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In reply to Post #88
Cars were EV before they were ICE lol!
Average uk trip is 19 miles per day. Why is range an issue? And how often do people do 200 mile plus trips without stopping for a pee?
Charging infrastructure - I’ve never had to wait for a public charge, but rarely use them as I charge at home. Appreciate people without drives/garages may have an issue, which is why my daughter doesn’t have one and I said they aren’t for everyone. But it’s really not the problem people make out.
But like I said, most people who are against don’t have one. By and large people that have wouldn’t go back. I remember all the arguments that people were coming out with when they were trying to get people into diseasel. We don’t like change……
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In reply to Post #86
My view is EV was simply launched too soon, but was their ever a right time. I'm not anti EV in any way, I just don't like the way it's been rammed down our throats and for the moment it's not where it should be, certainly range wise for me personally.
Infrastructure POV, it's not there by a long way. I'm talking the cable in the street, it was never envisaged to have such a draw as EV vehicles place on it.
EV's the green alternatiive, electricity generated by Drax using Canadian timber but because it's wood it's sustainable...twaddle.
Children mining the ores in African countries, much like for mobile phones...but strangley it rarely gets posted about, too inconvenient.
New sources required for those ores..we'll deep sea dredge where we havn't even been.
It doesn't sit easily with me for the mo, this energy Utopia, especially as we contribute, what is it 1-1.1% to overall global emissions, but every little helps.
I did have our VW Sharan LPG converted years ago, liked it, even in Europe it was readily available on the motorways and you could always flick the switch back to normal fuel.
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In reply to Post #86
Hydrogen combustion engines are actually a better idea, normal engines pretty much just mapped differently. Hydrogen isn’t as power dense as petrol though,,,,,,
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In reply to Post #85
Hydrogen isn’t efficient though. Takes about 100 miles of electricity to make 80 miles of hydrogen, if that makes sense. Hydrogen will be for commercial vehicles as the batteries needed for a lorry are just too big and needs too long to charge. People reckon there aren’t enough chargers for EV, but how many refuelling points are there for hydrogen? And how do you store and transport the smallest molecule we have reliably despite the technology being 60 years old? Toyota gave the patents to the industry years ago to try and get the tech in mass use - most of the 2012 olympics vehicles transporting the athletes were Toyota Hydrogen vehicles. But how many are out there?
EV’s aren’t for everyone, but most who diss them don’t own them. We’ve got the van (which we’re doing west coast of France next year in), son has a Lexus UX 300e, I’ve got a polestar and have had EV’s for 4 years or sp now, so have actually owned and lived them. Daughter can’t charge easily, so has a hybrid. Like I said, wouldn’t go back tho.
I’m sat in Norway at the mo - everyone says EVs are crap in the cold, yet 90 odd percent of their new cars are EV. Go figure.
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In reply to Post #84
Sounds like a ideal situation for you 
Range.....When we bought the Rifter it was 3 years old, the idea being it'd replace my Berlingo which is near 20 years old. The guy in the Peugeot dealership tried to sell me the electric Rifter so I asked him the range, he said something like 300 miles, sounded good.
I said we go to Europe fishing, it'd be fully loaded motorway miles, roof box prob, 80mph mostly, how many miles then, he said just over a hundred probably...so I said I'd have to stop 7 or 8 times and the journeys alread x hours, he just smiled 
The bloke who does our house alarm has one of the latest VW transporters, (wrapped a lovey red & cream) said its brill range wise around town and lower speeds but useless on motorways range wise.
I'm sure they'll ger better with time and shrinking of battery size, I'm hoping hydrogen takes off. I believe JCB have a fully licensed hydro engine now fir the European market, and one of the Asian firms have one too. Also read 2 firms were dropping EV development for and exploring 'other avenues:'.
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In reply to Post #83
My missus has a Toyota Proace (same as the pug/vauxhall) medium wheelbase EV that we’ve converted to a camper. No belts, ad blue, chains etc and 180 miles or so to a charge, which is more than enough for us. Costs about £4.80 in charging to get those 180 miles. 10yr warranty on car and battery. And you can pick up 2nd hand EV’s up cheap as chips - it cost us less to buy the van and convert it than to buy a diseasel std unconverted van.
