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RKB
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   Old Thread  #22 14 Nov 2023 at 3.10pm  0  Login    Register
Apart from weight (negligible) what specific benefits does a 30mm butt ring have over a 40mm ring?
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #21 14 Nov 2023 at 3.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
There's no such thing as a stuid question mate
Zack and wandle pretty much sum it up.

If you go to a specialist rod builder (I went to Mark Tunley for my Barbel rods for example as he has a lot of river experience) when you start talking blanks you'll be given options you probably don't know about if coming from generic factory built rods. For example most Carp rods are rung with a 40mm butt which is complete overkill for a lower TC rod and most are rung with only 1 on the butt, whereas you migh be advised for 2 for a river rod and more up top.

There are all sorts of technical arguments for more or less ringing and there are some very knowledgeable builders and anglers on the forum who could give you that detail, if it interests you or you could contact a specialist builder for a natter. I don't think it makes a jot of difference to the fish but if your so inclined it's a interesting subject


wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #20 14 Nov 2023 at 12.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
Your right about ringing configurations, I have 9 eyes ,30mm being the largest ,..on the Armalites, and 6 on the freespirits ..
Zack
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   Old Thread  #19 14 Nov 2023 at 11.39am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
>>>This is where I'm probably going to sound a little stupid, but can you explain the difference in the way the rings are set differently for carp fishing please?<<<

There is no specific way for how a rod should be rung for any type of fishing. The trend these days for carp fishing is just about 5 or 6 large eyes with a very large butt eye, all designed for distance casting.

But years ago, it was the traditional style ringing like you would find on any rod and still do, lots of eyes, it just seems carp fishing has changed and its presumed everyone wants to cast baits as far as they can, but, even so, a traditional rung carp rod will still easily hit 100 yards, so basically, carp rods have become a specialist tool for hitting big distances and most people do not fish long distance, but the industry seems to have forgot about those people who only fish close in and up to and around 100 yards and manufacture traditional rung rods for the run of the mill carp angler

Myself I use 3 pike rods through action 3lb test curve traditionally rung and they are a delight to use for carp fishing, they have a very soft action designed for casting soft baits long distances, brilliant for playing fish as the rod arcs over nicely but plenty of power in the butt to stop fish dead in the tracks, because of the soft action I have never had a hook pull from an angry carp close in when it bolts from the net and most importantly I find, they are not tip heavy due to all the small eyes on it, unlike the "Beachcasters" with large eyes so a pleasure to stand holding for long periods of time when stalking.

I think about the only way these days to get a set of traditional rung rods is custom built or go outside the box and buy, Avon rods, Barbel rods or pike rods etc. But, many years ago, a rod could be used for many disciplines so long as they was strong enough for the task and not too strong, for example what was called a Avon rod was used for Roach, Chub Barbel etc and my carp rods not just covered carp fishing, but also eel fishing, pike fishing and even light sea fishing etc

The 80's, my main car rods were only 1 3/4 TC traditionally rung and could handle fish up to 25lb easily in open water with no snags, but, I could use them also for barbel, tench, eels etc and to this day, still use them for that purpose

But then, manufactures decided to give rods names based on what fish the angler was fishing but basically the rod was the same and can be used for anything you fish for.

wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #18 14 Nov 2023 at 11.23am  1  Login    Register
Freespirit CTX, in 2.5 tc are fabulous players rods..they play carp really well ,and are a joy ,a lovely rod.

But....Armalites ,in low test curves take some beating for enjoyment. And are my personal choice now..
Carew
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Carew
   Old Thread  #17 14 Nov 2023 at 10.05am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Good decision. I have the same rods, they are a pleasure to use
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #16 14 Nov 2023 at 8.44am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
This is where I'm probably going to sound a little stupid, but can you explain the difference in the way the rings are set differently for carp fishing please?
vossy1
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vossy1
   Old Thread  #15 14 Nov 2023 at 5.45am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
I think you'll love them, Harrison make some cracking rods. Like Belch, my lower tc Torrix are rung for Barbel but it was always my intention to use them for lighter Carp work too.
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #14 14 Nov 2023 at 2.56am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #13
you can never go wrong buying Harrison rods you bought well
the latest linky poo
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #13 13 Nov 2023 at 9.53pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Sorry I didn't get it at first.
I thought I'd f**ked up with buying the Harrison rods .... phew
The_Andyman
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The_Andyman
   Old Thread  #12 13 Nov 2023 at 9.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
If you was actually replying to Zack instead of your own post, he was taking the P as you typed barbell like the weight lifting bars....... Just a joke
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #11 13 Nov 2023 at 8.51pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Sorry I'm confused by your comment. What are you trying to say, the Harrison Torrix 2lb is a hard rod to bend?
Zack
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   Old Thread  #10 13 Nov 2023 at 10.41am  0  Login    Register
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>>>>>buying a barbell rod for carp fishing.<<<<<

Wow that's a bit extreme, that would need something like the QE2 to put a good bend in it, 6' of steel capable of lifting 320kg and just putting a slight bend in it.

What are your usual "Rods"?
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #9 12 Nov 2023 at 8.09pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
So I've just bought a used Harrison Torrix 2lb 12ft ... lets hope it meets my needs

In fact, it came as a pair so I paid way more than I initially thought
StevieB90
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StevieB90
   Old Thread  #8 10 Nov 2023 at 6.22pm  0  Login    Register
Thanks Guys!
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