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In reply to Post #405 Cheers smirker, I'll take a look for that, I guess what I'm looking for are the reasons behind the different additives as there are similar flavours in different styles.
ie. cajousers,elites, oils
Do you need to add the other ingredients like liquid foods or natural attractors and what are there purpose are they required ?
Really just to get a handle on it to give me confidence when I make it.
Like I say I know a lot of its trial and error to which I'm perpared to do.
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In reply to Post #404 Jay Riders E-books on his site (books on carp) well worth a look. Cheaper than buying a hard copy. What do you want to know exactly? Inclusion levels of attractors are on the bottles?
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In reply to Post #77 Do any of you experienced home made boillie makers know of any decent books on the subject ?
I have used nutrabaits base mixes to some success but now I have more time I would like to start experimenting a bit more, what I find most difficult is knowing what size quantities I need to be using of the various oils, cajousers, and elites, none of this info seems that available other than a few recipes on various portals to which I don't want to do the same as.
I know a lot of this is trial and error which I accept but being in the same ball park would be handy.
cheers for any help
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Does anyone know where to get poultry protein meal from? Can't find it on aa baits website.
Could it be replaced with something else?
I've found a meat a bone meal which has 44% protein and 13% oil
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In reply to Post #401 Yes. BM1 can be rolled for about £4 per including eggs etc if you shop around. Maybe less.
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In reply to Post #77 Have you found that it is overall cheaper to make yourself 10kg of boils rather than buying from a company? Thoughts?
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In reply to Post #77 If you are having trouble with the bm1 being too soft for your particular application, I would recommend swapping the soya flour for rice flour or maize flour. This made the necessary difference in a basemix I have used for quite a few years to good effect. 2-3% blood powder seriously firms up the bait (I would think whey gel or blood plasma is comparable). Another simple trick is to sieve the mix for the hookbaits and boil those 30 secs longer than normal. Usually makes them a bit firmer for bit longer.
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In reply to Post #397 300g LT94 fishmeal
150g Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
130g Egg based bird food like CeDe
100g Semolina
100g Soya flour (heat treated)
85g pre-digested fishmeal
85g Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
25g selenavite e
10g GLM powder
CSL 50ml
CLO 25ml
8-9 eggs
does that about right?
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In reply to Post #395 like i said this is great help, and thanks for the discount code mate
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In reply to Post #396 so do 25g of GLM powder
how much CSL liquid should i put in?
and same with cod liver oil how much should i put in
with glm it depends on the depth of your pocket but i generally use 10 gms per kg
when i have used CSL i use it at 50 ml per kg
CLO i use at between 20 and 30 ml per kg
and.. would you suggest using flavoring or leave it with out?
peach and black pepper is a time honoured flavour combo
cranberry
tutti frutti
salmon
caviar
salmon / caviar
cranberry/ caviar
strawberry
cream
maple
the only flavours i use these days are nutrabaits and when it comes to flavour combos the worlds your oyster what ever flavour you go with stick with it . Its no good making a batch of bait 1 week with say strawberry and then next week make a batch with tutti
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In reply to Post #393 so do 25g of GLM powder
how much CSL liquid should i put in?
and same with cod liver oil how much should i put in?
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In reply to Post #392 You can get Selenavite E from VetUK and if you use this code ORDER10 you get 10% off your first order.
They are the cheapest I have found.
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In reply to Post #392 Lars28 links to some places to buy selenavite e in post 161. To be honest I've not brought any in a while. You may be able to get it cheaper if you shop around now.
I would use GLM or garlic powder and betaine or csl powder. I would also include CSL liquid, and some cod liver oil.
As for flavours, you could use any you fancy. Even some flavours you may not think about will go in this recipe. Try some of the Elites from Nutrabaits. If you don't fancy experimenting with flavours on this base mix, just choose a good fishy one, or even an essential oil. Orange oil or Clove being two of my favourites.
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In reply to Post #391 cheers mate, really appreciate the help.
Just a few more questions and ill be on my way
what bait additive would you suggest??
The water i'm fishing get really weedy in the winter, and they love maize!
Also where can i get selenavite e from??
and.. would you suggest using flavoring or leave it with out?
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