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In reply to Post #45
One of Corbyns mates?
They're also mates with a few other likely lads...
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"quote" Tory or Labour"
They're two cheeks of the same arse and the closer they get the sounds and stink they make get more repugnant 🤢
Can't remember who's words " if voting ever changed anything they would ban it"
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In reply to Post #44
Luton has always been known for it
If you go back further in time before islamists to the 70’s there was another band of freedom fighters from an island not so far away….
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In reply to Post #42
Or they’ll use it to find and dox Tommy Robinson…why else would they pick Luton (could be because it’s the terrorist capital of the country I guess, would be nice to know they were being caught)
Even AI knows… “Luton: Known for past associations with radical preachers and individuals involved in extremist networks.”
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In reply to Post #42
Got facial recognition already installed in local farm shop,they did fantastic breakfasts ..
Won't be going in there for foreseeable..
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In reply to Post #41
In Luton or Bedford
I think it’s either this week or next week they are using facial recognition cameras in the streets.
The difference is this will ALLEDGEDLY be erased once no evidence found of wrong doing or wanted for any crime
They have to notify of use for I believe 28 days prior to cameras going up
This should give enough time for the criminal fraternity to avoid the area and find elsewhere to go for the week…..
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In reply to Post #39
Yes I make you right, anyone with money will be able to make a stand Framey.
This is not targeting people with money though. This is targeting people who do not have a drivers license or a passport. That will be the poorer people in society in the main. That will cover people on benefits. You can see what will come. People will be forced to comply, or they will not get their money. How ironic that labour, who are meant to fight for the poorer in society are the ones desperate to bring it in. As Karl has pointed out, Blairs son is knee deep in the process. This will make a few people connected to Labour billionaires, like these things always do.
Like you allude too, this is totally about facial recognition. They want an up to date photo of everyone. Once they have that, AI will do the rest for them when all of those photos get uploaded onto the system. It might start at the border this week, but it will clearly get rolled out nationwide without all the fanfare of "this is how we stop the boats". You will not even need to carry the card. You will be scanned with a camera. Anywhere you go in the UK there are now stupid amounts of cameras. Now you will be able to be tracked, every move you make, every time you travel somewhere in the UK you will be pinging up on the cameras. You can bet all your money on the fact that there are a whole load more cameras coming to facilitate this. We already have more cameras watching us than anywhere in the world. They could have stopped those dinghies years ago. They are not interested, that's just a ruse to bring in what they want now. Tory or Labour, it's all the same thing in a different wrapping. They no longer seem to work for us. Once they have what they want from the situation, those dinghies are going to get stopped instantly. Until then, we will be shown it all over & over again. Rubbing our noses in it. A great distraction.
Facial recognition has been around for years now. Just not in public settings. If I was to walk into any Mayfair casino over the past twenty years, facial recognition would pull me out instantly, I would be refused entry. A similar premise is coming for the public now. As everyone is alluding to, this is about control.
Scarily there are many proposals being vaunted around, another I have heard is if you leave the UK more than a certain amount of times you will be financially checked. Suddenly, this new lot are all about taking our freedoms away. All starts to sound very communist indeed.
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I ,have ...in all my life never been so down and depressed about the way things are going
I'm glad I'm not a young person ,starting out ..starting a family, trying to buy a house ,working hard with a vision for the future..
I see the kids going to school all innocent like I was as a kid ,I feel scared for them ..
I worry about the beautiful countryside being destroyed as the UK is so overpopulated..I see Net Zero doing irreparable damage to wonderful places,all based on the biggest lie of all ,which is a natural cyclical evolution ,bring exploited by politicians to control and digitally enslave us ..
No one looks happy ,no one seems to smile at each other,it's like zombie land ..
In a minute something is going to happen ,I can FEEL ,it ..what that is I have no idea ..
Maybe terrible civil unrest ,where martial law is used,and the forces deployed ,possibly hurting our very own ...
It ain't a good time to be alive ,but whatever happens do not accept the terrible BRITCARD ,its mandatory if it comes in ,I won't accept it ,
The amount of people I hear about saying the worst ,most stupid thing they ever did is to accept the vax ,as they now understand how psychologically coerced they were ,
What a time to be alive ,NOT ....I'm off fishing wtf ,I nearly said in voice of Eminem 'fck the freeworld '....more like Stuck Farmer ,the elites,Blair ,his missus and the WEF..and ECHR..
