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framey

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#59 2 Oct 2025 at 3.13pm

Just wonder how much sh1t we would have beeen in if it wasn’t for covid
God knows how much was actually spent in total.

keeping jobs for people
Ppe for nhs etc

(I was at a nursing home on Tuesday and they half filled a skip with out of date masks and, they stacked it properly rather than just chucking them in.)

I think some of the financial mess could be blamed on this.
For those who kept their jobs through furlough during covid or got the self employed subsidies they could pay it back and help close the black hole that gets wider every day…
After all we are all in it together lol.

JasonM

Posts: 1557

#58 30 Sept 2025 at 8.14pm

The problem for decades has been labour and Tory rule - what benefits have they bought us ?

It is time for a change and reform might not be the right party but it will make these self serving idiots realise it’s time to listen to what’s it country folk are telling them.

Long live the revolution ✌️

wandle1

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#57 29 Sept 2025 at 10.43pm

In reply to Post #56
Tazi ,just bare in mind the ECHR was started by human rights lawyers those include Cherie Blair ,Tony Blair and Tony Blairs protégé which just happens to be the most despised PM in this country ever..

They along with Angela Merkal have caused this issue right across Europe ..when you look into the family history of some of these current leaders across Europe you'll find all sorts of family connections ..going back to membership of the left wing nazi party not many know the Nazis were deemed lefties..that was when Hitler became chancellor after serving prison time and wrote Mein Kampf ..

Also slightly off topic ,6 members of the German version of reform if you will all have suffered mysterious deaths recently maybe some doesn't like the alternative party for Germany, maybe they are telling the truth ...

All of a sudden in other countries this communist ID bs is being rolled out ,you have to ask why ?
Is it because Europe is awoken from the chains of woke ?

tazi

Posts: 4832

#56 29 Sept 2025 at 8.30pm

In reply to Post #55
Tories over their time in government allowed it to become worse and the less said about Labour the better. I wouldn’t be voting for either of them or reform because they’re there to serve the elites and themselves. As for reform wanting to leave the ECHR well that just leaves you further at their mercy. To see what is happening on the streets regards arrests for peaceful protests it’s just akin to fascism and all bought about because those politicians have sold us out to the murdering state of Israel. What an absolute mess this country is in.

Edit - As for Farage and his dying love for leaving the EU he’s all of a sudden seen as the messiah of fixing the migrant crisis. Yet another self serving vvank5ta1n.

TCarper

Posts: 4189

#55 29 Sept 2025 at 1.39pm

In reply to Post #53
I cannot answer that for you Tazi. All we do know, it's certainly not the tories or labour who have created this entire situation. They are never going to resolve it. The only party that is even talking about resolving it is the Farage lot. That's why they are killing the tories & labour in any polls going. It will be a landslide. Everyone knows it. The radical left are panicking about that. People have had enough. Political parties are voted in to enact the will of the people. That's not happening. The will of the British people is being ignored. Who the hell do these people think they are, that they think that they know better than us. Labour will never fix it, they are the ones gaining the votes from all of this.

We have got to lose political correctness in the UK. It's killing us. Our holier than thou attitude like we are still the empire is so far fetched it's not real. We are sending billions in aid to foreign countries... Countries who have space programmes who are going to the moon. We are not going to the moon. We can't afford that stuff. Yet we are paying billions to nations who can. Labour are giving away territories they don't need to, then renting them back for billions to keep our military bases there.

You really believe any other country in the world would ever allow white British men to start running their country in government, forming their political policies? Of course not. It would NEVER happen. Imagine a white British mayor of Mumbai who says he's going to build social housing just for the white population of the city. Civil war over night. Our kindness & our multiculturalism is being used to destroy us from within. That's being openly spoken about too, it's not fantasy. The longer we have left wing people in the UK defending this stuff, it will never get resolved. As the last post shows regarding the British military, we are now getting outnumbered by fighting age men. That's just in the past five years. Where will we be in another ten, or twenty years? There are eight towns and cities in the UK now where the indigenous English population are outnumbered. Including the capital city. Look at what happens in those areas now in political terms. This is not racist, this is fact.

I'm sick to death of hearing that the past is our fault. It's not our fault. The world was a different place 100 years ago. None of us were even alive. We are the most welcoming people in the ENTIRE world. This is without question. No one welcomes people like the UK has.

Many former British colonies are now financial power houses. Look at Singapore, look at Hong Kong just as examples off the top of my head. The standard of living in these places far outweighs our own. Former British colonies.

Singlebleep

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#54 29 Sept 2025 at 11.38am

A few facts and figures.

ILLEGAL migrants numbers from 2020 to 2024 totalled 175,000
ILLEGAL migrants number to June 2025 totalled 49,000

Total ILLEGAL immigrants 2020 to June 2025 = 224,000 ( mostly men aged between 18-30)

Total number of serving Army personnel (as of April 2025) = 86,000
Total number of serving Naval & Marines (as of April 2025)=33,900
Total number of serving RAF personnel (as of April 2025) = 32,600

Total number of British Armed Forces 2025 = 152,000 (mostly men aged between 18-40)

Concerned? Afraid?

tazi

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#53 29 Sept 2025 at 11.29am

Now don’t get me wrong I hear what you’re saying but how and more importantly who are the ones to correct all that is wrong with this country?.

