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Could anyone explain to me why we have so many English left wingers from a Christian background protesting on our streets at what is happening in Gaza almost daily... Whilst at the same time you see zero protests from the same folks regarding Christians being slaughtered en masse in Nigeria? It's a very strange situation indeed. All out genocide going on in Africa by fanatical Muslims for religious reasons. Yet we hear zero about it whatsoever on our news. No protests on our streets.
Then you get what happened in Isreal on the 7th October a couple of years ago to the Jews.... No protests in the UK. Then after their response to that... You have left wing Christians out on the streets in the UK en masse protesting it. The BBC absolutely love it.
I've never understood any religion myself. But none of that above makes any sense to me personally.
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Michelle mone been outed over a ppe contract,only one of many who made millions off the plandemic.politicians their friends families and proxys with billions stashed away from it. And don't let it surprise you if in a few years time we find out they re invested in budget hotels.
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Just wonder how much sh1t we would have beeen in if it wasn’t for covid
God knows how much was actually spent in total.
keeping jobs for people
Ppe for nhs etc
(I was at a nursing home on Tuesday and they half filled a skip with out of date masks and, they stacked it properly rather than just chucking them in.)
I think some of the financial mess could be blamed on this.
For those who kept their jobs through furlough during covid or got the self employed subsidies they could pay it back and help close the black hole that gets wider every day…
After all we are all in it together lol.
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The problem for decades has been labour and Tory rule - what benefits have they bought us ?
It is time for a change and reform might not be the right party but it will make these self serving idiots realise it’s time to listen to what’s it country folk are telling them.
Long live the revolution ✌️
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In reply to Post #56
Tazi ,just bare in mind the ECHR was started by human rights lawyers those include Cherie Blair ,Tony Blair and Tony Blairs protégé which just happens to be the most despised PM in this country ever..
They along with Angela Merkal have caused this issue right across Europe ..when you look into the family history of some of these current leaders across Europe you'll find all sorts of family connections ..going back to membership of the left wing nazi party not many know the Nazis were deemed lefties..that was when Hitler became chancellor after serving prison time and wrote Mein Kampf ..
Also slightly off topic ,6 members of the German version of reform if you will all have suffered mysterious deaths recently maybe some doesn't like the alternative party for Germany, maybe they are telling the truth ...
All of a sudden in other countries this communist ID bs is being rolled out ,you have to ask why ?
Is it because Europe is awoken from the chains of woke ?
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In reply to Post #55
Tories over their time in government allowed it to become worse and the less said about Labour the better. I wouldn’t be voting for either of them or reform because they’re there to serve the elites and themselves. As for reform wanting to leave the ECHR well that just leaves you further at their mercy. To see what is happening on the streets regards arrests for peaceful protests it’s just akin to fascism and all bought about because those politicians have sold us out to the murdering state of Israel. What an absolute mess this country is in.
Edit - As for Farage and his dying love for leaving the EU he’s all of a sudden seen as the messiah of fixing the migrant crisis. Yet another self serving vvank5ta1n.
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In reply to Post #53
I cannot answer that for you Tazi. All we do know, it's certainly not the tories or labour who have created this entire situation. They are never going to resolve it. The only party that is even talking about resolving it is the Farage lot. That's why they are killing the tories & labour in any polls going. It will be a landslide. Everyone knows it. The radical left are panicking about that. People have had enough. Political parties are voted in to enact the will of the people. That's not happening. The will of the British people is being ignored. Who the hell do these people think they are, that they think that they know better than us. Labour will never fix it, they are the ones gaining the votes from all of this.
We have got to lose political correctness in the UK. It's killing us. Our holier than thou attitude like we are still the empire is so far fetched it's not real. We are sending billions in aid to foreign countries... Countries who have space programmes who are going to the moon. We are not going to the moon. We can't afford that stuff. Yet we are paying billions to nations who can. Labour are giving away territories they don't need to, then renting them back for billions to keep our military bases there.
You really believe any other country in the world would ever allow white British men to start running their country in government, forming their political policies? Of course not. It would NEVER happen. Imagine a white British mayor of Mumbai who says he's going to build social housing just for the white population of the city. Civil war over night. Our kindness & our multiculturalism is being used to destroy us from within. That's being openly spoken about too, it's not fantasy. The longer we have left wing people in the UK defending this stuff, it will never get resolved. As the last post shows regarding the British military, we are now getting outnumbered by fighting age men. That's just in the past five years. Where will we be in another ten, or twenty years? There are eight towns and cities in the UK now where the indigenous English population are outnumbered. Including the capital city. Look at what happens in those areas now in political terms. This is not racist, this is fact.
