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In reply to Post #8
same here NEVER used it as there is FAR SUPERIOR stuff in ya local asian supermarket etc...
on a side note....
dockeys years ago i use to buy my MSG from H&B , then they/ it was BANNED!
so i got it from local asian supermarket at HALF PRICE what H&B were selling it at! 
...then a few years later MSG was UN -BANNED! 
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In reply to Post #8
That's exactly the same experience I had with this stuff.
After few trials I found it useless and I don't even finished the pot I bought at the time.
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In reply to Post #7
In my little plays around with it Junglist many years back, I found it absolutely & totally jank. I could not catch a single fish with it. Whilst stuff fished right next to it would be getting bite after bite. I personally would never entertain the stuff.
All these types of 'magic' attractants, if they were actually the dogs danglies, you lot would soon hear about it. People would be catching fish after fish after fish on them and no one would be able to keep a lid on that. They are not. Product has been around forever. Often gets spoken about, but I've never seen any evidence of great catches being made involving it.
It's like certain bait soaks and the like. You see on the media the stuff being bigged up time after time after time by paid stars on incredibly easy lakes during filming. In the real world of reality though, you don't see any major catches being made by everyday blokes using the stuff on any proper lakes.
If you lot are looking for ingredients that REALLY make a big difference in a carp bait, you are never going to find that in stuff sold within the fishing industry. Anything sold within the fishing industry has been done to death by all and sundry. Over & over again. You can find electric stuff, but it will come from the human food chain. Stuff is being 'invented' everyday all around the world for the human food industry, whereas the fishing ingredient industry is virtually stagnant. Look elsewhere for your 'wonder' ingredients, outside of the fishing industry.
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Is DMPT any good?
I see a few threads and mentions about it but not much else....
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In reply to Post #2
I don't know about the british situation, but here in europe it's not banned, but instead not permitted. Meaning no research has been done to get it approved. It's not like tests have been done and it's deemed unsafe or what have you, it's just that the spirit of the animal feed laws are such that everything is banned unless it's approved, which for instance is completely contrary to us laws for animal feed.
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In reply to Post #2
I see what you mean, these warnings can be taken to ridiculous lengths. However people should be wary of handling DMPT and breathing it in.
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In reply to Post #2
I can't find any documents where it states that DMPT ( Dimethyl propeothetin ) as used as a fish attractant has been reclassified . They're is another DMPT ( N,N - Dimethyl - p - toluidine ) which was re classified as a class 1 b carcinogen on Sep 1 st. It's used as a curing agent in adhesives and any products containing this at over 1 % are now for professional use only. As all the bait companies are still selling DMPT I'm wondering if there's been a case of mistaken identity ?
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Indeed Peter,
It seems very strange that a substance known to occur in many freshwater and seawater organisms, including algae, krill, molluscs and fish, should be a danger to the very creatures that contain it in Nature. Perhaps krill should be banned from baits!
See: A New Feeding Attractant, Dimethyl-beta-propiothetin, for Freshwater Fish by Nakajima, Uchida & Ishida, 1989.
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In reply to Post #1
Its been banned from animal feed for many years now but was always OK in 'lures' which for us is the hook bait (see EU 1831/2003). Since early September there are some new restrictions under UK REACH where it is a listed chemical now. As it is now reclassified as Carc 1B then in business use further practices are needed to handle it (COSHH. etc).
It does make me chuckle that its now classed as 'Harmful to aquatic life...' when one source in nature is algae!
As with may things a tiny amount used in a 'lure' is still considered OK when used as a hobby bait maker as COSHH isn't infourced in the home. You can still buy it from UK bait companies although they do state to take suitable precautions i.e. do not inhale, ingest etc and to only use in hook baits.
Personally never used it and don't see the need to try now.
Finally, burnt toast is a known carcinogen but as you are not forced to eat it at work it's not under COSHH rules. A lot of the banned stuff is for bigger uses like fish farmers not Jonny Smith in his bait shed making a couple of pots of hook baits every 6 months. If you want to see how stupid it could get look into 'Proposition 65' law in California. Google 'proposition 65 disneyland' to see how crazy the world can get over potential carcinogens 
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I've just watched John's latest video during which John explains that D.M. P. T .is now a banned substance, and is known to be a carcinogen. I just thought this information needs to be brought to the attention of a wider audience.
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