TCarper

Posts: 4189

#52 29 Sept 2025 at 11.15am

In reply to Post #50
It's not just the killing of Charlie Kirk. It's the lefts shocking reaction to it. People openly rejoicing about what happened to that man online. That's terrible. It shows the type of person. It shows their morals. Because someone does not align with your political views. That does not mean that person should be publicly executed, whilst lunatics rejoice about it.

No one in the UK got convicted for doing that as far as I know. Yet say something about certain faiths or religions online in the UK and you are going to jail.

Anyone see the bloke who was burning their religious book? It's been doing the rounds on social media. A man from that faith chases him on a UK street with a big old knife, slashing him repeatedly with it. It's a 5 year jail sentence just for carrying a knife in the UK now on the street. This man should have been locked up for attempted murder. Let off totally free. It's so wrong for that stupid man to have been burning their religious book. That does not excuse attempted murder on camera.... Then to be let off without going to jail.

What sort of precedent does this stuff set? We wonder why the world is laughing at us?

It makes zero sense. It's almost like they want to incite civil war.

TCarper

Posts: 4189

#51 29 Sept 2025 at 8.47am

If anyone whatsoever wants some solid proof that these people are ditching their passports/ID's before they arrive here....

Could someone explain to me exactly how are they making it from the Middle East to the UK in the first place? How are they crossing multiple borders all across Europe, without any Passport? That's completely impossible, it can't happen. You need that Passport/ID to cross those borders in the first place to get here. Yet when they eventually come across the channel in a rubber boat, the Passports/ID's that got them to that point, are all suddenly gone.

Now ask yourself WHY they are ditching their ID's. It's not for any good reason for us, that's for certain. It's clearly to cover up who they are, and where they are from. Then our human rights lawyers can do the rest for them when they arrive. A racket that is costing us the UK tax payer the most stupid amount of money. A racket literally started by the men in power now governing us.

Go check out how many terrorists & enemies of the UK our current Attorney General defended against the UK before he got into government. It would seem that these days, to become a powerful politician, you need a background of fighting against the British people beforehand. This is not a good basis for the men elected to govern us. It's a terrible one.

ip100

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#50 28 Sept 2025 at 8.45pm

In reply to Post #42
Wanting to defend your country isn't fascism. Its so typical for the left to brand anyone who dont welcome all with open arms as fascist and racist. Its all just very lazy labelling of people. The left are dangerous, incredibly so. They are becoming manic with it. Look at what happened in the states a couple of weeks ago. A crazed leftie putting a bullet through someone's neck Infront of hundreds of people including his wife and children. All for airing his views and debating them with others.
As for the money, so they are forward thinking enough to save up, but can't get some id. Behave

Karlos

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#49 28 Sept 2025 at 8.33pm

In reply to Post #45
"Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard"

Totally agree that people fleeing wars should be helped.
If I were fleeing a war I would ensure that my children, then my wife was looked after before me.
I would also be grateful for a tent in a safe place, I wouldn't need a hotel/iphone/dental care etc etc.
And I would be grateful to the country sheltering me, not jumping off the boat and spouting anti-English hatred

There are two different scenarios there, and if the latter isn't happening then the left need to prove it, but they can't and that is why Farage is winning polls.
They fail day after day, week after week to answer simple questions...and they lie, and we know they are lying, and we have had enough...so someone who looks like a Simpsons character becomes the only chance of hope! I'd rather Zia Yusuf was the leader tbh.

Yes, I reckon political parties DO try to pee us all off so we are arguing amongst ourselves...the Democrats certainly do with their constant race baiting in the US...it's all a distraction so we're arguing whilst they get about their pocket-lining day-to-day selfish 'work'...

TCarper

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#48 28 Sept 2025 at 3.42pm

In reply to Post #45
Quote... Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone. Wow to the rest.

You are the only one pouring out your political views here though Tazi. You just can't see it. I can't see anyone else making funny names about certain political parties. Only you, the thread starter. You want to impart your political views onto others. In the same way you try to belittle anyone with a different view to you, implying they are fascist. That's what has been going on in the UK for years.

As for wow to the rest.... That's a very easy get out for you, isn't it?

Many people are answering the stuff which you are posting in this thread. I spent a lot of time answering your comments. You have no real comment to any of it whatsoever. You just make the statements, then make quips like that. "Wow to the rest".

You made zero comment about the Egyptian who brutally raped the British woman in Hyde Park. He was here illegally on a boat, to hurt us. Does it not offend you that your tax money went to keep him in a very expensive London hotel for 18 months? Whilst at the same time lawyers creamed so much money to keep him here too. He went on to destroy a British woman's life forever. That's one man, the cost is off of the charts. He was one of the very few who we actually knew about who he is. The rest ditch their ID in the channel before they even get here for nefarious reasons. They are being told to do this. They are arriving with business cards for left leaning human rights lawyers. British men who will defend them, for money from the British tax payer. It's all a sick joke at our expense. It's indefensible.

