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   Old Thread  #216 10 Sept 2010 at 11.59am    Login    Register
In reply to Post #214
Thought this could do with a Bump and heres some links to the hand cleaner Ken uses

Desderman Gel 50ml

Desderman Gel 150ml

Desderman N Hand Disinfectant Gel 1lit
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   Old Thread  #215 7 Apr 2010 at 11.49am    Login    Register
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I think any question on this subject can never be thought of as silly. The more people who ask, the more information will be out there
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   Old Thread  #214 7 Apr 2010 at 7.18am    Login    Register
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No. It is not thought to be transferable.
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   Old Thread  #213 6 Apr 2010 at 7.24pm    Login    Register
KEN.. or any of the others on this subject... Without sounding silly is WEILS transferrable between people?
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   Old Thread  #212 6 Apr 2010 at 9.53am    Login    Register
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So sorry to hear that, Gerry.

Unfortunately the medical profession can only go by the symptoms that present themselves when deciding on a course of treatment. The fact is that Weils presents exactly the same initial symptoms as flu and unless the patient draws to the doctor's attention the fact that he may have been exposed to Weils Disease, then the doctor will in all probability treat the patient for flu.

Our own doctor has a copy of the notification shown in post 104 on our records, and we also carry a similar laminated notice in our wallets and our fishing gear. In addition we carry the same notification in French (as per Luke's post in number 106).

The anti bacterial gel is the same stuff that is used in hospitals (see post 64). It can be obtained by a friendly chemist from the address given.

As for myself, Lee, well I don't think I have ever recovered my full health since catching it in 2005, but I am one of the lucky ones who survived.
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   Old Thread  #211 6 Apr 2010 at 0.48am    Login    Register
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Glad you bumped this thread up my one of my pals fishing partner died when they treated him for Flu think it was after he was dead they found out what it was
SCAR may have more details ?
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   Old Thread  #210 6 Apr 2010 at 0.38am    Login    Register
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How you doing now Ken?
This has opened my eyes to the dangers of this disease and more should be done to inform ALL anglers of the dangers.

Abit off topic but 6 month ago yesterday, i was bit by a contaminated Mosquito in Florida whilst on one of them air boats on a lake looking for Aligators with my kids, within a week of being home i was seriously ill in hospital with a Brain Virus and our Dr's never had a clue what was wrong with me until the M.O.D returned my blood results.
Its taken nearly 6 month to get back to my old self and even now i still have a few bad days.
We all have to becarefull.
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   Old Thread  #209 7 Sept 2009 at 11.07pm    Login    Register
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This has opened my eyes. Will be approaching things differently now. Why do people who win Fish O Mania always jump in the water at the end. I have just got back from France and was in the water for some pics and to land fish. Glad i have come across this as my knowledge was not up to scratch in this particular area.
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   Old Thread  #208 4 Sept 2009 at 9.17pm    Login    Register
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So am i right in saying all anti bacteria wipes are strong enough to kill weils disease ?i see in a earlier post that someone uses baby wipes are these strong enough to be effective ?
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   Old Thread  #207 3 Sept 2009 at 11.47pm    Login    Register
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I've always done this as a matter of course over the years and thought it must kill all the nasty bugs that are lying around waiting to infect.
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   Old Thread  #206 3 Sept 2009 at 11.06pm    Login    Register
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using boiling water should kill off any nastys that maybe lurking
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   Old Thread  #205 3 Sept 2009 at 10.57pm    Login    Register
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Sorry to revive an old thread........

Do you think boiling water helps against Weils Disease ?

That is, using it to wash pans ect........
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   Old Thread  #204 18 May 2009 at 9.51pm    Login    Register
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As for the card info thing this is the exact info the EA should have put on the back of the new license this year.

If anyone from the EA is on here please take note and include it next year ( also make the card a reuasble real plastic card that you top up at the posty each year - Smart card style this would cut the need to re supply cards each year )

Spot on post Ken good to bring it to the forfront of anglers minds. The hand gels ae available all over the place these dys and dirt cheap no excuse for not having a bottle or two in your tackle. I have carried at least one on all sessions for the last few years.
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   Old Thread  #203 18 May 2009 at 9.07pm    Login    Register
why do people kiss fish FFS if you put somthing to your mouth out of a rat infested water you deserve to catch weils disease....
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   Old Thread  #202 14 Mar 2009 at 11.01pm    Login    Register
I know that I'm guilty in the past for Kissing fish after capture, and even tried before netting them (different story), but I carry an Antibacterial Gel I got from a Builders Equipment Supplier, to try to reduce the risks. Comes in handy for a couple of reasons. Working as a Store Detective, some of the scroats who we stopped were filthy (and I mean Disgusting), and it does also Kill the Weils disease bacteria.

All food is bagged and Pans etc are never left out out.
I've even got to the stage that my Baccy and Ciggie Papers are kept in the pocket of my combats rather than being left on my Tackle Box

I know that if I do ever get a Flu or Bad Cold I go straight to my Doctors or Local Emergency Clinic and explain the risks of Leptospirosis. Just about the first thing they always do is stick you on a 10 day course of Antibiotics, as opposed to the usual 7day and give you strict warnings that if any symptoms become worse to get back there or to A&E. Thank Goodness I have only ever had to go to A&E once when the flu progressed to a severe Headache. The nurses weren't too happy as they thought I was pulling a fast one, but once explained and they checked in the Big Black Book in the Nurses station were damn happy to keep me in for a nights observation.

Weils disease can be spread by many other rodents and animals, not just Rats.
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