I'm sick to death of hearing that the past is our fault. It's not our fault. The world was a different place 100 years ago. None of us were even alive. We are the most welcoming people in the ENTIRE world. This is without question. No one welcomes people like the UK has.
Many former British colonies are now financial power houses. Look at Singapore, look at Hong Kong just as examples off the top of my head. The standard of living in these places far outweighs our own. Former British colonies.
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A few facts and figures.
ILLEGAL migrants numbers from 2020 to 2024 totalled 175,000
ILLEGAL migrants number to June 2025 totalled 49,000
Total ILLEGAL immigrants 2020 to June 2025 = 224,000 ( mostly men aged between 18-30)
Total number of serving Army personnel (as of April 2025) = 86,000
Total number of serving Naval & Marines (as of April 2025)=33,900
Total number of serving RAF personnel (as of April 2025) = 32,600
Total number of British Armed Forces 2025 = 152,000 (mostly men aged between 18-40)
Concerned? Afraid?
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Now don’t get me wrong I hear what you’re saying but how and more importantly who are the ones to correct all that is wrong with this country?.
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In reply to Post #50
It's not just the killing of Charlie Kirk. It's the lefts shocking reaction to it. People openly rejoicing about what happened to that man online. That's terrible. It shows the type of person. It shows their morals. Because someone does not align with your political views. That does not mean that person should be publicly executed, whilst lunatics rejoice about it.
No one in the UK got convicted for doing that as far as I know. Yet say something about certain faiths or religions online in the UK and you are going to jail.
Anyone see the bloke who was burning their religious book? It's been doing the rounds on social media. A man from that faith chases him on a UK street with a big old knife, slashing him repeatedly with it. It's a 5 year jail sentence just for carrying a knife in the UK now on the street. This man should have been locked up for attempted murder. Let off totally free. It's so wrong for that stupid man to have been burning their religious book. That does not excuse attempted murder on camera.... Then to be let off without going to jail.
What sort of precedent does this stuff set? We wonder why the world is laughing at us?
It makes zero sense. It's almost like they want to incite civil war.
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If anyone whatsoever wants some solid proof that these people are ditching their passports/ID's before they arrive here....
Could someone explain to me exactly how are they making it from the Middle East to the UK in the first place? How are they crossing multiple borders all across Europe, without any Passport? That's completely impossible, it can't happen. You need that Passport/ID to cross those borders in the first place to get here. Yet when they eventually come across the channel in a rubber boat, the Passports/ID's that got them to that point, are all suddenly gone.
Now ask yourself WHY they are ditching their ID's. It's not for any good reason for us, that's for certain. It's clearly to cover up who they are, and where they are from. Then our human rights lawyers can do the rest for them when they arrive. A racket that is costing us the UK tax payer the most stupid amount of money. A racket literally started by the men in power now governing us.
Go check out how many terrorists & enemies of the UK our current Attorney General defended against the UK before he got into government. It would seem that these days, to become a powerful politician, you need a background of fighting against the British people beforehand. This is not a good basis for the men elected to govern us. It's a terrible one.
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In reply to Post #42
Wanting to defend your country isn't fascism. Its so typical for the left to brand anyone who dont welcome all with open arms as fascist and racist. Its all just very lazy labelling of people. The left are dangerous, incredibly so. They are becoming manic with it. Look at what happened in the states a couple of weeks ago. A crazed leftie putting a bullet through someone's neck Infront of hundreds of people including his wife and children. All for airing his views and debating them with others.
As for the money, so they are forward thinking enough to save up, but can't get some id. Behave
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In reply to Post #45
"Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard"
Totally agree that people fleeing wars should be helped.
If I were fleeing a war I would ensure that my children, then my wife was looked after before me.
I would also be grateful for a tent in a safe place, I wouldn't need a hotel/iphone/dental care etc etc.
And I would be grateful to the country sheltering me, not jumping off the boat and spouting anti-English hatred
There are two different scenarios there, and if the latter isn't happening then the left need to prove it, but they can't and that is why Farage is winning polls.
They fail day after day, week after week to answer simple questions...and they lie, and we know they are lying, and we have had enough...so someone who looks like a Simpsons character becomes the only chance of hope! I'd rather Zia Yusuf was the leader tbh.