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In reply to Post #37
It may well be compulsory but you will need to send an upto date photo of yourself.
Don’t do it and what can they do it’s going to take years to roll it out.
They cant even build a railway line on budget and on target. What hope do they have on bringing in a compulsory card.
It’s not the first time any party has wanted to bring in a national ID card
May have been Tony b liar under the last Liebour government ??
I forget sometimes who is wearing what colour tie nowadays hehehe
People do tend to have short memories when it comes to politics.
However
I still don’t think farage is the answer either
But these are only my opinions….
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In reply to Post #34
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It will be made compulsory Framey. It's not about applying for it. You will be forced to have one, there lies the problem. You will be expected to carry your ID on you at all times. As others are alluding too, this is for far more sinister reasons. The fact it is being wrapped up as "This is how we will stop the boats" is a joke. They really believe that we are all complete idiots.
There is a another massive problem that just does not get spoken about in the UK. What all this is doing to our tourism industry. Tourism is a major part of the UK economy. They changed the rules about entering via a plane or boat legally. Now you need to apply for a visa from most countries in the world if you want to visit the UK on holiday. I know from spending half my life abroad, that these visas are being turned down en masse. I've spoken to so many people over the past couple of years who have had holiday visas refused. People with money who want to come visit the UK on holiday. I've spoken to English tax payers trying to bring loved ones to the UK on holiday, who have been refused over & over again. I mentioned on here before about the Filipino woman in the lobby of a 5* hotel in Manila. Her half English daughter works in banking in the city of London. Pays an absolute fortune in tax. She has not been able to visit her daughter for the past few years, can't get a holiday visa. She was visiting & spending a fortune in the UK as a tourist for twenty years before that. She was going crazy about the boats coming across the channel.
Come in a boat illegally, they want to hand it all to you on a plate.
Try and resolve a visa just to visit the UK on holiday, nowadays they are turning them down.
I am a UK tax payer. To bring my wife to the UK to meet my family, the visa application costs £2k. The total cost is around £3.5k. That's a big ole chunk of money. That's just for them to say yes okay your wife can come meet your family. It's not even worth applying for a holiday visa, going on what I've been told it would only be refused. It's either pay the big dollar, or if you cannot afford it, tough luck. I am lucky in that I can afford the £3.5k for my missus to meet my family. They are tightening down so much on the legal routes... Whilst at the same time allowing so many thousands to come in by boat.
None of it makes any sense. They are absolutely killing our tourist industry during all this too. We are now being listed in certain places as an unsafe country to visit. If that does not tell you how far we are falling, nothing will.
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Don’t apply to get it
Can’t stick everyone in prison.
The wheels of the country can’t stop because no one’s applied for it.
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In reply to Post #32
The UK government already has my facial data, from passport control. I don't mind that (as a stand alone piece of data)
The US government has my fingerprints, when I went to holiday in June they were taken as I entered the country. I don't mind that.
I do not want the UK government having a single ID card which they can relate to everything (the fact that Tony Blairs son Euan is 'nuts deep' in the project is a tell in itself...
Want to go on holiday? Sorry, your Brit Card shows you haven't had jab #12, or paid the 'luxury tax' that others who can't afford a holiday will need (to go and waste on Carling and roll ups ... there's often a reason these people are poor!)
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In reply to Post #32
But not to get back in if you come on a dinghy. It's your human right.
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In reply to Post #31
Subtle psychological mind training…… Tel lies through vision…….AKA your TV in the corner of the room…… 
Few years from now and once digital integration is completed along with a cashless society you will only be able to eat and drink what that allow, travel where they allow you to go etc or have you money with held until you comply!
Futures bright…… 
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Soon, to leave the country you'll need to have your facial biometrics & fingerprints registered on a digital file..
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Signed and shared everywhere I can. Not that this gives will even take notice of it.
Things like this should only be voted for by the people. I don't know how they can get away with this.
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In reply to Post #25
Quote.... But another card with your photo on is part of a Marxist agenda?
Signed.
It's this attitude right here from Beyonce, from our own British people, that has got us into the mess that we are in now.
We already have digital ID. It's called a passport. This is targeting the poorer people who do not have a passport or a drivers licence. Ask yourself why. This is all part of a much more sinister future for us. Cash will go next. Massive hikes in transactions fees by the banks. Our money will be worth nothing within 50 transactions. It will be in the bankers coffers.
