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In reply to Post #50
Exactly. A long skinny point, like a trighammer, but with the strength of a proper hook where its needed.
The points are much sharper and penetrate much easier against the lead weight, but not so "designer sharp" to just be a one fish hook.
The unsharpened hooks look pointy, but it gets so fat so quickly that the depth penetration would be minimal and far too easy to shake out.
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In reply to Post #49
It's personal preference isn't it? At times I want the point to be like a fine wire hook, but retain the full strength around the bend. Faster and deeper penetration with light leads.
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I don’t really want to take any meat off the hook below the barb. If you work on three sides with a decent file you don’t need to.
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In reply to Post #45
I take at least that much metal off at times and have never had a sharpened hook fail.
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In reply to Post #45
I do mine similar. I don't touch the actual point, just remove the 'shoulders'. I don't go quite as far as these..but never had any issues
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I thought them basix were quite decent put yhe pack, I only use them on runs waters but always been decent out the pack
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In reply to Post #44
I don’t want to be mean, but those sharpened hooks are poor. What are you using to sharpen them?
You’ve taken all the meat out of the front face with minimal effect on the actual point. I’d be nervous of those giving way half way down the point.
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In reply to Post #43
yes, definitely not designer sharp, but much sharper than out of the packet.
Also, they have been oiled to prevent rusting, and this makes the points look a bit less thin on the pictures.
These are bank tackle size 4, the sharpened one hasn't been oiled yet. Looks sharper.
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In reply to Post #42
Looking at that second photo I don’t think Jason Hayward has anything to be worried about 
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I previously posted that these hooks were not very sharp, but since then I have sussed how to sharpen hooks.
A barbless rule on a new water had me looking at some alternatives and I got a couple of packets of the korda basix hooks. The hook pattern is decent enough and once sharpened they are good enough. Managed a February 40 on one, so happy days.
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Simple answer for me, are they compromising on the hook material and manufacturing processes or the packaging, if it's the latter i agree, former, the difference for the angler is? Their profit margin?
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In reply to Post #22
Early days they had lots of issues with snapping. It seems they learned from it and adjusted the alloy composition. At that point it seems very hard and brittle. Nowadays, it more ductile and issues are solved. Korda produces proper, solid hooks
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In reply to Post #38
I can see them being ok for a beginner, fishing a commercial hole in the ground for smaller carp on a runs water. As you say if I'm fishing for a P.B. on a tricky lake I'd want to be sure my hook was the sharpest and strongest I could buy. I still think we are being ripped off with prices.
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In reply to Post #34
I use the wide gape X for Barbel on the Trent and that really gives them some hammer. I did use normal wide gapes but had one start to open when I landed a fish at Gunthorpe Weir (to be fair to the hook it's brutal on there, tons of water crashing over the weir every second, hard fighting Barbel and you have to keep them out of snags too).
There are has to be a reason why the basix are cheaper, and for me that rules out buying them. It's literally the most important part of your entire setup and there are a hundred places I'd save money first. I often go through 10 hooks in a 24 session on the Trent as well due to the amount of rocks bashing the points up.
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In reply to Post #36
Many hook patterns have made a switch from the original use into Carp fishing.
Look at the various hook patterns used in fly fishing, a fair few have been relegated to our league. B175 is obvious, but a few nymph or shrimp fly patterns as well.
Your point on Teflon coated, hand sharpened is true, some of these patterns even though still being sold in fly fishing say, in normal packing, don't have carp tax.
The carp angler has had his pants pulled down with premium prices for years
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