Yes, I reckon political parties DO try to pee us all off so we are arguing amongst ourselves...the Democrats certainly do with their constant race baiting in the US...it's all a distraction so we're arguing whilst they get about their pocket-lining day-to-day selfish 'work'...
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In reply to Post #45
Quote... Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone. Wow to the rest.
You are the only one pouring out your political views here though Tazi. You just can't see it. I can't see anyone else making funny names about certain political parties. Only you, the thread starter. You want to impart your political views onto others. In the same way you try to belittle anyone with a different view to you, implying they are fascist. That's what has been going on in the UK for years.
As for wow to the rest.... That's a very easy get out for you, isn't it?
Many people are answering the stuff which you are posting in this thread. I spent a lot of time answering your comments. You have no real comment to any of it whatsoever. You just make the statements, then make quips like that. "Wow to the rest".
You made zero comment about the Egyptian who brutally raped the British woman in Hyde Park. He was here illegally on a boat, to hurt us. Does it not offend you that your tax money went to keep him in a very expensive London hotel for 18 months? Whilst at the same time lawyers creamed so much money to keep him here too. He went on to destroy a British woman's life forever. That's one man, the cost is off of the charts. He was one of the very few who we actually knew about who he is. The rest ditch their ID in the channel before they even get here for nefarious reasons. They are being told to do this. They are arriving with business cards for left leaning human rights lawyers. British men who will defend them, for money from the British tax payer. It's all a sick joke at our expense. It's indefensible.
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Source.... The Migration Observatory... University Of Oxford.
The most popular destination in the UK among migrants is London, where they constitute 40% of the region's population. Non-EU migrants outnumber EU migrants in all regions of the UK except for Northern Ireland.
That above was March 2024. I've seen figures quoting that number as 55% now. That's a 15% jump in under 18 months. That's just the ones we know about. That figure is likely substantially higher. I've seen figures for other major European cities this year, Brussels being the worst with a now near 70% immigrant population.
We have always been multicultural and welcomed people from all over the world. Now the boats are full up with one specific religion. At what point does this become to much? In towns and cities around the UK now, the resident white British people are becoming outnumbered in their own country. The same is happening across Europe. But here, mayors and councillors are suddenly all becoming from other ethnic/religious backgrounds. What happens in ten years? Or twenty years? Mr Khan has managed to remain London mayor for multiple terms, every election there are more and more new Londoners to vote for him.
You have to be a blind person to not see what is going on at a national scale. When we are the minority in the entire country... What is going to happen?
That's not racism or fascist. That's a real fear for our grandkids. What are we leaving them?
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In reply to Post #44
Sorry mate I only read the first line but I’m accepting of most things and where my comment of fascism comes from is from the likes of Liebour and Deform as that is what it is coming to and heaven forbid under Farage heaven help us.
Edit - Having read your next line its most certainly not my intention to influence anyone.
Wow to the rest.
Edit - It was never my intention to come across that all are welcome to this country but simply for those fleeing wars or persecution should be allowed to have their voices heard. Note to self read all of the post and not skip through it whilst watching the Ryder cup.
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In reply to Post #42
Like so many people who hold your views, you can't seem to accept anything that is actually going on. You just want to tar everyone who does not agree with you as a fascist.
You made this thread, you made it to vent your views about a certain political party really, you can't stop mentioning them. Do you see me or others trying to influence people who to vote for? No. I've never voted in my life. But a mans vote is his choice, not yours. Your very strange views are what has got this country into the very sorry state that it's in now. You seem to think that WE are the problem.
An illegal immigrant is not 'supposed' as you like to refer to it as. Anyone who enters this country illegally, ie in a boat across the channel is an ILLEGAL immigrant. You and your left leaning friends don't get to decide that definition. It's set in STONE. They are entering the country illegally. End of story. They are mainly young fighting age men. The last war we were involved in was the second gulf war. That finished in 2011. That was fourteen years ago now. So we have boats coming here on an almost daily basis because of some war that ended in 2011??? Where were they in 2013????
You can come up with every excuse under the sun. The people you want to defend so badly would slit your throat as fast as look at you. That's the pure stupidness of your arguments. If your children went to school in a muslim majority school and were being terrorised for being white/British you would not hold these views. If your 13 year old daughter was raped by someone coming from somewhere that they think that kind of **** is okay, you would not hold these views. They are not coming to integrate, they are coming to take over. It's being allowed to happen. For what reason we don't even know yet... But it is happening before our very eyes.