We are ruled now by ex human rights lawyers, who spent their ENTIRE life before government, shafting the British people on behalf of foreign nationals. Our prime minister & most of the major power positions, including the London mayor. All of them. Why are we expecting any different?
We have our ex service men living on the streets. Whilst more than 10% of the social housing in the UK has been given to foreign nationals. That's over 400,000 properties. We have illegals living in the Hilton hotel in Park Lane, Mayfair. You reading this, if you lose everything tomorrow & become homeless. You think that they are going to put you up in the Hilton in Park Lane? Of course they are not. Despite paying taxes your whole life into our system You will be homeless, on the streets and no one in power will care.
Yet we have British people defending this shat. You could not make it all up.
Time to bring back treason. We need a revolution in this once great country before it's to late. There is an agenda going on all over Europe. The world is laughing at us. The Americans are laughing, the Chinese are laughing, the entire world outside Europe is laughing at us.
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Starmer is a dirty **** ****!!
Everything is pre planned, from 9/11 to Covid!
Blokes a puppet and like many governments across the world they try to sell this **** to Joe public as “we’re doing it for the masses benefit” and without us you would be fooooked!
It’s Great to see so many people now aware of the **** they have been peddled over the years! Covid jabs being the main one people now won’t go near 
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Signed.
This government, the previous one and I’m sure the next one cannot be trusted as they all keep demonstrating,
How many government / civil service / public sector data leaks have there been in the last 5 years.
I just asked ChatGPT
Year
What happened
Impact / details
2025
MoD Afghan Relocations Data Breach (2022 leak revealed in 2025)
A spreadsheet in 2022 containing the personal information of ~18,700 Afghans who applied under the ARAP (Afghan Relocations & Assistance Policy) was accidentally sent by MoD outside secure system. The leak affected names, contact details, and some family info. Estimated 80,000-100,000 people (including family members) possibly at risk. There was a superinjunction to block reporting until 2025.
2024
PSNI Data Breach (Police Service of Northern Ireland)
A spreadsheet released as part of a Freedom of Information request included a “hidden” tab with surnames, initials, rank, role, and other details of all 9,483 PSNI officers and staff. The ICO fined PSNI £750,000 for this breach. This was called an “egregious breach” because of exposure risk to dissident republicans etc.
2023-2024
Information Security Review by the Government
After multiple accidental data breaches in the public sector, including the Afghan leak and others, the Cabinet Office published a review in 2023 to try to improve procedures.
2021-2022
Electoral Commission cyber-attack & data breach
In 2021-22 the Electoral Commission was hacked; reference copies of the electoral registers (names and addresses of 40 million UK voters) were accessed.
2021
MoD ARAP email error (smaller leak)
An earlier breach where a mass email was sent to 245 people under the ARAP scheme, exposing details of interpreters fleeing Afghanistan. A smaller but serious breach.
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In reply to Post #25
Quote: “ But another card with your photo on is part of a Marxist agenda?”
Answer: Why would a known Marxist do anything that wasn’t following their belief. Why would they aim to get in power, and then once there NOT do what they’ve been dreaming of doing their whole life? Why? His decisions are not popular, I saw an article yesterday where his popularity rating had dropped down level with Megan Markle. As a leader of a country you expect them to do what’s best for you, not them. Not that I’m suggesting any other party has been better, or will be, but it’s a case of voting for the lesser evil…
It’s another small piece in the gradual creep that direction, yes. Infact if it all gets tied in to your banking then it’s a much bigger piece once they do away with cash.
Once money is a digital number on a computer somewhere they can decide what it’s worth. This happened to an extent during decimalisation
What would stop ‘the powers’ from turning off your bank account?
Canada done it to the truckers during Covid. It’s already happened, this isn’t some paranoid theory.
The likes of Starmer want to wallow around in the elite class whilst everyone else become equal peasants, they’re already talking about taxing anyone with a property over £500k. Where’s the incentive to try hard and save and do well? We already get taxed too much as it is, and when we’ve scrimped and saved all our lives to leave something for our kids they want to tax anything over 300k (I think it is) from that. It’s already been taxed once, so they’re taking another bite of the cake undeservedly, because let’s face it they’re **** at their job, all of them. There’s no real accountability.
Still not heard any examples of a decent communist run country yet? Surely one of you weak lefty soy boys can try and think of one…and then go enjoy living there!
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You’re on an electoral role, you have a national insurance number, you probably have a passport and a drivers licence.
