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In reply to Post #44
And yet you have plenty of space inside to the straight sides/back. The Trakker 150 is barely bigger inside, search for Frontier on this forum there's a photo of me with the same setup in a Frontier XD vs a Trakker 150.
The Trakker 150 is a lot bigger on the outside but not on the inside compared to the Frontier XD/XL.
Edit:Link
Post 504: Xd vs Termpest150
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In reply to Post #43
jesus.. that is a big weight for a bivvy, I have an xd which is like carrying a body bag, an extra 5kg for the new 1 would need foundations digging in 
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In reply to Post #43
Going off fox’s sizes even the xl version is smaller than a standard pioneer and nearly the same depth a ultralite. I thought it would of been on par with a pio 150 or tempest 150 size wise.
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In reply to Post #32
It looks like the xl is around 5 to 6kg heavier than the xd, around 21kg with everything in the bag
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In reply to Post #41
I can see that. I have the original Frontier from the early 0's and it is a heavy old thing but I still sometimes take it for the odd 24 hour, I have the Trakker V2 Air for shorter sessions as it's the thing most like my Fox Evo size wise if not in flexibility height wise, in fact I view it more as a rigid brolly.
The one thing I hate about both is lack of ventilation in hot summer temps and that's the only reason I've been considering the newer Frontier, I ruled the Trakker out on Price and I'm tempted by the Wychwood Epic.
Like has been mentioned I wonder if the previous models extension fits the Mk2 as they seem to be very similar in size, could be a saving to be made if so.
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In reply to Post #32
I sold my x because of the weight of it,was like a body bag....doest suit my 24 hr sessions at all
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Never owned a fox bivvy since the original evolution but that looks very good. After seeing my mates trakker rs bivvy they should be very worried as i didnt rate it at all. The material looks thin and hate the collars on the ribs and all those eyelets inside hurt your eyes, no idea why there are so many.
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It genuinely hurts my head trying to keep up with these fan out style bivvies. So many models, sizes, add ons etc ..... And for me far to many moving parts that can/will go wrong!
Long live the pramhood! 😁
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3 years i have my Frontier now, zero problems with the block, also see no reason to get the V2.
Maby in a few years i will get the v3 or v4
Saw a few with bars popping out the block but this was 100% user error aka no clue how to prober setup/ takedown
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In reply to Post #36
For anyone having issues with the front arms popping out of the block check the allen bolts in the block are all tight. Mine was having this issue and they were all loose, tightened them up and no more probs so far.
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In reply to Post #33
Includes the peak as well..not a bad price imo
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In reply to Post #31
I think the fact the boss now has a lockable position for the 2 outer ribs should ensure that when raising the front ribs you know it’s extended into the correct position meaning no more user error 
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In reply to Post #29
It looks very good in the video, the quick spring together poles and locking system looks a great upgrade.
My frontier x is still going strong 3 years in and used 2 nights every week. I wont be rushing to replace it.
£700 for the new X isnt to bad, £150 more than i paid for my FX with peak.
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Is it any lighter do we know?
That's the only thing that I hate about my Frontier is the weight of the thing. Other than that I can't fault it.
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I wonder if the 2 outer front ribs that push up and click in will be any better than the V1 ones as there were quite a few reports of failures.
Pricing, the XL extension for eg has a RRP of £599 (olive) according to TFT, to me that's a bit much, almost £1500 for a full system! (£1349 Olive)
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In reply to Post #29
That’s very keen indeed!
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In reply to Post #28
The prices are very keen imo, might have taken note of the Wychwood Epic
RRP F £599, FX £699, FXL £749, That's olive add £50 for camo each size.
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In reply to Post #26
What is the price of the new fox frontier?
I assume all these update come with a modified price tag as well
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In reply to Post #26
Totally agree Andy 
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In reply to Post #25
trakker took alot of business away from themselves with the price of the rs range..theyre taking the piss big time...
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The boss self locking is a great idea. I can see this taking a lot of business from Trakkers Tempest!
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In reply to Post #22
And youtube now too
LINKY POO™ https://youtu.be/_LZ95evCHIQ?si=C4jIJQbS2kxmh87z
Do we think the old deluxe extensions fit the new models? Same dimensions on the new so i can't imagine they wouldn't, just looks like a slight colour difference on the green. (Cammo obviously not even close)
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In reply to Post #22
Looks good to me though will hang off a bit and see if any 'issues' arise with it. One thing they should have done and I think 'ultimate' can be challenged, velcro tabs to open the vents so you don't have to peg them out.
EDIT, and don't like the way they've forgotten the original, this is V3 not 2
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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17WPTM9e1m/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Looks awesome with some very good upgrades to the boss and poles. I like the fact you get the skull cap with it too.
Out with the old and in with the new me thinks!
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In reply to Post #20
Doesn't having letter box opening on a Mozzy Mesh completely defeat the whole purpose of having a Mozzy Mesh
Couldn't agree more. Perhaps it's for vision when in use as ventilation instead of mozzies, or maybe for during the day when there's less of them about.
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From their website on the new accessories:
Frontier II - Camo Mozzy Mesh
Full zip in Camo Mozzy Mesh Panel now features 2 way double zip to allow “letter box” style opening. Compatible with the Deluxe Wrap
Doesn't having letter box opening on a Mozzy Mesh completely defeat the whole purpose of having a Mozzy Mesh?
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In reply to Post #18
Shame they haven't uploaded any videos on youtube at the same time, I suppose they'll come, seems a bit of a disjointed launch to me, same with the e-mails this morning. Looks like I'd only consider the Xl but saying height 165 doesn't really say what the door height is.
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In reply to Post #16
Later this year,around September/October ive heard.This is Fox though so could well be next spring,im waiting on the new duralite bed
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Anyone any more info on a new one coming?
Shops are clearing the decks of stock so presume news must be imminent
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In reply to Post #10
Yes and with mine its always been the left of the front 3 poles, i've slightly tightened the alan screws on the block now so hopefully cures it.
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In reply to Post #10
Mine is the xd which I only use for longer sessions and france but its happened 3 times now and its a bar steward to get back in lol. Maybe the smaller versions are ok
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Have not experienced this issue with either an "X" or a "Lite". I can't see how it could happen, provided everything is in order and it's actually assembled properly.
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In reply to Post #4
i had that happen to mine, it probaley was caused by human error.
Although i have another one now i havent had any problems with it at all. im also careful not to get any dirt or crud into the block when setting up or packing down.
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In reply to Post #10
The front 3.
Daz
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In reply to Post #4
I''ve got a Frontier V2 - should i be worried?
What do you mean by the front poles popping out? I've not used mine a great deal so can't really picture it. Do you mean the last 2 you do after the others have clicked in?
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In reply to Post #8
Have to wait for the Chinese CAD designer first 🤣🤣
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In reply to Post #7
No reason for a redesign of the block in that case, be interesting to see if they do.
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In reply to Post #4
Block design is fine, the poles popping out is user error…..
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In reply to Post #1
Yes there is a new version coming out,I wouldn't hold your breath with Fox on a release date though
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In reply to Post #4
the need for storm poles in the front would be alot better too...just dont think you cant beat the tempest in design
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I'd imagine they are changing the block design, hopefully the front bars won't pop out so easily....
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In reply to Post #2
fair point V3 it is...
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In reply to Post #1
Its been mentioned on here the present one is being discontinued.
The new one will be the V3 by the way, V2 is the present and V1 was from the early 0's. I still use the V1.
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Hi Heard a rumour Fox has a new frontier ready for release in the autumn anyone heard this and have any more info on "improvements" other than more money?
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