The Egyptian man above, we knew who he was.... There are now tens of thousands here that we don't know who they are. Not until they start beheading young children and live streaming it. Or blowing up our towns & cities.
Who remembers the recent attack on an electricity station near Heathrow? Now read the plans of that Egyptian man above again. That was all covered up pretty fast in the news, like so many other things that are going on in our country now. For religious reasons these people don't like you Tazi. Yes there are many many economic migrants in among these people. But there are also swathes of ex ISIS fighters and the like flooding into Europe. This is a recipe for disaster when British people are fighting to allow it to happen. I'll repeat, these people would have your head as quick as look at you. The purple haired people waving Palestine flags around constantly, do not seem to understand the concept that THEY would be the first to have their heads chopped off. There are numerous examples of aid workers going to Gaza to help... Then ending up being taken hostage or killed in a live stream!
Have a search what they have done to the Yazidi people in their own lands for being of a different religion. Kill the men & boys, take the women & girls as sex slaves. These people are very, very different to us. That has zero to do with any war. They have been trying to invade Europe for many centuries. They seem to have now worked out the way to do it, via our own kindness.
The most dangerous rise in the UK is not fascists, it's the rise of the radical left. That's what has got us into the problems which we are speaking about now. If we were actually full of fascists, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED, would it? It's because we are full of very vocal people with your left leaning views, that now we are suffering these problems. People have been afraid to speak up, in fear of people like you branding them a racist/fascist. That game is clearly ending now all over Europe. People will not accept that crap anymore. It's political correctness gone mad. When I grew up the tories were pretty right wing. That all stopped twenty years ago. Even the supposed right wing party in the UK moved to the left of centre really. So all this vitriol you spout is absolute ********. British people have just got to the stage where they have had enough. The more the radical left try to counter that with 'racist/fascist' talk, the more normal people who don't even vote like myself go the other way. I will vote next time. Just to stop people with your views being in control of this country and selling it down the river.
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In reply to Post #7
Post 6
Quote "The IDF pick different body parts to target on rotation when shooting people trying to get food. They target children’s hands and genitals with their bullets."
Dr Nick Maynard is the person who claims this, nobody else has come forward to say it's true, so it's unverified.
IF it is true, it is disgusting, obviously I do not condone it.
Worth bearing in mind that the occupants of Gaza wanted Hamas as their leader and Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth. If Israel were to lay down their guns now, that's what would happen.
Sept 2023:
Hamas support in Gaza: 42%
Fatah support in Gaza: 26%
Hamas make their manifesto quite clear...did they expect Israel to lay down and take it?
It's all extremely sad, I don't want to take sides but lets see it for what it is. Hamas kicked the hornets nest and the people of Gaza are suffering because of it.
Some religions seem to love war, look at that region. That's why we shouldn't be importing them without proper checks and if they do anything anti-british they should be deported.
Post 12:
Totally agree with everything you've put in there I reckon Scozza 
Post 30:
Quote "I’m not sure people who made their living owning or working in a high street shop would agree."
Tell that to the shop owners after BLM riots. Have you read about where all the BLM money went? Who got to benefit from that? All because a career criminal drug addict died. Look at how the right have behaved after the Charlie Kirk shooting and compare it to the left. The right (or should I say the Centrists...because everything has moved so far left now) are acting like the grown ups.
Post 35:
Quote "Where would they get their id from when they’re fleeing from war?."
They seem to forget to put the women and children in the boat first don't they? I guess they have a different upbringing to us, they despise women. If you've ever holidayed in places like Egypt you get to see what a 'boys club' Islam is. They doing what they want while the woman stay out of site. I don't want England getting like that, and it's already started with the way the young women up north have been treated.
Go find me some evidence of the Islamists looking favourably on gay people please...we're not the extremists. Wake up!
Quote "Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that."
Stop being such a wet wipe, you have no answers. It's all virtue signalling crap you spout in your cuddly little echo bubble of oh so righteous friends. I'd rather be far right than far wrong, especially as far right is now basically just right of central.
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In reply to Post #41
Apologies as I read it the other way in that there could be a refusal of entry if coming from a safe country.
Much rather be labelled a leftist than a fascist so thanks for that.
As for the other points you ask I’ll refer back to them later on.
