rolls like a champ. For the distance im fishing at the moment it needs to be harder and bound tighter. Would either egg albumen, whey gel, blood plasma do the trick without compromising the nutrional value to much? Which one would you use?
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In reply to Post #207
yes the mix below is a 2kg mix,i was just thinking on the costs of adding more
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In reply to Post #205
Are you trying to make 2/20kg with them levels your using?
Are you going to be using 25g (2.5%) per kilo? that seems a little low to me for the GLM. The more the better IMHO.
I always found 5%+ to be a good level to start at. I think in this quite strong smelling mix, 5% would be better to get the smell to come through.
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In reply to Post #201
Thats how I used to roll it but you would be amazed how different people have slightly different technics that mean some use 9 eggs when others would squeeze in another
As Ken says start with 9 eggs, add any liquids and weigh your base mix before and after to find out how much you actually use....if you like the end baits keep making them the same way
And GLM goes very well with this mix....as do many fruit or sweet (cream, chocolate etc) flavors 
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