|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #67
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #67
Unfortunately nothing exciting like a grenade thrown like in the book 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #69
I’m guessing that it did not go well!
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #67
Thank god I'm not alone. I have been sitting in front of my computer for a fortnight refreshing this page every ten seconds. We demand and deserve an answer.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #67
Looks like they took the pulting to death with Cell boilies in the lake car park option. Let this be a warning to us all..  
|
|
|
|
Come on then, what’s happened? This is like a chapter out of ‘The Syndicate’.
Has Vinnie been found in a ditch, stabbed to death by his own engraved spoon?
Is it true that Tom Watt is on the committee?
Is Rambo involved in the background?
I need to know 
|
|
|
|
If there's photo evidence that the fish was retained for 50 mins and this is against the rules of the water then you just need to suck it up and plead guilty. If there isn't any then you can claim the 30 mins. End off.
You just need to accept the outcome of your chat with the club. 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #64
You love my arse 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #62
He wouldn’t get his arse through the door 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #60
Sold it me….As one would expect paid extra for the stains.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #61
Come on you two!
Just get a room
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #60
I am now the good weather is here,you still want the pics you asked me for 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #58
Sounds worthy to me 
You still wearing the flouro pink mankini?
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #58
Heard worse punishments
Could have been made to watch Luton or Watford…..
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #57
They've told him his punishment,he's got wear a man utd shirt for six months.If he repeats the offence again they'll make him go to Old Trafford,ive heard he's handed his membership in instead
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #46
So what’s the outcome Vinnie, is everything good? 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #7
I'd get agreement at the committee meeting what time you had the fish, and then show from the camera/phone the time/date stamp from photo's to disprove this guys claims...
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #53
Well into cruel and unusual territory
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #53
No need for that sort of punishment
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #50
A weekends fishing tuition with Uncle Jim 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #49
Pulted to death in the car park with Cell boilies as a warning to the others. We need to make an example so no one else makes the same mistake.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #50
It's a very good long established club with both good course and carp fishing and a large membership so you always get a bit of back biting in any club of it's size. Just been informed they guy that was my best man wasn't banned at all but choose not to renew his memship after his son was banned and that wasn't for life either.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #49
I heard he was gagged and bound,thrown in the dungeon to rot.I just don't get why we live with these rats in society,surely the other member could of just had a quiet word.I hate all this grassing on people,I work with lads who are terrible for it.What happened to talking like men and sorting things out like adults.Sorry for the rant but hate ****ing grasses and sneaky slimy *******s
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #48
Can't respond as he faced a firing squad at dawn.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #45
How did you get on,didn't you have to go see them yesterday
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #46
Just say what you’ve typed above and hold your hands up. They’ll reprimand you less if you’re just straight up I’d imagine.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #44
100%, but prodding the wasps nest will only aggravate them and more then likely make it worse
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #43
No that’s fair enough, see all point. Just checked, there isn’t a specified time just ‘to allow for photography equipment to be set up’ which don’t get me wrong, it was longer then that. The recasting rule doesn’t apply as 1. It’s not my places rules and 2. I didn’t recast as I was packing up to go to work.
I was waiting for my mate to come down to assist, but we got our wires crossed, not that I can’t do it on my own, but a hand especially this time of year is always handy.
My pics are probably done within 15mins normally, and I do self takes any time of day/night. So there wasn’t no need for photography ‘vain’ness’ to delay it apart from awaiting a hand and resting the fish. Oh well, will air my opinions and reasonings and see what backlash I get.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
If it’s a match type venue committee
You can Just argue the case that it’s 1 fish in 1 net for half an hour rather than 100lb for 5 hours.
Where’s the difference?
If you were using a match pan net for the resting then you could probably say you were in the wrong
But a deep carp net nahh.
Only thing you have atm is the Shelley grey arguments going on..
|
|
|
|
It’s silly and petit but yes I think you are wrong on a couple of counts.