Edit - Regards where these supposed illegals monies come from to pay the illegal gangs I really have no idea, however be forward thinking, stash some cash to pay the smugglers because the way this country could be heading (dread to think Deform getting in) you’ll need to escape dictatorship.
Leftism or fascism.
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In reply to Post #39
I didn't say they had to stay in the first country they entered. I said the UK had laws saying that if they were coming from a safe country they could refuse entry because of that.
You actually believe that many if thes illegals have gained employment? Until they have been granted asylum they can't.
There is no war going on in France.
And lastly, because it's the same with all of you lefties. "Welcome them with open arms as long as we don't actually have to help them ourselves".
Now answer this as you continually swerve it. If they are fleeing a war torn country, and have no id, where is all the money coming from they pay the people smugglers to get them here? And how are they usually clothed nicely ,with expensive trainers on, carrying smart phones etc? They have all these things but miraculously don't have any form of identification. But are yet m ant to be good and honest people. Explain it.
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Lets just leave this here.
The Egyptian migrant who raped a woman in Hyde Park was suspected Islamist terrorist Abdelrahmen Adnan Abouelela, 42, who was accused of making bombs for the Muslim Brotherhood.
That's a headline from the Daily Telegraph. He was jailed for seven years in 2015 in Egypt for bomb making. He came to the UK on a boat in 2023 to claim asylum. A convicted Islamist terrorist. We let him roam around for 18 months while he lived in a very expensive hotel in London at our expense. He was already found guilty by his own country of manufacturing explosives in a safe house flat to carry out terrorist acts in LONDON. Plans to target electricity pylons & gas pipelines were found.
We knew all of this about him. We put him up in a hotel, let him wander the streets for 18 months. He raped a woman in Hyde Park.
The London mayor, is the former lawyer for the Nation Of Islam. Now he runs London.
Let someone come call me racist. I have a foreign wife. My last seven girlfriends before her were all foreign. I grew up in London. Not some leafy little village where everyone is white. Lots of my friends are black, brown, white, yellow. I'm as far from racist as anyone who wants to defend this shat above could ever be. This is all becoming a very sick joke on the British people. Why are British people defending this stuff? I will never understand. I think that if 20 of these people get housed next door to someone with Tazi's views, they will wake up faster than Usain Bolt running the 100m when it's on their doorstep 24/7. Soon this is going to be all of our problem. We are openly letting in the very people who seek to destroy us. Lawyers from our own country are making an absolute fortune from us defending these people and getting them to stay here. It's become a racket. It's been going on for so many years. The men doing that are now all in power in government. We are in real danger. There is literally 1000's of young men arriving in the UK now. Not women, not children fleeing war.... Fighting age men!
Make it make sense.
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In reply to Post #38
How do you know that they’re not fleeing from war?. I grant all may not be but there will be some.
They do not have to stay in the first safe country that they reach.
Try telling those that have gone onto employment that they do not want to contribute to society/economy so in effect your claim of otherwise there is no basis.
Why would I require them living with me just because I have an opinion that in my view they’re welcome if they’re legit?.
On a lighter note how would you prefer your swan cooked sir?.
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In reply to Post #37
Whats inaccurate then?
As for fixing it? I'm not entirely sure it can be fixed completely. But neither of the main pair are capable that's for sure.
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In reply to Post #36
So many inaccuracies in your post.
So, which government fixes the problems then?.
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In reply to Post #35
They aren't fleeing from war. And they can't get Id but can get a 4 figure sum of money to pay the people smugglers? Behave! If they had a genuine claim then they would enter the country via the correct and legal route,but they don't . I wonder why.......
Uk asylum laws do state that they aren't eligible if entering from another safe country too
I dont have a poor state of living. But I'm sick of grafting my arse off, paying a fortune in taxes to have a big chunk of that go to booking out entire hotels indefinitely for foreign invaders who are coming here causing trouble, sponging everything they can. They have no claim, they don't want to contribute to society.
If they are so welcome by you, how many have you got living with you?
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In reply to Post #34
Where would they get their id from when they’re fleeing from war?.
Makes no difference where they’re coming from because they don’t have to stay or claim asylum in the first country that they reach.
As said previously it’s a political choose regards homelessness etc etc.
It’s all about creating a division where the rich want others to blame those immigrants for your poor state of living.
Anyone would think if we didn’t have them arriving on our shores that we’d be much better off which is laughable considering any monies saved would just go to the governments donars and not the less well off in society.
