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Mattsaunders
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   Old Thread  #674 18 Jul 2022 at 7.43pm  0  Login    Register
Just ordered some pineapple wafters and krill and cal wafters 😋
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #673 17 Jul 2022 at 2.29pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #672
I managed to get out last night for 12 hours of angling and I have to say it was actually quite enjoyable!
In typical summer fashion the carp fed in the darkness and up to about 9 am this morning. A scattering of 20mm herb and matching Wafters or deep c Wafters made sure I didn’t get much sleep! Biggest fish was a known common of upper 20s (forgot my scales)
If you go out angling this week then I’d say bait lightly and make the most of the darkness! Roll on next weekend when it’s a little bit cooler
Frenzy
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Frenzy
   Old Thread  #672 15 Jul 2022 at 4.06pm  0  Login    Register
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Hang in there mate....im sure you will be fine
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #671 15 Jul 2022 at 12.00pm  3  Login    Register
In reply to Post #670
Let’s just say it has been a bit of a mission to get away from the common pellets but I have some samples that are different gravy.
The supply line is an issue but I’m working on it and it’s going well!
BRB
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BRB
   Old Thread  #670 14 Jul 2022 at 9.08pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #669
Cold pressed?
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #669 14 Jul 2022 at 9.02pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #665
Have you got something special coming
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #668 14 Jul 2022 at 10.17am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #666
Putin is clearly a tigernut man.

As long as they are fresh ones with a date and batch number label.

Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #667 14 Jul 2022 at 7.56am  0  Login    Register
sorry to rant Gav
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #666 14 Jul 2022 at 7.56am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #662
cereal based? only a few and it leads back to the sustainability argument to be fair.

I mean for example, semolina, soya flour etc are in high demand as well as maize meal in third world countries via charities, Im sure to some seeing it go into baits ( never mind fishmeal) would be appalling.

But there is a glut of decent pellets in the UK now especially as two french companies have now invested, namely aller aqua and le goussant. although to be fair the guy who sells the la guossant also sells cereals lol. you can get it cheaper direct in france and ship it over.

as most would say, smaller levels of quality is key.


BUT when it comes to boilies that in of itself is still a problem for smaller producers, its all well and good upping prices but if you sell less and less it can start to be a problem.

To put it simply tonne sacks are cheaper, and to order sacks and keep product fresh you need to sell a lot of it, multiple tonnes a week, and so selling less buy keeping good quality gear can mean with some products buying in multiples of smaller sacks, which cuts down the margin anyway.

so its make 2 quid a kilo and sell ten kilos or make a quid and sell 20 sort of scenario. it totally depends on capacity / storage / labour costs etc as to which one is beneficial.

Ive just had an email from a courier that the fuel surcharge is going from 8 to 12.5% on carriage which basically adds 50 pences to the p and p charge on a 10kg box.

And much like Gav is finding, multiple price increases a day is a new reality. and Im not sure what his forecasts and projections are but after every few price hikes mine become invalid and its more work to figure out what you need to do to make a living, then some more go up and you repeat. plus there also the head ache of not getting long term price assurances from suppliers anymore due to how the world is, and even after THAT, there is also the issue of actually having product to buy. there will be shortages of a LOT more ingredients come summer, and its all wel land good stock piling but if you like fresh ingredients, you're pretty much f*cked.

Putin is clearly a tigernut man.
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #665 14 Jul 2022 at 6.52am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #662
The rubbish pellets…….might be about to change 😉
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #664 14 Jul 2022 at 0.02am  0  Login    Register
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Yep, we can only do so much regarding costs of trade or retails supply chain trends and products, but quality costs.

I can almost see some anglers going back to rolling fresh bait/base mix and 4 to 6 or 12 eggs, on the bank.
Like the good old days.
Make it as you need it, if you have a result and have it off, roll more. Minimal waste, and you know it is quality bait.

Richpp1989
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Richpp1989
   Old Thread  #663 13 Jul 2022 at 9.49pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #662
A lot of places I fish now including my syndicates are banning particle out right now though because of places like monster particle doing stupidly cheap deals for bad quality particle, people turning up pilling loads of it in and it’s ruining the water quality

I’d much rather spend the extra and get some decent boilie and pellet to use instead
midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #662 13 Jul 2022 at 9.38pm  0  Login    Register
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I’m afraid that the majority will be looking for cheap bait at the moment. Of course they will. Most of the anglers that I know who use large quantities are not exactly awash with cash even at the best of times.

Most of the pellets available now are rubbish cereal/soya based crap, it’s no wonder many are using particle.
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #661 13 Jul 2022 at 9.14pm  0  Login    Register
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Absolutely and we know Mike and his products are worth every penny!
bmthman
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bmthman
   Old Thread  #660 13 Jul 2022 at 8.34pm  0  Login    Register
I use Essential Baits B5 and that’s £9.85 a kilo buying 10 kilos at a time. So sensible anglers will realise after location bait is the thing that matters. Not the latest high end rods and reels.
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