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LeighamFox
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   Old Thread  #58 30 Sept 2025 at 7.08am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #57
I've worked on imports for a tooling company and this is how stupid the laws are.

A forged taper shank drill imported from India but has no point on it but otherwise all made in India.

Bring it into the UK put it on a grinder and it now has a point and can be sold as quality made British tooling.

So putting a union jack on an item means nothing and it's not illegal if the product isn't the finished article when it arrives in the UK.
kizzi
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   Old Thread  #57 28 Sept 2025 at 9.30pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
My understanding is that the only things that Korda produce in the UK are leads, PVA, and the things from JAG (and possibly Carp Porter).

But at least they never covered their gear in Union Jacks and pretended it was made here!
LeighamFox
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   Old Thread  #56 28 Sept 2025 at 2.41pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
Nice to see someone that thinks the same. Korda, nash and Fox make nothing all branded for them by the Chinese. Shimano and Diawa make there own top end but the low end is Chinese and branded.


If only those that say don't buy cheap Chinese ***** only knew the truth.
whataclonker
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whataclonker
   Old Thread  #55 28 Sept 2025 at 12.51pm  0  Login    Register
I thought that mono is made all around the world? Germany, Japan & USA in particular, I would expect to be high quality. The vast majority of our tackle is manufactured in China though, & China is more than capable of producing very high end products, as well as low end crap - you get what you pay for, or what Korda (or whoever) pays for..

I haven't used Kaizen mono but going by Korda's past record I'd expect it to be excellent.

If it's a good product, then I don't really care where it's made TBH.

essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #54 28 Sept 2025 at 9.57am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #53
I'm sure I read somewhere a while ago that there were only three companies in the world that actually produce nylon monofilament line.
Not sure if that's still true, but angling is a way smaller market worldwide than most people realise.
Singlebleep
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Singlebleep
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   Old Thread  #53 27 Sept 2025 at 6.59pm  1  Login    Register
Has anyone ever seen the Korda factory where they make the rods, hooks, bivvies, plastic terminal tackle, multiple other items and now line and bite alarms? If so it must be ****ing huge covering acres and acres of prime real estate.

No course you haven’t.

Korda have not produced anything themselves since Danny was knocking out leads in his kitchen.

This line - good or bad is manufactured at arms length in China. It at best has been made to spec, at middling as been tweaked from something else, at worst is the same as other lines produced by a plastics factory also churning out garden furniture.

If it’s the first instance that it’s all new, singing and dancing it will go the way of other products - hellishly expensive to pay for the in the main media advertising campaign, until the Chinese factory produces the same line after the exclusivity agreement, or more likely, another company ‘accidently’ start producing the same stuff at a cheaper price until they get the market share then increase the price.

If it’s good then use it until the next big thing comes along, only to be undercut by a clone, but don’t get caught up in the hype.
LeighamFox
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   Old Thread  #52 27 Sept 2025 at 6.22pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #51
Ill soak it for an hour before spooling up. When on the bank last cast por some on before winding in the again once wound in.

Used to use it on 2.5lb and 3 and 4lb line when match fishing.
RKB
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   Old Thread  #51 27 Sept 2025 at 5.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #50
Just pour over the spool?
LeighamFox
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   Old Thread  #50 27 Sept 2025 at 4.57pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #49
Weak solution of water and washing up liquid on new line takes away the oils from production. Always poor some on at the end of a session to clean the line. It then cuts through the surface tension so much easier.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #49 27 Sept 2025 at 11.23am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #48
It sinks very quickly,I has took a couple of trips though.I was a bit concerned at first as it did seem to take a bit longer than im used to.Im really impressed with everything about it so far
Off_Radar
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   Old Thread  #48 27 Sept 2025 at 11.15am  0  Login    Register
How’s does the Kaizen mono sink? I’ve not seen anyone mention it yet.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #47 20 Sept 2025 at 7.20pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #46
Well now its ****
Mji1994
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Mji1994
   Old Thread  #46 20 Sept 2025 at 4.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #45
This was the comment from Instagram.

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braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #45 18 Sept 2025 at 11.17am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #41
They have changed something on it,the ESP rep has said it and im sure they admitted it on facebook
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #44 18 Sept 2025 at 11.16am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #43
Im on the green and the lake im on is proper weedy,ive caught a few fish since been on it so must be ok.
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #43 18 Sept 2025 at 11.05am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #42
To humans, obviously no idea how a carp sees these things, it may not make much difference, but confidence is key and I think it does make a difference, in certain situations.
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #42 18 Sept 2025 at 11.00am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #40
To humans or carp?
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #41 18 Sept 2025 at 9.47am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
I'll definitely give it a go for next season. I agree with you, the Synchro XT i spooled with this season is not behaving anywhere near as well as it has historically and I've been a huge fan and advocate of it for years! Something must have changed in the production as I've seen plenty of you mentioning it on here, but I was sceptical until I experienced it myself
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #40 18 Sept 2025 at 9.27am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
Thanks Braders.