But another card with your photo on is part of a Marxist agenda?
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In reply to Post #8
Of course we do, for decades and decades. It's not for nothing that merkel received the european kalergi price not once but twice. I always thought holland was one of the test countries for the brave new world, since the people are really servile, but the uk under sturmer is something else now, pfff:/
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In reply to Post #22
I didn’t sign as I don’t want to leave my name, email and postcode there.
Like you that's what I find quite humerous, as if ALL your personal info isn't already on data bases somewhere. A lot of people use biometrics (fingerprints & retinal scan on their phones) as if that information is safe and not accessible. So the card is a invasion of your privacy & rights...what privacy/rights. Most people can't be bothered reading privacy statments and give their data away willy nilly but if the government wants something which might (and I use the word might) help tackle a issue, we choose to say no...hmmm
What's that saying about democracy, the illusion of having a choice to keep control
Say no anyway...feel like you have a choice.....anarchy
EDIT, found it I think, Naom Chomsky
"The illusion of choice is the most effective tool of control."
People feel free when they believe they have choices, even if those choices are meaningless. This quote exposes how systems maintain control by offering superficial options that lead to the same outcome. True freedom requires recognizing when choices are manipulated. Awareness breaks the illusion and leads to real autonomy.
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It’s amusing to see the reaction to Starmer’s stupid idea. Blatantly targeted at the “stop the boats brigade”, yet they’re more up in arms than everyone else is! Labour, with that majority, can implement it if they have the political will and intelligence, but that’s something that is clearly in short supply.
I didn’t sign as I don’t want to leave my name, email and postcode there. 
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Just remembered something, Starmer saying this is to tackle illegal workers. Aound 7 or 8 years ago I found a wallet while walking my dog, the cards it contained were scattered all over the place. I re packed the wallet and took it back to the owner whose address was on one of the cards, they lived around 3 miles away.
Anyhow, the chap was delighted, especially to see that his right to work in the U.K card, complete with chip and pic was in the wallet....he said he needed it to work...what am I missing?
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In reply to Post #19
All I can say is mate ,is look after yourself and loved ones,because most brits are weak ,and won't stand up for themselves, they might look tough a few tats ,a 'hard looking hair cut' but we all know the word sheeple ..
Like Vossy rightly said ,about going abroad ,and he's right ..
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Just re read, 5% of all deaths in Canada were medically assisted, 2023 bill passed that mentally ill can be offered the option.,= state sponsored murder.
As said they're moving towards communism, the rise of antifa and the far left and the vilification of patriots on our streets by the media and police. I'm disgusted 🤢
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I've moved this to Non Carp from General Carp Discussion as so far there's not even been a mention of a carp...being taken for the table
I signed this petition this morning but it did make me think this one rather simple Q in a otherwise rather complicated topic
I wonder how many people will give up the right to go to Europe to catch Carp if and when they bring in finger print scans and retinal ID, is there really that much difference?
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In reply to Post #14
It is age 12, not 13. I found the video and she mentions it at the end (the main part of her interview is military experience oriented)
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In reply to Post #14
Yes...,is all that needs to be said, correct
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In reply to Post #13
Canada is the 'benchmark 'what's happened over there ,comes here at somepoint..remember the farmers up in arms ,and in France ...
The minute we had the first lockdown I knew it was a lie ,..especially ,and my family will tell you I made a phone call to Treliske hospital asking how many were in ICU ,there were none,no one was ill or dying from covid ,all my family heard the conversation..I just get gut feelings about stuff ,I listen and take note ...especially when MSN was saying people were dead and dying ..in that hospital
Now people who before hand dismissed this as rubbish have woken up ..
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In reply to Post #13
That also got mentioned by a Triggernometry guest.
People like Ester Ranson with terminal cancer...making up their own mind that they want to go to Dignitas is fine.
The scary bit is when siblings decide amongst themselves that their parent is 'probably best put out of their misery' ... as they rub their hands and ensure the will is written how they want it.
Please fact check this as I don't want to spread misinformation, but I am sure the guest said that in Canada if a parent had a child who was disabled they had the option to .... I don't even know how to word this it's so horrendous .... basically if they were under 13yr old they could un-alive them if they wanted.
It's saved Canada millions in welfare already ....   