I’m sure someone’s going to tell me the range is rubbish, batteries don’t last, etc but we’d never go back to ICE……
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In reply to Post #82
I just think if you were buying a van today why would you get one with this known issue if you couldn't get proof that it had had the recall work completed.
You probably already know this but they can't just replace the chain , the head cover has to be replaced too and apparently you can tell by the lumps on it if it has the newer chain fitted, and also by the stamp number on the head. I get what you're saying but if you buy any newer model van you're already in the unknown, only after the first 18 months ish will issues tend to show on higher mileage fleet vans. I still wouldn't touch the over worked 1ltr ish petrol engines but unfortunately newer vans all have eco rubbish. They seem to be ironing the issues out with the 1.5 blue hdi but in another thread somewhere a fleet manager commented on several other issues, and then there's the adblue system...mine stopped working annually 3 times!
Horses for courses
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The chain stretching issue has been known about for some time now on the 1.5 bluhdi engine, it's been engineered out on later 23 onwards engines by using a thicker gauge chain.
I just think if you were buying a van today why would you get one with this known issue if you couldn't get proof that it had had the recall work completed. It's such a minefield getting a replacement van. If you have one already, deffo get the work done on the recall.
Apparently the 2.0 bluhdi isn't affected as it has a thicker gauge chain already installed from new.
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In reply to Post #80
The timing belt in my emgine is a dry belt, but that's not the recall problem I'm talking about, it's the camshaft chain, see part 7 in the diagram below. There have been kits available for a while with upgraded chain size and new top cam cover etc, but this is the 1st I've heard of the recall
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In reply to Post #79
I'll copy and paste my reply to the post you mention.............
Sounds like your car has a welt belt.
My son's Vauxhall Grandlander of a similar age has one and it cost him approx £1500 to change and clean the engine because it had deteriorated and was clogging up the oil causing it to go into limp mode
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So, I'm just following this up and will copy and paste this where I've commented on other threads.
Our 2019 Peugeot Rifter 1.5 Blue Hdi has just been recalled by Peugeot as a 'Urgent Safety Recall'. They're working their way through vins and contacting owners in some sort of sequence. There is also a compensation scheme in place for those who've already had issues.
To quote
May be affected by premature wearing of the camshaft drive chain, leading to abnormal noise, or a breakage of the chain in the worst case. To address this issue we will update the software to improve oil pressure and reduce wear. In addition the noise of your engine will be checked with a special application. If we see a problem with the chain we will replace it. If no problem is found we will replace the oil with to one with higher viscosity and special anti wear additives.
My car's already been serviced with the right oil but it will be going to Peugeot for a check, and to check it's still recommending the same oil. As this engine is used in other makes I assume they're on recall too, worth checking your engine.
Edit, looks like my engine is Engine (D) (DV5RC (YHZ))
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I’ve just bought a Citroen berlingo which is fine for me size wise . I have no intention of sleeping in it and don’t take silly amounts of gear. It already has a ply base covered in vinyl. I’m going to install a coat/clothes rack and potentially a cargo net in the roof space. May put some draws in one corner for spare bits and bobs. Barrow should fit in loaded minis the rods and that’ll probably be me done.
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In reply to Post #76
Ended up with a vivaro, cracking van so far I couldn't be happier.All boarded out, lino down on the floor,stretchy felt going over the boards after I have insulated.Bedchair fits an inch inside the wheel arch so no need to be on a slant,win win. Magnets to hold torches etc. couple of boxes to make with spare lino and stretchy felt ....if all goes well Sunday I should be almost ✅ done, probably won't look amazing but should be above decent. Just need to think about the internal roof.
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In reply to Post #75
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I used to work for Jaguar Landrover back in the day and a fellow asked me if it is interesting....?? I replied ''yes, i get to make a new Discovery every day'' ......
Regards Tad.
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In reply to Post #73
Thanks dan some helpful information there.
