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   Old Thread  #1000 26 Mar 2011 at 4.00pm  0  Login    Register
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Please familiarise yourself with these facts!.
Weil's disease can be carried in water contaminated with rats' urine.

Weil's disease,is the acute human form of a bacterial infection with a raft of different names: mud fever, swamp fever, haemorrhagic jaundice, swineherd's disease, sewerman's flu. All are known as Leptospirosis, mild cases of which affect millions of people every year worldwide.

The infection is caught through contact with infected animal urine (mainly from rodents, cattle or pigs), generally in contaminated water, and typically enters the body through cuts or scrapes, or the lining of the nose, mouth, throat or eyes. Only a very few patients experience the severe, life-threatening illness known as Weil's disease, thought to kill two or three people a year in Britain.

After an incubation period that can vary from three days to three weeks, most patients suffer severe headaches, red eyes, muscle pains, fatigue, nausea and a temperature of 39C or above. In roughly a third of cases there is a skin rash; sometimes hallucinations.

In very severe cases, symptoms include haemorrhaging from the mouth, eyes and internally. There is significant and rapid organ damage: liver and kidney failure can occur within 10 days, leading to jaundice (these are the only cases that can properly be called Weil's disease). Hospitalisation, followed by antibiotics and often dialysis, will be required if the patient is to survive. Recovery can take months.

According to British Rowing, the risk of contracting Weil's disease from recreational water in the UK is "very small". Infection is logically more likely in slow-moving or stagnant water and areas where agriculture and rodents mix; lakes, ponds and canals are more likely to be contaminated than fast-running streams, although some activities – angling, for example, where minor cuts and nicks are common, and swimming, where some water will almost inevitably enter the mouth – could heighten exposure.

Anglers,Rowers and canoeists should cover all cuts and abrasions; avoid splashing themselves, or swallowing potentially contaminated water; wash their hands carefully and if possible shower afterwards; and wash all equipment and clothing regularly. Anyone experiencing flu-like symptoms after contact with fresh water should see their doctor immediately.
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   Old Thread  #1000 28 Mar 2011 at 9.13pm  0  Login    Register
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Taken from medical texts....
Symptoms develop normally from 7 to 14 days after contact with the infection but they can develop in as little as three days or as long as 30 days

First Phase
The disease hits people suddenly, starting with flu like symptoms including muscle pain, nausea and a fever higher than 102 degrees F. Severe headaches also accompany the first phase, hitting suddenly with the pressure and pain of a migraine. In about one-third of all leptospirosis, the individual infected will develop a rash. This rash is similar in appearance to that which is caused by meningitis. It will appear red with a series of pin*****ed-shaped valleys.
The bacteria is alive in the bloodstream during this time period. In mild cases, the disease will be fought by white blood cells and kept at bay. In severe cases, the blood-borne bacteria could cause the body to go into septic shock.
The first phase will often last 3 to 5 days.
Second Phase
The second window of the disease does not open in mild cases. Typically restricted to moderate to severe cases of leptospirosis, a second phase will usually manifest itself after 2 to 3 days of apparent recovery. This second stage is usually more aggressive, with the return of the fever, headache and muscle pain, as well as pain in the upper torso and additional symptoms that mimic meningitis--neck stiffness, vomiting and kidney issues.
Mild cases will clear up completely in 3 to 5 weeks.
Signs of Severity
In more serious cases, people with leptospirosis can expect severe, and oftentimes, fatal, organ trauma. Jaundice will onset, indicative of liver and kidney failure. The bacteria will also cause infections in the heart and cause massive internal bleeding.
Individuals in poor health will see the disease onset and progress much quicker, with death an almost certainty.
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   Old Thread  #146 15 Feb 2022 at 5.25am  0  Login    Register
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Hey all, Which tub of wipes or gel should i be buying to try and reduce this risk of catching weils ?
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   Old Thread  #145 7 Jan 2022 at 5.11pm  0  Login    Register
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Cheers mate, I'll definitely be getting the dettol ones. I know what you mean about accepting a brew from someone who's just been shaking hands with the unemployed. 🤣 you literally pray for a bleep on the alarms so when you spring up you can deliberately kick the cuppa over and not have to drink the bloody thing.
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   Old Thread  #144 7 Jan 2022 at 12.20pm  0  Login    Register
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I also do this. I use the wipes to clean off the pans between meals ( I do a week at a time). I use the Dettol type disinfectant ones. It doesn’t leave any taste behind. I also use them to wipe my hands after going for a wazz or to the portaloo.

