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Baitman
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   Old Thread  #88 13 Jul 2025 at 12.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #87
The general method is to stick to a set amount of liquids, eggs, hydros, etc, then add the amount of dry to achieve the correct firmness.

If it is very slightly too dry you can flick a bit of water over it and rework the paste without compromising the mix.
junglist
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junglist
   Old Thread  #87 13 Jul 2025 at 10.22am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #71
I've ordered a pack of witches nozzles now

With regard the poster questioning mix stiffness. The last batch I made was too stiff so I've upped the number of eggs / liquids. The mix is mainly birdfood along with kelp and crushed egg shells which I've always assumed is harder to gun out than a soft smooth milk mix!
chanmenie
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   Old Thread  #86 12 Jul 2025 at 6.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #80
I had similar with a 5mix pneumatic gun, it blew the whole nozzle adapter off the threaded end, it was the 4 nozzle solar one, it didn’t break it just jumped off the threads.
My mate was using it at the time and was standing next to me, it went past my head and put a big dent in the side of the freezer, thank christ it missed me.
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #85 12 Jul 2025 at 12.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #84
Found the yellow ones now, thank you
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #84 12 Jul 2025 at 12.15pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #83
You may get away with 14 x 16 barrels, can't say I've tried though.
The yellow witches hats are the way to go, then just hand roll a sausage with the remaining paste in the nozzle and stick it on the table and roll.
vossy1
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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #83 12 Jul 2025 at 11.57am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #82
Thanks mate. Have you got a suggestion for a alternative nozzle by any chance?
I typically use 15 or 16mm but Im looking to make barrels on a 14mm table but would like the flexibility for larger.
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #82 12 Jul 2025 at 11.50am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #80
I’m not going to say I told you so in that other thread Dave

I knew that was coming

And Vossy, the nozzles that come with the gun are useless unless you're doing small baits.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #81 12 Jul 2025 at 11.11am  0  Login    Register
I'm looking at this gun on Ebay at the moment, might finally pull my finger out and get one.
Do you guys buy the witches hats separately?

EDIT, the clear hats that come with it don't look like they have that great a size range but as with all pics this could be misleading. Do they go up to say 20mm size?

EDITED post
TCarper
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   Old Thread  #80 12 Jul 2025 at 3.26am  0  Login    Register
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I’m not going to say I told you so in that other thread Dave

People really should not use any plastic attachments from a hand gun on these powered guns. They come with metal collars & witches hats are 3 for a fiver. When they blow up, they go with a nasty bang. A weighty lump of solid plastic comes off the end at the speed of a bullet from a gun. I’ve blown up two, I’m in no doubts that either time it would have killed someone had it hit them in the head. I put a big deep dent in a solid wall in my old kitchen with one of those Gardner plastic attachments.

You simply can’t use plastic collars or attachment nozzles on these guns. Or exactly as per Baitmans photos you will do the same. We are running five of these guns daily. Witches hats and the metal collars that come with the gun are all you should use.

I purchased two more from the eBay seller two weeks ago. He has loads in stock.
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #79 6 Jul 2025 at 11.57pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #78
I wasn't suggesting that a wet mix without hardeners would produce a hard boilie. What I meant was, that you can have an extrudable mix with hardeners and not run the risk of shooting your missus in the kitchen with a Gardner nozzle 😂
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #78 6 Jul 2025 at 11.26pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #76
You are correct that if you do specially prepared hard hookers they will resist small fish whittling down.
It's not enough just to say they need to be air dried as a soft pasty mix without the added hardeners, even if its been air dried, will soon revert to a paste like boilie once in the water.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #77 6 Jul 2025 at 11.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #76
They will hammer anything. Shop bought, my own baits, anything at all. When there are that many ,they find a way
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #76 6 Jul 2025 at 11.01pm  0  Login    Register
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What are the hook baits that you get whittled down ? I've made my own for about 35 years and always included egg albumen / whey protein to avoid nuisance species. My most recent ones contain 25 % WPC and 10 % egg albumen. Honestly, it would have to be a roach / piranha hybrid to have any impact on those 😁. For me, it's 3 AM bream that are the problem !
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #75 6 Jul 2025 at 6.51pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #74
You've obviously never fished anywhere with a serious head of silvers then. They will absolutely hammer baits. The lake I fish for catfish at the moment has a huge roach population and they whittle boilies down easily
Tyto
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   Old Thread  #74 6 Jul 2025 at 4.31pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #73
Why would any mix with alb, whey gel or wpc have to be proper stiff ? It's all down to the moisture content. I've used all three ingredients for years in perfectly extrudable mixes. If the OP 's mix mix is lacking any of these ingredients, then yeah the baits will be softer. But over decades of using homemade baits, even " soft ones ", I've never actually had silvers whittle down baits. In fact, many bait companies now extol the virtues of softer baits with the premise that its more digestible. My opinion is that it just saves them money on ingredients 😂
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