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In reply to Post #65
I’ve had a few different fishing/work van setups now as well as done a couple of campers too, off top of my head for an ideal fishing van I’d say
Some form of wipe/wash down floor covering is handy-I’ve used that rubber coin stuff in my caddy
If carpeting I’d personally carpet only the ply removable panels (go for a dark colour) wouldn’t bother with the metalwork, again I’ve had both (Ive actually seen a few vans with the floor carpeted!) and when loading wet smelly muddy fishing gear in the carpets not gonna stay mint for long!
Insulation wise I’ve always used soundproofing first-dodo mat deadn is something I’ve recently used followed by thermolining type insulation and then the dodo fleece roll on top of that and in the voids-don’t use the rockwool type insulation!
You won’t cut out condensation completely, and a roof vent mentioned above is really good advice if your planning on kipping in it regularly
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In reply to Post #70
That's got to be good advice - on any car for that matter let alone vans. I'd add regular 5-7k oil changes especially on high mileage diesels etc
My only regret car wise was selling our high mileage '06 plate VW Touran a few years back which stripped back and seats removed would have made an ideal carp wagon. 2.0 TDI / DSG box it was quick enough and simply would not die! The missus abused it (rarely got serviced / wheels curbed / dinks all over) it as did the kids (banana plants growing out of door pockets / headless barbies with chewing gum under the front seats) but it kept going without much of a grumble.
The mechanic that bought it for his own wife (I was dreading his inspection - he took at least an hour tugging on everything and pulling bits out of the engine) confirmed he was more than happy and that that particular engine / model / year (no DPF etc) was the 'one to have'. He paid me what I wanted in cash and drove off happy . . .
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In reply to Post #70
The insurance no claims you've mentioned isn't entirely true, it depends which insurer. Mine accepted my car insurance from.previous years for a commercial policy.
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What you have to remember with the hysteria over wet belts, DPFs and anything else car or van related, is that a lot go wrong because they are not maintained correctly or serviced often enough.
My advice is ignore all the advice as its just too confusing and too contradictory.
Find the size of van you like, and search for one with as low mileage as possible .... BUT more importantly also must have a FULL SERVICE HISTORY (with receipts of work), make sure you see receipts of any belts, waterpumps etc that were due for change have been and you will reduce greatly the issues many have.
If you want avoid VAT or commercial van insurance (not being able to transfer no claims) then take a look at a Berlingo Multispace or Peugeut equivalent as some models have completely removeable seats which affectively gives you a van. I did it a few years back and worked great. If you need something bigger then look for a seated version of that vehicle (check seats are removable).
Once bought, i would change any cam belts, waterpumps, auxilery belts etc (using genuine parts) and have a full service done (including ALL filters) with proper grade oil, correct grade coolant etc .... Expect a probable circa £1k extra outlay after purchase to get these done.
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In reply to Post #1
I have a home made fold down bed in an old shape swb 2014 vivaro/ Trafic. both the same. Best of both worlds. Can fill it up with ***** or wheel the barrow straight in. My only bit of advice would be if you are going to sleep with the door shut fit a roof vent.
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In reply to Post #61
If you over service it your very unlikely to have the oil pickup issue. Oil changes every 10k max and use quality oil every time I'd say. 
Pretty much most issues with engines appear due to lack off or bad maintenance although there are inherent badly designed and engineered issues on engines as well - think.. avoid German imo.
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In reply to Post #61
The cam chain 1.5bluhdi is not in Merc Citans, they use Renault Kangoo 1.5dci engines that have traditional cam belts.
Considering all the issues with the 1.5 bluhdi in cit/peu/Vau/Toy/Fia vans pre 2023 ( in 2023 they increased the chain size to engineer out the fault), VW have their own never ending list of engine faults so their not something I'd touch it only really leave the Renault Kangoo 1.5dci. This comes in normal and Maxi lengths - the maxi is good for a carp porter extreme power porter, no need to break it down at all and that includes having the bucket on the front.
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In reply to Post #65
Fair enough. I was just going to say if you can find someone to remove the ad blue program then do it, they are a pain in the arse because they don't regen properly a lot and you get the management light come on.
I saw someone with a van who'd fitted a couple of small tarps to the rear tailgate that rolled down to form a porch which was quite smart, but I'm guessing you have normal doors on it being as it's ex bt . You could try something to create the same by fitting something across the tops of those though
Not sure you'll be able to stop condensation fully Tbh
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In reply to Post #64
68 plate. Just looking for tips to turn it into a fishing van.