I’ve also had a people comment that when I’ve made them a brew they were pleased to see me wipe my hands and another wipe for the cup. The amount of times you are made a brew by someone who’s had their dick in their hand having a wazz just before doesn’t bear thinking about.

90 odd pence for a big bag full in the supermarkets makes it a no brainier 👍
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   Old Thread  #143 6 Jan 2022 at 12.32pm  1  Login    Register
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Just your bog standard wet wipes mate so I don't get all the crap in my bags/cases.
You do the real clean when you get home.

Hope your health is good/getting better
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   Old Thread  #142 6 Jan 2022 at 12.26pm  0  Login    Register
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Cheers CAM. You're probably right. Are the wipes that you use just normal off the shelf types or is there a particular one that works better considering most are for just cleaning the skin or light spills on kitchen surfaces.

I was rushed into hospital last Christmas morning with Covid pneumonia and two large blood clots on my lungs. Was told if the wife hadn't forced me to get up for the kids that morning that she would have found me a gonner later that day. She's forever nagging at me to hand sanitise (she's an ex nurse) but it's not something I naturally think of doing.
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   Old Thread  #141 6 Jan 2022 at 12.19pm  0  Login    Register
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IMO, I wouldn't take the risk tbh.
I just use some wet wipes and then give them a proper clean when I get home.
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   Old Thread  #140 6 Jan 2022 at 12.15pm  0  Login    Register
Just wondering about weils disease. After finishing with my pots, pans etc, was thinking if boiling some lake water in the used pan to assist in washing up the pans. Do you think this is also not safe. I was hoping that the boiling of the water would mean that there would be no contamination and therefore be safe to wash up with.
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   Old Thread  #139 14 Aug 2019 at 2.48pm  0  Login    Register
That's really bad advise you clearly have no idea
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   Old Thread  #138 14 Aug 2019 at 10.31am  0  Login    Register
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Utter rubbish. Your piss poor advice is now threatening people's lives. Bang out of order
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   Old Thread  #137 14 Aug 2019 at 7.48am  0  Login    Register
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   Old Thread  #136 4 Feb 2019 at 5.01am  0  Login    Register
Hello, Can you please suggest me which company provides rat control services?
Actually, the reason is that this service needed by my house so, please suggest company details with services details share with me.
Thanks in advance!
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   Old Thread  #135 31 Jan 2019 at 9.27am  0  Login    Register
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A couple of years ago I was in hospital with a very serious infection in my Gall bladder, I had to go into a CT Scanner where a surgeon put a drain pipe into my bladder which was left in for 4 weeks, I was then cut open to remove my bladder, a couple of weeks later I was back in hospital with a Liver infection, I remember as if it was a few minutes ago, the Doctor asked me if I had been in contact with Rats, I had to tell him I go Fishing, I was scared to death having remembered what happened to Ken, my blood was sent to the lab for a Micro Biology. it seemed to take an age before the results came back, I was clear of Weills disease, I had received Liver damage when I had my Gall bladder removed, I have never liked rats and I like them even less now, I carry a small air pistol(where allowed) and have potted a few but I never leave bait out, I have also become hand wash mad, I have always got 3/4 bottles of hand gel and also carry a bottle of anti-bacterial wash with me and clean my hands after everything I touch.
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   Old Thread  #134 30 Jan 2019 at 7.11am  0  Login    Register
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Odd, isn't it! A guy from Australian using a forum name of a past US president, spamming an as yet unnamed rat/pest control service.
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