Firstly the rules - no matter how ridiculous they are are in there for all to see and understand.
Like someone else has said - recovery time - in a net - I’m sorry but not for me - these are wild creatures not petulant kids - the stress of hooking and playing especially this time of year is enough- if you want a photo - take it. Photos after a rest IMO are much worse and they get that second wind.
This isn’t a preaching post as I have had a fish in the net for probably 30 mins on a couple of occasions, both time for my vanity - awaiting someone to take a quick snap for special fish, it wasn’t to let them recover.
I rarely take photos or weight fish but absolutely each to their own and it amazing me that people still want to see angling celebs with 17lb simmos and a woolly sponsors hat on in July! I have held fish upright in the water (sling) to recover and await that kick, but retaining in the confines of a mesh - is (in my case) for my benefit not the fish.
Like I say petty little squealers are everywhere and I very much doubt it was reported regards concern for the fish! But 15 mins and no recasting sounds a reasonable club rule that you’ve doubled. Soz.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #41
Sounds like a typical club where success breeds jealously tbh
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #40
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #29
Quote... You should do a spoon with a snake on and present it to the grassing ****er
Vinnie, can you do me a couple of spoons with little rats on, maybe hiding in the shadows? Gifts for a couple of forum members. 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #27
It's just not Angling.. every walk of life there's a few slippery ****s who see nothing wrong in throwing someone under the bus. Your usually find it helps in covering up there own short Commings
If you've retained a fish for a bit longer than the rules dictate. Hold your hands up.. if the committee are half reasonable they will see no real harm has been done and put you on the naughty step for half an hour..
Next time your down the pond and you see Bobby smalls and his Opo. Don't forget to give them the biggest smile as you walk on by. Actions will definitely speak louder than words in this instance...
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #36
Yeah, think it states 15 mins, il check before I go to my meeting. But some ppl have had fish for hours to do pics. Not that’s an excuse of course
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #36
oops posted in error
|
|
|
|
|
Had you broken any water/club rules ?
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #24
I'm just saying what I'm comfortable with, I might be wrong the way I do things.
In no way am I saying you should do the same Vinnie, you should do what you're comfortable with.
As for those that reported you, total knobheads 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #29
Yeah mate 😂😂😂😂
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #30
Yeah that’s going to be one of my points. No doubt they have all made their mind up of my fate, but we will see come Monday
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #23
I'd totally agree with you. That said I don't think the 30 minutes Vinnie kept the fish would do any harm, especially this time of year.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17
Just show them the night shots, that should answer their questions, why else would you do them
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #27
You should do a spoon with a snake on and present it to the grassing ****er
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #27
Same in a lot of big clubs, I've known the current chairman of that place for fifty years and bought a few motorbikes from the dealers he worked at but not been a member for years . The guy that was my best man forty years ago was a member but both him and his son are banned from there for life.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #26
From what Iv heard, pictures were sent to a Baliff. I mean, if you have an issue, you’d say something? If I saw something that bothered me I’d go and have a word to the person or offer to help. Pisses me off to be honest, to much back stabbing slagging ppl off instead of saying it to your face
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #24
A few bailiffs on there full of themselves and they will tell lies to big themselves up.
|
|
|
|
|
Our club has a rule that you cannot recast a rod until the fish is returned, and all fish must be returned as soon as possible. Personally I always put them back within a few minutes, I would only photograph a special fish or a new p.b .
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #23
Not at all mate, I don’t think I’m right, I’m an opinionated little Fokker, but will always listen to other ppls views. I do what I think best, but that doesn’t mean I’m right. At the end of the day, we whack a hook in it gob, reel them in, if you don’t take a pic, imho what’s the point of putting them through it. Just me of course
|
|
|
|
Maybe this is controversial nowadays but I don't go in for this destressing before taking a photo.
My reasoning is the fish stressed when it has been netted, so immediately in this order.