What's its visibility like in the water? Do you know?
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #39 18 Sept 2025 at 0.55am  1  Login    Register
Something changed with the syncro xt,the kaizen is far better imo.It casts better,abrasion resistance is superb and can feel the lead down easier.Unless something changes after a few trips I will be staying on the kaizen,I had a few fish on it and so far it is still straight and limp with no coiling
chrispfox
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chrispfox
   Old Thread  #38 17 Sept 2025 at 12.51pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #37
I'm a big fan of Syncro XT and haven't had the issues that others have had with it. But decided to respool the 0.40 Syncro with the Kaizen 0.38 as I need a bit more distance.
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #37 17 Sept 2025 at 12.45pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #36
Interested in this as well as I've been a long term user of Synchro but this season having far more issues with it than before so seriously considering a switch for next season
Smashing_It
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Smashing_It
   Old Thread  #36 17 Sept 2025 at 12.36pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #35
Better than the ESP Syncro XT, which I noticed you was a big fan of on another thread some time back?

Looking for options myself, as per my 'best mono' thread, so interested in your opinion between the pair.
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #35 17 Sept 2025 at 11.55am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
Its superb,im on a really weedy lake with big beds of lillies.I had a carp take me through loads of weed and two sets of lillies.Fish was landed safely and the line was fine,I checked it all after and could not see or feel one bit of damage.Im seriously impressed with it so far,been out three times now and seems to be getting better as bedded in,im on the 0.38mm
Goldeneye
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Goldeneye
   Old Thread  #34 17 Sept 2025 at 8.23am  0  Login    Register
Any feedback on the abrasion resistance of this line?

The claims do sound good...
JamieH
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   Old Thread  #33 26 Aug 2025 at 10.05pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
I been a GT HD user for many years and had no real reason to change. But got bedazzled by Damian Clarke’s passionate review on a recent podcast, so I thought I’d give it a whirl as I needed to re spool anyway.

Have to say - I am impressed with it.
It does knot down really well and also sinks relatively well. It seems durable enough also. Has handled itself well with fish getting weeded up with hardly any coil up afterwards. IMO, HD is a slight better caster when fishing over 90+ yards, but not a lot in it. Overall I am happy with it and can recommend if someone is looking for a new line. Will continue to be using it for the foreseeable. Well done Korda!
zinno
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   Old Thread  #32 26 Aug 2025 at 8.32pm  0  Login    Register
Today I bought 1 Okuma Obsedian to try out.

New line on it

The shop owner told me that the Kaizen is more of a casting line, also very strong on the knot and good abrasion resistance, with the big difference vs the Touchdown being that the Touchdown sinks better and faster, so went with the Touchdown again since throwing far is no longer necessary (bait boat)

He also suggested Kryston Oblivion Super Grade as an alternative to both, maby gonne try that one if a buy more Obsedians if i like it
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #31 24 Aug 2025 at 11.11am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #30
ive been using Technium since early 2000s (silver tin days) and tbh, regardless of how its been packaged/labeled ive never noticed any difference (ive always used 12lb/0.33mm/0.32mm or 8lb/0.26mm ..... I didnt get on with the 15lb version)
colors
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colors
   Old Thread  #30 24 Aug 2025 at 5.22am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
is the technium as good as it was when it first came out? I know it changed a few years back and was nothing like the original but then it was discontinued and I've not tried it since it came back on sale
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #29 23 Aug 2025 at 5.27pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #28
im a huge fan of techium. Would be great if something similar came out. But Kaizen is a different colour, different diameters, and not a 3 core mono so it doesnt have a lot in common with Technium
colors
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colors
   Old Thread  #28 23 Aug 2025 at 4.58pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
Can't be like subline, that stuff had more stretch than a pole elastic.