Handed to them on a plate?. It’s on a plate because of the Tories failing to process their claim. Process them, if not eligible to stay in the country then send them back but if eligible to stay then they can find employment and contribute to the economy.
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In reply to Post #32
They enter the country illegally, that's how. They mostly enter with no id to show who they are. They enter by paying people smugglers to bring them over. They enter from France which is not a dangerous country, nor their country of origin. They are not asylum seekers, they are economic migrants. We are not going out bombing their countries. If we were, why on earth would they want to come here?? They want to come because of the easy life they have handed to them on a plate. Put up in a hotel, food on the table, living comfortably. All while veterans are living in doorways and searching bins for food. Anyone who supports these invaders should be ashamed of themselves
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In reply to Post #32
When did we last bomb France?
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In reply to Post #26
Prioritising illegal imigrants (how are they illegal) over our own people - I don’t see that at all because homelessness etc in this country is a political choice which has existed long before folk come over on boats to escape yet another war torn country that this country decided to bomb. Here’s a novel idea, if the country don’t want immigrants then stop bombing countries.
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In reply to Post #29
They're all as bad as each other.
Here's Farage backtracking like mad: LINKY POO™ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg0l8vr9vo
Amazing how fast this fell off the front page considering his crumpled up face is on it most of the time.
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In reply to Post #29
I’m not sure people who made their living owning or working in a high street shop would agree.
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Do Amazon pay enough tax ?
It depends on your yardstick.
They’ve created a 75k full time jobs here spent a lot of money on infrastructure . From 2024 they announced £40B spend on infrastructure
They are in the top 10 for UK taxpayers
We have a lot to thank them for
One thing for sure Angela Rayner didn’t pay enough…
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In reply to Post #27
I agree Amazon should be paying more tax, but at least they employ a lot of people so aren't solely a drain on UK resources like the new arrivals are
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In reply to Post #26
Smashing up a Pound Savers in the High Street won't get Amazon to pay any of the corporation tax that they owe. Brexit also has a lot to answer for.
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In reply to Post #25
The absolute decline of the country? The prioritizing illegal immigrants over our own people? The total **** show that the UK is becoming? Stuff like that?
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In reply to Post #24
Rioting about what? People need to grow up.
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In reply to Post #22
The frustration is growing and it needs addressing otherwise there will be some major riots and damage coming 
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In reply to Post #22
Not an easy number to measure and they always seem to publish the lower end, regardless of who's protesting. In any case, even if it was 200k, makes no difference - still be ignored.
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In reply to Post #17
Have you seen the footage from non msm sources? There were waaaaay more than 100k there.
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In reply to Post #20
Bring in Trump, and Musk on the space dust
He was bragging the other day, not one immigrant in a month in the states, job done!
So right, so wrong as usual but at least he make things happen, what have we got, Starmer  
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In reply to Post #17
100k isn't all that when you compare it to the million+ that marched against Brexit (and were ignored), and it's in every British persons interest that Space Nazi Musk and his ketamine drenched brain is kept firmly outside of British politics.
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In reply to Post #18
Farcical
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In reply to Post #17
Why was she allowed to resign when any small business man would have been prosecuted for tax evasion. How is he still pm after this latest scandle.
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100,000 protestors today in London
Fight back or die Musk says, I tend to agree. What a shower of ***** this government is
Everyone is pissed off, stop the boats to start with, ain’t sustainable
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Pleased to see Zalanski leader of the greens.
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Ben Habib is in my opinion the most honest and intelligent man in UK politics and I am a member of his advanced party.
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Noted that the Labour government have put it out there regards scrapping council tax and stamp duty and hoping to bring in a house tax instead. It’s one way to get monies out of the middle class after the tories and now Labour screwed over the working class. There will be no alternative shortly to vote for either your party or the greens.
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In reply to Post #7
Genocide and holocaust, Where did you get that nugget??
If you read the bible it clearly state that " isreal will be surrounded by its enemies"
Read: Hamas
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In reply to Post #1
Personally politics is way down my list, full of incompetent tools
The unfortunate side is it does effect me so unfortunately I do have to take notice of some things 
I come from a once mining community area that still burns strong today and let me tell you, its red and it will be red for ever
There a clue in the name, Labour, supposed to support the working man, there's another clue, working man.
What a shower of **** they have turned into, should rename them the monster raving scroungers party, what a bunch of ****s. All they do is focus on taking money off the working man and use it to pay for every scrounger in the ****ing country, immigrants, the lot 
We need somebody to make Britain great again, not another Muppet!
