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Rob hales has in the past tried to buy x2 different venues I was fishing at the time one was in 2010 and an one in 2015, both are owned by farmers (who are not short of a few quid), one of the venues he came back three times telling the owner to basically name his price, at the time the syndicate lads very very uneasy as we all know money talks, thankfully the owner told rob where to go as his family had owned the land for three generations and he found mr hales very pushy, I’ve also seen mr hales in a tackle shop and the way he spoke to the young lad behind the counter was poor, he comes across as an entitled knob to be honest and you would never see me fishing any of his waters
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He did it to the Mere, a stunning old venue. Now filled with munters for a rich man’s pleasure.
The lads lost out on that lake as I had mates who were part of it. He sent the builders in while these lads were enjoying there last few sessions. Digging up the roads and making disturbance.
He’s a full on helmet. Making anglers use his own overpriced bait to add to insult.
Anybody who thinks this is the way to do things is crazy.
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In reply to Post #11
The anglers aren't happy after the fact, didn't they take things forgranted, shouldn't they have checked and walked away when they realised it could happen before it did
Adding the cost of a solicitor to review a club membership before purchasing, search for precedents etc. could be quite restrictive. If you don’t take legal advice then it’s presumably Caveat Emptor?
And I can’t see clubs welcoming each new member’s solicitor sending in a list of questions for the club secretary to clarify helping the sport either.
At the end of the day, if someone in the sport is behaving within the law but also behaving like a $%^&, then they deserve to be called out publicly. If they truly don’t care what their peers think then (1) that is revealing in and of itself, and (2) they won;t mind whatever we post about them here!
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Just imagine that sense of personal achievement landing a just add water 70! 😂
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In reply to Post #26
Poor fish ! Plonked into a chilly lake after being hand fed in a nice warm indoor pool. May as well just create a lovely indoor pool surrounded with palm trees. electrical hook -ups and WiFi for each peg. Mr Whales could then keep a closer eye on his fat pets. Bait boats and Deeper allowed for an extra fee of course 😃.
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In reply to Post #26
Brilliant 
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In reply to Post #24
It's like going big game hunting in Woburn Safari Park!!!
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In reply to Post #19
I often have differing opinions to people, but I can respect their point of view. But I'm baffled by everything you've said in this thread.
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Another nail in the coffin. Another reason to be embarrassed to admit that you’re a carp angler.
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In reply to Post #19
Carp live to 50+. They live to 40+ years of age with ease. Being caught over & over again.
Big Rig was around 12/13 years old when it died. Only a few of those years were spent in a lake in reality. That's absolutely shocking & pretty disgusting in the scheme of what's going on, which you are desperate to defend Vossy.
One of the things that protects us from the antis is how much we revere & look after the carp that we fish for. What part of that is elitism to you? Is it anglers who dedicate themselves to catching big/old carp & do not agree with young fish being force fed in warm water tanks for some novice to go catch a 70lb carp, that's elitism to you?
Would Tiger Woods be elitist for not agreeing with a robotic golf club that allowed a 12 year old that had played golf twice, to go shoot 15- par & win the Open? Tiger Woods would call it an absolute farce & a disgrace to the game he loves. The 12 year old would call him elitist going by your standard.
I'm out.
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In reply to Post #19
You seem to be tying yourself up in knots a little bit to defend a silly point. How on earth are anglers going to know that the club or syndicate are going to sell their lake which they just paid a season ticket for? Are you Mystic Meg Vossy? You can see into the future and know what others plans are? Of course not.
I'm not sure what your point is here whatsoever. You seem to want to defend it, even when it makes you sound a little odd. You would be happy to lose your years ticket money like that? No one whatsoever would. You would absolutely feel like you'd been shafted like anyone else would. It takes NOTHING for a multi millionaire to refund a few anglers ticket money. Nothing whatsoever. It takes NOTHING for someone who just sold a lake for millions to refund a few members ticket money either. Not doing so, is just downright scandelous.
You are waiting for what, elitism? What are you going on about? Carp being grown in tanks to absolutely freak sizes (above British record), then stocked into lakes as green as grass to be clubbed like seals, that is stopping elitism in carp fishing for you is it? Okay then....
You have some VERY strange views on carp fishing & what it stands for to so many in that case Vossy.
For the record... I've been involved in lakes that got sold by clubs. The new owner sold 25 tickets out of 50 to former members of the club, just as a gesture of goodwill. The most sort after ticket in the land at the time. No one lost any money whatsoever.
Whomever is to blame, seller or the incredibly rich person buying, the poor bloody anglers are not to blame like you are implying here. That's REAL elitism at work right there.
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In reply to Post #19
How would it be the members fault,do you think the club would be transparent and tell you theyre thinking of selling up.Im not sure how a member could possibly know whats about to happen
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In reply to Post #15
That's my view on it as well. It was the responsibility of the previous owners/leaseholders to communicate this to the existing members and sort out compensation. I am sure that as with most business transactions (which this is) the contract will have explicitly covered off liabilities such as this. However, the stocking policy is different and I'm not going to get dragged into that, other than to simply say that its not my cup of tea
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In reply to Post #17
Are you actually saying that you would be happy with that? You think that situation would be your own fault?