I'm hoping the kaizen is like the original technium that came in the metal tin. For some reason I remember it said on the tin that technium has 12% stretch . Be interested to know if korda would say what % stretch kaizen has
Jimmers532
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   Old Thread  #27 22 Aug 2025 at 8.30pm  1  Login    Register
How are people finding the kaizen line any good ?
dave_e
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dave_e
   Old Thread  #26 12 Aug 2025 at 10.18pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Thanks think i will try it out
AndyCarper82
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AndyCarper82
   Old Thread  #25 12 Aug 2025 at 8.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
I needed to respool and picked up some 0.38... Subline in new packaging? Spooled up, seems okay.
pearbo
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pearbo
   Old Thread  #24 12 Aug 2025 at 8.46pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #22
Had 11 up to about 15lb, felt ok, I’d have liked to have given it the biggun but not really possible there. Majority of my angling is 15 wraps or less.
chewbakka
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chewbakka
   Old Thread  #23 12 Aug 2025 at 7.34pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
dave_e
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dave_e
   Old Thread  #22 12 Aug 2025 at 7.10pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
Out of interest did you play a fish on it?
Thanks
pearbo
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pearbo
   Old Thread  #21 12 Aug 2025 at 10.29am  1  Login    Register
Used the 15lb for the first time this weekend, only at 15 wraps but felt like cotton compared to the cm90 I had on, cast better than it to, felt nice to touch and supple. It’ll certainly do for a while.
Busted
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   Old Thread  #19 8 Aug 2025 at 11.19am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #18
Interesting that its low stretch compared to technium. I always found that to be pretty low stretch
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #18 7 Aug 2025 at 10.24pm  0  Login    Register
Out of curiosity I picked up a spool of 15lb/0.35mm from my local tackle shop.

After cutting off a 1m length and having a play I was pretty impressed - it does seem very limp for the diameter, although does look/feel a bit thicker than 0.35mm to my eye, and very low stretch compared to the technium I had on my spools.

I needed to respool owing to a incident with a paddle boat so decided to give the Kaizen a go and spooling it via a pencil through the spool it has gone on beautifully. Will hopefully get out Saturday night and test it in anger on but so far it seems a good product.
smellyfisherman
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   Old Thread  #17 7 Aug 2025 at 4.26pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
That will be the continuous improvement that the Kaizen name represents
Exiledcarper
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Exiledcarper
   Old Thread  #16 7 Aug 2025 at 3.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
" impressive breaking strain to diameter ratio ", per the advertising spiel.
What, you mean exactly the same as almost every other mono on the market ?
Talk about spin.....
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #15 4 Aug 2025 at 10.15pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #12
Now doing 600M bulk spools for £49.99 so vaguely better value! TBF its an excellent product IMO . . .if you like fishing slack lines with minimal faff its the business!
stuart666
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stuart666
   Old Thread  #14 4 Aug 2025 at 5.06pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Every manufactures say the same about all their lines a bit like every 3.75lb rod will cast to the horizon yet still lovely to play fish on.
bentipping
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bentipping
   Old Thread  #13 4 Aug 2025 at 3.21pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #11
yes of course, but he doesn't strike me as someone who would push or use something unless it was decent. Clearly he's not going to say it's crap but you don't hear or see him pushing product do you? Not like Danny etc. Just my opinion.
Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #12 4 Aug 2025 at 3.10pm  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #9
Crikey, £32 for 250m for a hybrid line......PB sure know how to charge!
phil090781
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   Old Thread  #11 4 Aug 2025 at 2.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #6
You know he owns the company right? Of course he’s going to push it.
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #9 4 Aug 2025 at 10.04am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Didn't say it sunk well or did they (may not have been listening)?
Honestly check out PB Hybron - def does what it says on the tin (I should be sponsored by them lol!)
Baitman
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Baitman
   Old Thread  #8 4 Aug 2025 at 9.28am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
Sounds like the same blurb off the longchuck stuff
RKB
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   Old Thread  #7 4 Aug 2025 at 9.19am  0  Login    Register
Hopefully this is rebranded CM90!
bentipping
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bentipping
   Old Thread  #6 4 Aug 2025 at 8.59am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #5
They talked about it on the recent Korda uncut podcast. Damian in particular had high praise for it and I don't see him as someone who would push something he doesn't believe in. No doubt worth a look next time you need to change your line.
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #5 3 Aug 2025 at 9.46pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #2
Yeah the advertising gives the impression that it's revolutionary- less stretch then fluoro, super supple/limp, good abrasion resistance, etc.

Sounds a bit too good to be true hence peeking my interest!
g4fne
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g4fne
   Old Thread  #4 3 Aug 2025 at 6.32pm  2  Login    Register
I was in a tackle shop at the weekend and this Kaizen line was flying off the shelves. Love/hate them, the power of Korda's name really is head/shoulders above anyone else.
kizzi
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   Old Thread  #3 3 Aug 2025 at 5.33pm  2  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
They must be overhyping it. Ask yourself this, when was your mainline last really a problem? And when it was, would a mono (any mono) have been the answer?

I have used Sub line, Kontour, and Touchdown. All were good, I’d happily use any of them again, none fundamentally changed my results.
Belch
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Belch
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   Old Thread  #2 3 Aug 2025 at 1.05pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #1
Does look interesting - if its as good as they're plugging (all round line) its prob worth a punt . . .however until we get reviews I'll be sticking with Hybron!
Jamesvg
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Jamesvg
   Old Thread  #1 2 Aug 2025 at 11.30pm  0  Login    Register
Has anyone got their hands on this/used it during testing?

If so what are you overall first impressions? Any particular stand out features?

Cheers,
James.
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