As someone once posted on here, vote Muppet, cause that what you will get 
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In reply to Post #10
Totally agree regarding pay as it’s disgusting that even people that are in work are even homeless and some simply cannot afford to live anymore. This in turn means added stress and a decline in both physical and mental terms yet unfortunately with a broken system they’ve hardly nowhere to turn to. Something has got to change because for some folk the world may as well end tomorrow and that’s not only sad but a true reflection of a broken country.
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In reply to Post #9
Very rarely i comment on politics as I genuinely don't have faith in any politician anymore. They are career people who only vote to better a career now a days, rather then make a decision that better for the people.
For me the power of Unions needs to return. The fact that the vast majority of employers have for more then a decade found it acceptable to give pay increases that are below the rate of inflation is a scandal, these companies are generally turning a regular profit and dividend to shareholder as well as rewarding the big wigs/ owners huge salaries and bonuses.... all while it pushes a bigger division in class in the country.
The result of this what we are seeing now... most of the elite level money is not taxed and taken out of the system before taxation... then the governments (lobbied by most of these businesses) expect the working masses to cover the deficits.
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Regards refugees from around the world I’ve no qualms about providing a safe haven but it’s a bit rich when governments moan about the amount coming over (it’s small compared to what the rest of Europe takes in) when taking into consideration that they’re complicit in making such people scared and homeless. Here’s a novel idea stop bombing such countries then.
Just hope your party make some inroads into peace around the world and provide something very much needed in making a difference to those that need it.
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In reply to Post #7
And this is the problem. We make it so attractive for them to want to cross the channel. The world is a very big place, we need to make the UK less attractive to them all. Uk politics should begin in the uk
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In reply to Post #6
Thanks.
From my perspective, what’s happening in Gaza is more important than anything else right now - a modern day holocaust. The IDF pick different body parts to target on rotation when shooting people trying to get food. They target children’s hands and genitals with their bullets. We have a duty as human beings to oppose that. Domestically, we should be doing whatever we can to avoid adding another 2 million refugees to the pool of people who would cross the channel if displaced from their own country. Labour, Tories, Reform - all punching downwards! Oligarchs, billionaires and shady media moguls are the people that should have a light shone on them, not some poor f*cker with bare feet begging for water.
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In reply to Post #5
With respect I think priorities within our own country should be our main aim, not conflicts elsewhere around the world. It's not right what's happening over there of course, but it's also not down to us to sort it out
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In reply to Post #4
This new party are the only ones who have said they will call out and directly oppose the genocide that’s being committed by Israel; and they won’t be up their necks in Israeli money and corruption like Labour and the Tories are either.
The Israeli plan to empty Gaza equates to about 2 million refugees. I’d be more concerned about stopping this above anything else if migration is your biggest concern.
Environmental prioritisation, ending corporate tax evasion and putting utility companies under public ownership would be next.
FWIW, Corbyn very unlikely to lead that new party, he’s too old.
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In reply to Post #1
I think Corbyn would open up the borders more not less, and that's the single fastest way to head towards the "third world country" you mention. We definitely need something different to what we've had, but he ain't it imo
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In reply to Post #2
Indeed the country is in a bad state but surely it cannot be allowed to continue as it is.
A new direction is needed.
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In reply to Post #1
I really cannot see any one worth voting for now or in the future.
It’s all just lip service, broken promises or lies
What a sad state for a country to be in…
But it could be worse we could have trump or putin
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With 14 years of Tory rule and for the first 12 months of Labour a certain number of working class now live in poverty.
Upcoming budget will no doubt see the working class and the middle class being taxed even more as Reeves will not bring in a wealth tax.
Both the working and middle class have to come together or it’ll only be a matter of time before the middle class are also living beyond their means.
I do know a great deal about politics but surely this will would mean that your party would start to gain the middle class votes.
Tories, Labour (sorry blue Tories) then repeat to fade. Reform offer nothing only hate and division, do not care about the working class and only there to serve their rich donors.
Someone has to step up and drag this country from becoming a third world country (if it isn’t already) and I’m hoping (and I’m sure the youth of today) are hoping that your party will provide hope as Heaven knows this country badly needs something different.
Personally speaking I like Corbyn and Zarah and there are a few other politicians who have morals too who will hopefully join up with them.
Thoughts much appreciated.
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