TCarper

Posts: 4189

#46 28 Sept 2025 at 3.08pm

Source.... The Migration Observatory... University Of Oxford.

The most popular destination in the UK among migrants is London, where they constitute 40% of the region's population. Non-EU migrants outnumber EU migrants in all regions of the UK except for Northern Ireland.

That above was March 2024. I've seen figures quoting that number as 55% now. That's a 15% jump in under 18 months. That's just the ones we know about. That figure is likely substantially higher. I've seen figures for other major European cities this year, Brussels being the worst with a now near 70% immigrant population.

We have always been multicultural and welcomed people from all over the world. Now the boats are full up with one specific religion. At what point does this become to much? In towns and cities around the UK now, the resident white British people are becoming outnumbered in their own country. The same is happening across Europe. But here, mayors and councillors are suddenly all becoming from other ethnic/religious backgrounds. What happens in ten years? Or twenty years? Mr Khan has managed to remain London mayor for multiple terms, every election there are more and more new Londoners to vote for him.

You have to be a blind person to not see what is going on at a national scale. When we are the minority in the entire country... What is going to happen?

That's not racism or fascist. That's a real fear for our grandkids. What are we leaving them?

tazi

Posts: 4832

#45 28 Sept 2025 at 3.04pm

In reply to Post #44
Sorry mate I only read the first line but I’m accepting of most things and where my comment of fascism comes from is from the likes of Liebour and Deform as that is what it is coming to and heaven forbid under Farage heaven help us.

Edit - Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone.

Wow to the rest.

Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard. Note to self read all of the post and not skip through it whilst watching the Ryder cup.

TCarper

Posts: 4189

#44 28 Sept 2025 at 2.08pm

In reply to Post #42
Like so many people who hold your views, you can't seem to accept anything that is actually going on. You just want to tar everyone who does not agree with you as a fascist.

You made this thread, you made it to vent your views about a certain political party really, you can't stop mentioning them. Do you see me or others trying to influence people who to vote for? No. I've never voted in my life. But a mans vote is his choice, not yours. Your very strange views are what has got this country into the very sorry state that it's in now. You seem to think that WE are the problem.

An illegal immigrant is not 'supposed' as you like to refer to it as. Anyone who enters this country illegally, ie in a boat across the channel is an ILLEGAL immigrant. You and your left leaning friends don't get to decide that definition. It's set in STONE. They are entering the country illegally. End of story. They are mainly young fighting age men. The last war we were involved in was the second gulf war. That finished in 2011. That was fourteen years ago now. So we have boats coming here on an almost daily basis because of some war that ended in 2011??? Where were they in 2013????

You can come up with every excuse under the sun. The people you want to defend so badly would slit your throat as fast as look at you. That's the pure stupidness of your arguments. If your children went to school in a muslim majority school and were being terrorised for being white/British you would not hold these views. If your 13 year old daughter was raped by someone coming from somewhere that they think that kind of **** is okay, you would not hold these views. They are not coming to integrate, they are coming to take over. It's being allowed to happen. For what reason we don't even know yet... But it is happening before our very eyes.

The Egyptian man above, we knew who he was.... There are now tens of thousands here that we don't know who they are. Not until they start beheading young children and live streaming it. Or blowing up our towns & cities.

Who remembers the recent attack on an electricity station near Heathrow? Now read the plans of that Egyptian man above again. That was all covered up pretty fast in the news, like so many other things that are going on in our country now. For religious reasons these people don't like you Tazi. Yes there are many many economic migrants in among these people. But there are also swathes of ex ISIS fighters and the like flooding into Europe. This is a recipe for disaster when British people are fighting to allow it to happen. I'll repeat, these people would have your head as quick as look at you. The purple haired people waving Palestine flags around constantly, do not seem to understand the concept that THEY would be the first to have their heads chopped off. There are numerous examples of aid workers going to Gaza to help... Then ending up being taken hostage or killed in a live stream!

Have a search what they have done to the Yazidi people in their own lands for being of a different religion. Kill the men & boys, take the women & girls as sex slaves. These people are very, very different to us. That has zero to do with any war. They have been trying to invade Europe for many centuries. They seem to have now worked out the way to do it, via our own kindness.

The most dangerous rise in the UK is not fascists, it's the rise of the radical left. That's what has got us into the problems which we are speaking about now. If we were actually full of fascists, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED, would it? It's because we are full of very vocal people with your left leaning views, that now we are suffering these problems. People have been afraid to speak up, in fear of people like you branding them a racist/fascist. That game is clearly ending now all over Europe. People will not accept that crap anymore. It's political correctness gone mad. When I grew up the tories were pretty right wing. That all stopped twenty years ago. Even the supposed right wing party in the UK moved to the left of centre really. So all this vitriol you spout is absolute ********. British people have just got to the stage where they have had enough. The more the radical left try to counter that with 'racist/fascist' talk, the more normal people who don't even vote like myself go the other way. I will vote next time. Just to stop people with your views being in control of this country and selling it down the river.


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