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In reply to Post #8
Add state sponsored murder to that list wandle,aka assisted dying, Canada is already way down deep into that wormhole where "burdensome" poor unfortunate souls are "made aware" of the option.the stories and stats are frightening
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In reply to Post #9
I have studied this since 2019 ..I got a original lockstep copy
...from a US military source ,no bs ..
Basically, as soon as cash is removed from mainstream use,you will be at the mercy of Britcard ,designed by Euan Blair ,therefore it is possible to debank you completely, you will have nothing ...
Hence the saying by WEF ,you will have nothing and be happy, unless you COMPLY ,,that is the whole ethos of Stuck farmer and Davos elite ,,people are saying why doesn't C,boi,help his subjects ,he won't because C,boi is part and parcel of Net Zero and a WEF founder ..
In a nutshell,we are having communism thrust upon by the guise of Kalergi, Kalergi is open borders immigration on purpose
They are trying to force digital ID, using immigration as an excuse ..
Stuck farmer,Cherie Blair are part of the UCHR,Starmer being a lawyer or whatever wrote it ...
There is other stuff,but that's it ,it's Marxist control
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In reply to Post #8
Do you have Kalergi in Holland ,that is mass uncontrolled immigration, if so then you are right to be concerned..
Of course they do with everything associated with it, and imo even worse censorship of the press (missed of your list..lol)
Imagine asking a relative about a incident over there to be told they hadn't seen it in their news.
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In reply to Post #6
We have a duty to inform as many as possible of the consequences of what would be virtually a chip in your neck, the pound in your pocket will be next.
The double kick in the teeth with the announcement was that the aim was to control illegal workers. No,close the door,deport and properly punish those who employ illegal workers.
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In reply to Post #7
Do you have Kalergi in Holland ,that is mass uncontrolled immigration, if so then you are right to be concerned..
This is all connected
Jabs
Boosters
Track and trace
Eat out to help out
Lockdowns for no reason
Mental health explodes
Climate ,manufactured lies
Net Zero
ULEZ
Solar panals ripping up agriculture land
Huge windturbine dominating countryside
No w ...hi,,tes on the TV much, all melinated
The demonising of the motor car ,ICE
The ban of petrol diesel engines manufacture in 2030 ..
The destruction of generational farming
People who investigated this ,demonised ,ridiculed, publicly, by the controlled media ,
All the above inter twined ,all happening for a reason ,that reason is to make you all
COMPLIANT...
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From holland, godspeed and i truly hope you defeat the beast system. At the moment you are a few steps ahead, but we are on exactly the same road.
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In reply to Post #5
Spot on ,Stuck said ,he answers to Davos only ,not the people of this country ..
This is the biggest manufactured threat to this country since WW2,...only this time the beast is in power ..
No conspiracy, this is the biggest threat to your freedom and going about daily life unhindered ..
This is part of Net Zero ,lockstep agenda 20/30 ..it is real..
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Signed, and watching that number tick up every few seconds.
Starmer is a Marxist. This isn't a theory, watch Peter Hitchins on the Triggernometry podcast and he confirms Starmer is mega-marxist because Hitchins himself used to be marxist before reality set in and saw the people Starmer hangs around with.
Communism makes everyone poor, except the ruling few. Nobody wants to work hard when they know they get paid the same as the lazy people they work with, there's no incentive to excel.
Show me a successful Communist country and I'll take that back.
By all means support labour, I don't care, but Starmer isn't true Labour is he? He's even said he would rather be in Davos than Westminster, with his UNELECTED WEF retard friends...he doesn't care about England / you / me. Look at the blokes eyes, absolutely emotionless.
His Dad (and Mum) truly were Toolmakers....
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In reply to Post #1
Signed with absolute pleasure ..
This is the moment where we ALL need to become one ,this is what I've been on about for ages ,..
Stuck farmer ,under direction from Blair and WEF ,the D id,is nothing to do with controlling immigration as most will have now understood but everything to do with FULL CONTROL of absolutely everything you can think of ...
This is communism ....DO NOT COMPLY..
Euan Blair ,that is Tony Blairs son ,is part of Britcard ,worth to him 375 million alone ,you could not make this up ,it's been in making for many years ..
Like the OP said, sign like fuk...and share ,think of your family ,children ,grandchildren..think ahead ...
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks for the linky poo 👍
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As per thread title, I implore everyone, everyone you know, everyone they know and everyone you don't know to sign this .
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
I always feared that they would try to introduce this one day but still couldn't quite believe what I was hearing this morning.
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