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In reply to Post #63
How old is it?
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In reply to Post #62
Ex bt vivaro being picked up tomorrow. Going to fix my bed inside to save putting my titan up.
Any tips please to get the best I can on a medium budget....
Insulation to stop condensation rather than warmth.
Have some carpet coming.
Any other dos and don'ts would be highly appreciated. Not looking for over the top fancy.
Thanks
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In reply to Post #57
Spooky
I had a post about this come up on my linkdin account t this morning.
Big brother IS watching
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In reply to Post #58
I'm sure there's one out here but it's not that easy. For example, the PSA engine is used to my knowledge in Peug, Citroen, Renault, Vauxhall, Toyota, Mercedes, small commercials and it's revisions of existing engines. Eg, the 8mm chain is identified by extra bumps on the cam cover or by a code stamped on the engine.
Worth noting that there's also a lot of mention of turbo failure even when the belt hasn't gone to to the bits coming of it clogging the turbo pick up.
@ expat, I watched a video of a American chap explaining why he'd never buy Ford light pick ups again and he'd gone with Isuzu Dmax because it still has a chain.
Ford in this country only accepted there was a problem due to commercials coming back in within warranty due to high miles. A lot of private customers were left high and dry as they only cover those miles after a much longer time; ie out warranty.
If you pick up a dealer serviced van you should be o.k. You might have to factor in some major parts like timing chain/water pump etc.
I'm still running a 56 plate Berlingi with the dreaded DV6 turbo pick up issue, at some point you have to roll the dice.
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Don’t go anywhere near a wet belt if you’ve got Delkims 
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In reply to Post #57
Ford didn't do a recall on all wet belts in the USA, thats simply not true, it was on 2 specific cars. They also did offer to repair the vehicle.
I have a Ford Ranger, the most popular pick up in the UK, everyone says you've got to replace the oil pump as it's a design fault. Thing is when you're selling that many vehicles parts are going to go wrong. One of the biggest reasons for it failing is not getting it serviced where they know what they're doing they don't refill on service straight away and it doesn't self prime leading to wear and tear on the oil pump.
I had a Ford Mustang with the Ecoboost engine, never had any problems plus after 2018 the ecoboot has a timing chain rather than a wet belt.
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In reply to Post #57
Can you list manufacturers / specific vehicles with this problem?
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In reply to Post #54
Many will be uninformed about the wet belt issues.
Is it the type of oil, is it lack of service, etc...
ANY oil will cause the wet belt rubber to degrade and fragment. The particles then circulate in the engine in the oil. They will partially block the oil strainer at the bottom of the sump and prevent proper oil circulation. This then creates many problems around the engine.
The ford ecoboost problems are legendary if you search social media.
Ford USA did a recall on all wet belts, but wouldn't compensate for the many drivers who had ongoing issues, costs and even had to scrap nearly new cars.
Ford UK don't admit there is even an issue...
DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING WITH A WET BELT 
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In reply to Post #55
Cheers vossy a very useful post there, information I will definitely take notice of,and the previous post as well.
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In reply to Post #54
As you say you can see the wet belt on some models through the oil cap. There is a special tool ( a few quid) like a letter h that you can buy, if it fits over the belt and there are no cracks all is good.
If you want to know more about wet belt issues just Google the Ford Ecoboost engine, also known as the ecoboom!!!!!!
Even PSA keep changing there minds about the type of engine oil that should be used especially re the timing chain, some now recommend a 5:30 v 0:20 due to shear strength or something similar and half the oil service intervals. Peugeot tell me they check the wet belt every service 20k, I've heard others say check every 6-8k.
To the op, van size is very much a personal thing. You will probably get away with a LWB Partner/Berlingo but they're typically designed around fitting a europallet, so roughly 1m3 in the none LWB, obviously longer in the LWB. I'd want more room than that.
Road duty on our 1.5 blue hdi (130) is £15.85 pcm iirc.
If I were in the market I'd be looking at the Peugeot Expert, imo they caught up on looks with the transporter and there some nice bigger engine options like the 2ltr in a world where big engines are going by the by.