I've already answered that, the hard reality, yes it's your own fault.
You didn't protect yourself by checking before signing up, who elses fault could that be? I'd be angry at myself, not blaming others, though I'd still be grateful for the time I'd spent on there. Life's too short to be angry at things that are out of your control, suck it up, move on 
I'm just waiting for someone to say the 70lb Carp shouldn't be appreciated for what it is, rather than what it isn't, it's not it's fault. Got to keep that eliteism going...question is how long can it go on for anyway, given that most Carp are bred for quick growth rates anyway, raised on pellets, subsidised by anglers baits, if not by the fishery itself, and most waters and brands being driven by size hungry media personalities...good luck with that 
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In reply to Post #13
Has he bought any waters that belong to clubs, or has he bought waters that the owners wanted to sell?
Did the owners sell midway through a clubs lease, or had the leases lapsed?
I can't imagine that RH would go into any purchase without knowing exactly what obligations he had, if any, to the clubs.
My guess to the above is that either the leases had lapsed, or moved to a rolling monthly arrangement pending the sale of the property.
If the clubs were mid lease I'm sure that it would have been the responsibility of the persons name on the lease to reimburse the club.
I very much doubt that RH would buy a water and just kick a leaseholder off, leaving himself open to legal action.
As for stocking 70lbers, well, they're his waters and his fish, after that it's up to anglers to decide whether they wish to angle for them. It is after all a business.
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In reply to Post #11
Quote....The anglers aren't happy after the fact, didn't they take things for granted, shouldn't they have checked and walked away when they realised it could happen before it did...isn't that most places in the U.K not just RH.
I bet you would be super happy & ecstatic Vossy, not. Think about it. If you waited to get on some lake for a few years.... Finally got your ticket, paid your (large) amount of money for your years membership... Then some multi millionaire comes along and buys the venue, instantly jogs you on. You just lost all your money...
Are you actually saying that you would be happy with that? You think that situation would be your own fault? That you should have foreseen it coming and walked away before it did happen apparently, in your own words.
Really?
It's best I do not even comment on stocked 70's. 
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In reply to Post #15
It very well could be,he could also do something for existing members
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In reply to Post #13
Isn’t that down to the owners who sold the venue to him to reimburse the members after all they are the ones who took the money from the members then sold the lake and took the money again with no compensation for the members or a deal with the new owners to honour the remainder of the members year
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I can't find the new video on YouTube, has it been taken down?
Any links please. Or was it just pictures. Only saw the pics of the "small 70" and not the other one.
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In reply to Post #11
He doesnt care what anyone thinks including the many members of clubs whos waters he has brought out and left current members out of pocket.How could anyone possibly know he is suddenly going to buy a water they are on,he did it with the mere and more recently with Patshall Park
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In reply to Post #11
I imagine you don't have the funding of the telly tubbies to hand either?
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In reply to Post #9
now also buying waters and current members lose money as he doesnt honour their membership or reimburse them for money they've lost
The anglers aren't happy after the fact, didn't they take things forgranted, shouldn't they have checked and walked away when they realised it could happen before it did...isn't that most places in the U.K not just RH 
Do I blame RH for acting like a bussinessman...no...would I do what he did, no, then again he'd probably be more successful than me 
Edit, 1 things for sure, he wont care what either of us think
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In reply to Post #1
Not for me, but if that's what floats your boat, good luck to you.
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In reply to Post #3
Surely you dont think what he is doing is right,now also buying waters and current members lose money as he doesnt honour their membership or reimburse them for money they've lost
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In reply to Post #7
I'd expect some weight loss after stocking...then again the way they supplement the feed who knows! I guess they'll have been aclimatising it for weeks, bringing the temps down to match the lake prior to release.
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In reply to Post #5
belly up or big weightloss within weeks i'd imagine
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So would it have been carrying that spawn for nearly 12 months, I thought they would somehow dump it eventually or snuff it?
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In reply to Post #4
Not being familiar to warm water raising of fish, I wonder how the fish know when the cycles are re spawning, or does it just naturally click into routine when exposed to seasonal weather...hmm
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Apparently one is looking very spawnbound 
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In reply to Post #1
Looking forward to it, and seeing those fish 😎
I can understand anglers bias, bit like big game hunters wanting wild, not bred prey.
But to look down on either is imo very poor, both fantastic living animals, just one is riduculed because of the label others put on it, so proud
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In reply to Post #1
Rather **** in my hands and clap than watch anything to do with that helmet and his lakes/fish
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just seen a video on rh fisheries saying theyve stocked 2 x 70s...madness hes growing them,albeit artificially to that weight....full video on yt tonight at 6
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