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audiguypaul
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audiguypaul
   Old Thread  #27 9 Jan 2024 at 8.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
Used belechan block in the Pete B mix for years when i made my own, it didn't require any flavour but i always added a bit of Bakers plumb.
Ynnek
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   Old Thread  #26 9 Jan 2024 at 6.18pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Have look if you can find some with higher shrimp content
The higher the better 😅
JackWhitstable
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JackWhitstable
   Old Thread  #25 9 Jan 2024 at 1.55pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Thank you mate, excellent tip.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #24 8 Jan 2024 at 10.00pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
Very good stuff, use a fine grater, grate it into your eggs.
JackWhitstable
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JackWhitstable
   Old Thread  #23 8 Jan 2024 at 9.13pm  0  Login    Register
Has anyone had experience with Belacan paste?

I've recently got a pot, reeks beyond words, smells like a dead rat.

https://singkeefoods.co.uk/gb/tean-s-gourmet/280-tean-s-gourmet-spicy-belacan-paste-tumisan-belcan-pedas-230g-9555144301878.html?https://singkeefoods.co.uk/?utm_source=Google+Ads&utm_medium=PMax&utm_campaign=PMax+%7BFoods%7D+5+Ag+%2F%2F+Search+Themes+%2F%2F+Various+Audiences+%28In-m%2C++Aff%2C+Data%29+%2B+No+Audience+%7C+11+Oct+%2723&gclid=CjwKCAiA1-6sBhAoEiwArqlGPiHPyVRgUWG828Q4i5GuzVvJohLi3_bBW3hXV4kEtPxzBNqcd5SDThoCEccQAvD_BwE
lincs-carper
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   Old Thread  #22 7 Jan 2024 at 9.16pm  1  Login    Register
I've gone down the taste route and as ever it's a total mine field. Looking at t1r1 and t1r2 taste receptors among many many others sheds some light on what each receptor does and is looking for and also the reaction from activating these receptors. Bitter taste can be used to detect toxic elements which therefore fish will avoid when detected. Wheres there are a set of receptors that as we know when L aminos are detected is a signal of a protein food. There's another set of receptors that are of most interest (to me anyway) that can detect smaller elements found in mallards reaction that hold a lot of information to the fish about what it has found. Triggers to tell a fish food is present. If you fancy a lot of research, have a look at T2r receptors.
christian
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   Old Thread  #21 7 Jan 2024 at 2.19pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #20
I think the answer to your first question is probably no, carp and humans have different taste sensations. But there are some sensations that are common through out the animal world. Sugar for instance is a pretty universal taste enhancer.

As for other tastes carp like, it's very much trial and error for me but it does seem that ingredients that are added to our own foods to provide or enhance taste also seem to work for carpas well. The pet food and animal food industries also provide some good starting points.
Ynnek
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   Old Thread  #20 7 Jan 2024 at 10.22am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
The only thing is, do humans observe the same taste sensation as carp?
And how do we know what can be defined as 'a good taste for Caron?
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #19 7 Jan 2024 at 0.52am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
When you are downwind of the kebab shop or the chippy and you suddenly feel like some grub.

With that in mind it's worth remembering just how important some understanding of undertow is when it comes to attracting carp into your swim

On a big windy water I'd often get a small handful of mud and chuck it out a few yards and see if I can see which way the particles drift as they descend
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #18 6 Jan 2024 at 11.40pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
Rod wrote many years ago. If you're tempted to come downstairs for breakfast by the smell of Bacon and Eggs, you're not going to stick around when given toast. I know that's not the exact quote, but basically the same meaning..
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #17 6 Jan 2024 at 11.13pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
That's what it's all about

Some flavour/hydro stuff to attract them to the bait, and some good taste and texture to keep them chomping away.

So many baits areally high flavoured bland balls of bland stuff. Much better to have your bait stand out with some taste.

Garlic, curry, chilli, paprika, fenugreek, marmite, and whatever else takes your fancy.
christian
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   Old Thread  #16 6 Jan 2024 at 4.46pm  4  Login    Register
I think the taste of your bait is the most important aspect of it. Do you eat food you don't like the taste of, do pig farmers use plain pelleted feed or feeds that have added taste. Do dogs prefer treats with added taste enhancers.
If carp like the taste of one bait more than others which ones are they going to eat more of?

Oh and for the record I don't consider liquid flavours great at adding taste, the best ones add short term attraction, but they are gone too quickly to add much taste. There are much better ingredients available to add or improve taste.
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #15 6 Jan 2024 at 0.34am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #14
Agree mate.

The waters Fanny Rougharse talks about have seen every synthetic potion going, sad realy that anglers have to resort to stronger and stronger potions just to outfish the man next door.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #14 6 Jan 2024 at 0.18am  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #13
I'd agree that very low level flavour and natural attraction is better on a water that you visit regularly and can keep some bait going in.

For one off or occasional visits then you can do better with a bit of additional pulling power.
Teddybare
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   Old Thread  #13 6 Jan 2024 at 0.04am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
It doesnt work on every water, less is more on some waters.
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