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The wet belt issue is definitely a thing. My wife has a 5yr old Vauxhall crossland. Bought from a main dealer. Serviced every year. Recommend belt change is 60k. Hers had 57k. On that engine you can see the belt through the oil filler cap. I’d started to see cracks in the belt. We spoke to Vauxhall who were very dismissive, they said it’s not due for another 3k miles. I wasn’t happy about leaving it so I got it done by a local mechanic. When we got the car back he said we only just caught it in time. The oil filter, pick up was blocked with belt debris. Doubtful it would have lasted to the 60k mileage. Then it’s bye bye car. So be very wary of buying any vehicle that’s got a wet belt second hand, because you simply don’t know if it’s ever had the incorrect oil put in, or they skipped an oil filter change one year, and that’s all it can take to degrade the belt to cause a premature failure. Ford have just changed the recommended service interval for the belts on transit customs. Vauxhall wanted about £2k to do the change on our crossland. A lot of garages won’t do them due to the amount of time it ties up a ramp. But if you need a belt done there’s a specialist in Huntingdon called The Car Edition that does lots of them. We spoke to them about doing ours and they were very helpful.
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In reply to Post #32
My Tax is £12 something per month direct debit on a LWB VW Transporter T32.
Possibly new vans are getting stung?
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In reply to Post #51
That's right belch. From advice given I need to avoid wet belts apparently, be aware of vat expensive tax and insurance. Main decision is whether I buy a van big enough to fix a bedchair inside or just a smaller version for approx 6 grand.
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In reply to Post #50
A bike 
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In reply to Post #1
So reading through this thread I'm even more confused - what is the best / most reliable fishing van for £6k?
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In reply to Post #47
3 years I owed one. Cost me one set of tyres and brake pads. Literally never went wrong.
Was a 2010 1.9 model and I’d have another tomorrow
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In reply to Post #47
The newer Partner/Berlingo/Vauxhall are all basically the same. I have a 19 plate Rifter, I'd be very wary of the petrol and certain of the diesels due to wet belt and cam chains. There are some contributory schemes available but only with full dealer service history. The 7mm chain version requires quite a bit of work to convert to the 8mm version (see kits on Ebay).
The adblue systems are a pita and I don't trust it, our latest injector has gone faulty after 14000 miles, yes it's under warranty but they still want £150 just to confirm it with a diag.
A youtube mechanic I've been watching said avoid the Vauxhall vans and buy the Pug/Cit equivalent.
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In reply to Post #2
I wouldn't touch a VW Caddy with a barge pole, I've never spoken to an owner and heard positive feedback regarding reliability.
Pug/Cit Berlingo/Partners get good feedback, the Partner has been available in an XL size for quite some time and also Renault Kangoo Maxi's get good feedback.
Don't whatever you do think/expect that Vw/ German brands = Reliability as the opposite is usually the norm in my experience.
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In reply to Post #9
I have a 19 plate combo with only 35k on the clock, had a few issues including the dreaded adblue problems, last year the water pump was leaking so had it done plus cam belt changed and its deffo not a wet belt, the mechanic said only the petrol versions have the wet belt.
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I have a Vito. 2016 crew cab comfortably transports 3 of us and all our gear for a week in France. although it only has the 1600 Renault engine but on a run on uk motorways will average 50mpg if you set the cruise control at 70mph. had it from new now covered 86000 miles with no big dramas. new battery last year a few tyres over the years and a rear ABS sensor. and 1 glow plug. the engine is chain driven so no nasty wet belts. i do change the oil every 10000 miles i think Mercedes recommend oil changes at 24000 miles but for £50 just do the oil and filter myself. it happily trundles down the French motorways at 85mph and averages 43 mpg at that speed. the only minor downside is if you show it a very steep hill it has a touch of asthma.
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I thought about getting myself a Vito but compared to other vans the technology and the cab lay out ,gadgets etc etc is far behind it’s competitors
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In reply to Post #42
Here’s a couple from me
A Vivaro driver since an 02 plate and all from brand new until company change them.
Size wise
Old shape was great new shape seat uncomfortable as it’s too narrow and not enough padding
02 only problem I had was a split steering hose 75k
55 plate clutch wore out 72k
60 plate crew cab nothing went tyres lasted years
All 1900 engines.