I get it out of the water, take a quick photo, weight it and put it back.
If the photo is not perfect then so be it.
If the fish is flapping like mad I might even dispense with the photo.
I've always done this and so have many others. I can't see the point of resting a stressed fish only to stress it again for a photo and weighing session.
Look at my profile pic, I have my tin hat so am ready for the backlash
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #11
15 mins by memory. But I’m not being funny, normally I am bang on organised, I think I’d just about make that. I get rules are rules, but fish welfare comes first and I checked on it every 5 mins to make sure it was fine, but hey ho
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #19
No comment
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #14
I get that, they are not spawning, otherwise I wouldn’t be fishing for them. But if that was the case, If it wasn’t for a pic, I wouldn’t put them through the ordeal of hooking them, ‘dragging’ them in just to let them go. Imho that’s pointless (Just my humble opinion of course)
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #17
Club water over the road from Vinny ?
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #16
Normally I get them in and out asap, but this time of year I think is a bit different in regards to recovery time
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #16
The thing is, Iv had some special ones and instead of waiting a few hours, done self takes at night. I can get good pics regardless of times so retaining a fish isn’t needed for my own vanity. It was merely for a. Give the fish some rest and b. For my mate to give me a hand if needed. It wasn’t a big fish, but Nether the less they all deserve the same amount of care
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5
You seem like a honourable man Vinnie but there’s your problem, somebody reported you for having it in the net for 50 minutes, you either did or did not.
TBH there are a lot of people on the banks nowadays and some for me don’t appreciate their quarry as they should. I have always tried to get the pictures done as soon as possible and get the fish back in the water.
And talking of dickheads, when we can finally talk to carp and agree that they don’t mind been kept in a net for long periods of time because somebody says it’s alright then for me, it’s return “within reason” the waters should put their stance on that for me
I fished one water with some old fish that’s was days only and they opened it up to nights, in typical desperation for the right shot, I saw people with them in slings for up to 4 hours, and well into day light because they had gone back to bed, muppets
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #6
|
|
|
|
I'm not sure what to say really, but given the fact fish are about to, will be, or have spawned and the hot weather recently, I'd make sure the fish was recovered and let it go asap, never mind a pic.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #12
I would say a little too long for my liking personally.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Sounds like you did the right thing.
|
|
| | | Cam | | Posts: 6522 |  | | MODERATOR | |
|
In reply to Post #1
Is there anything in the rules regarding retaining/returning fish for any amount of time?
I'm not doubting you at all Vinnie. I suspect you would always do the right thing and I think you did here.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5
sounds like a green eyed monster without a back bone to come and speak to you directly.
I would be pointing out to the committee that whoever phoned didn't care that much about the fish otherwise they would have checked to see if all was ok
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #7
Sounds fine to me but depends upon club rules I suppose.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Seems fine to be - some consideration was given to the fish to recover before pictures .
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #6
Got to go to a committee meeting
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #5
What did the bailiff say and you always get one scozza (dickhead) on a water
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #4
Oh yes. Someone phoned up to the Baliff and said I’d had it in the net for 50 mins!! The funny thing is, Iv had some lovely fish at night and always done night shots to save putting the fish out waiting till morning!
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Can't see nothing wrong in that.. have the carp police on your lake been making themselves busy, then.. 
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
Sensible approach imo.
|
|
|
|
In reply to Post #1
I don't see anything wrong with it personally
|
|
|
|
What’s ppls views on this as curious if I’m In the wrong…
Had a fish at 7.40 am, left it in the net, unhooked it and checked on it every 5mins to make sure it wasn’t in distress and ok, leaving it 30 mins to de stress before doing pics.
Iv always thought this was a sensible thing to do. I’m not a photo whore as I do self takes and do them any time of night. Loads of top anglers I see do this. If it peak of day in boiling sun surrounded by weed then I’d understand or If it was spawned up (none of the above applies in this case)
Thoughts
|
|