Then I got given new shape combo
Absolute dog doo and too small for anything other than a 2 foot square box lol
During Covid breakout I then went and bought a transit custom on a 64 plate
Couldn’t fault that plenty of room
only problem is
You do have to do a fair few miles otherwise the DPF filter clogs up and you then Have to get it cleaned.
That is the same with any diesel vehicle though.
This was Swapped weekly with a brand new transit custom crew from work.
So I used theirs on long trips and work business.
This new shape Vivaro 22 plate and 1600 engine.
I have done 71k miles already
Same rear tyres and brakes
Front pads and tyres changed at service in March.
As mentioned earlier
Seat isn’t quite wide enough so bar under seat digs in sciatic nerve.
Solved so far with pipe lagging between bar and under seat padding.
No problems so far….
Never driven a VW of any shape or form except a Passat and a bora.
Might ask boss if I can test one of those when van up for renewal…
Merc vitos are quite nice and wouldn’t mind having a longer test drive in one of those for a month or so but cost is probably prohibitive.
driven the older model and a mate of mine has quite a new one.
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In reply to Post #41
Lol framey, just grateful of a few hints of what to be aware of so it's a big yes to the forum from me, probably end up with a Nissan nv200 for size purposes but when I look I will heed the advice from here whatever I buy.
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So,
In conclusion.
Ford is better than Vw or Vauxhall
But the Vauxhall is better than the Ford or VW provided the VW is not better than the Ford or Vauxhall.
Hope that helps with your choice .
Kinda like a fox or delkim alarm thread innit..
 
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I normally replace my van every 3 yrs whilst it’s still worth a few quid and when the warranty expires don’t think I’ll be doing it this time the Vw transporter has just become the Vw transit with wet belt inc free no thanks I’ll run this one into the ground and then see what’s available like the vito but detest merc customer care so much I sold my vito at 18 months old and went back to my Vw had a few traffic still got one normally great up to 150k if well maintained
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In reply to Post #36
The Custom auto I've been looking at has considerably come down in price but that will be replacing my 2015 manual. it depends what age, spec and milage your looking for i suppose.
Buying a nearly new van is still very expensive.
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Do not even consider a wet belt. Ever.
Read up on ford ecoboost problems, the same is true for all wet belts.
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In reply to Post #34
Disagree, we've just replaced one of ours a matter of weeks ago and the prices are still very high
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/van-details/202504211546865?sort=price-asc&searchId=8ad14117-a358-45be-bbbe-124923914a92&advertising-location=at_vans&make=TOYOTA&model=PROACE&page=2&postcode=NG15GA&price-from=500&fromsra
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If your not concerned about a particular make/model and not fussy on spec then you’ll be in a better position, if you buy based on condition/service history then you should get something decent for 6k
I’ve had mainly vw’s, mostly with success but anything and everything has the potential to go wrong! I’ve currently got a caddy maxi that I use for commuting/fishing and a crafter as a camper, both nice to drive but heavy to tax! Do sometimes wonder if I could get by with an estate instead of the caddy
A transporter is a good size for actually sleeping in, I had a lwb with a tailgate for years and it was great for fishing out of! The early ones have come down in price more recently too, i would go for the 1.9 rather than the 2.5 engine if you get one
I like the caddy maxi its a really good size for gear but maybe not the best in terms of actually fishing out of, drives like a car aswell but as above I feel the tax is fairly hefty for what it is.
Everyone says stay away from the trafic/vivaro but I had a trafic crew cab for 3/4 years and it was a belting van,they do suffer with a few issues but at least they are common/known problems, so if you get those covered or look out for one that’s had them sorted you should be good, they do tend to be better value for money than the vw’s & mercs
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In reply to Post #22
They went up loads in covid due to courier wanting owner drivers in vans, the price has came down quiet a lot.
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In reply to Post #32
No my transit is around £400
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In reply to Post #17
I’m pretty sure that all vans are now £600 car tax
I moved over to an estate car, better mileage, more comfort, extra seats if needed
Miss being able to put the full barrow straight in the back but it’s something I can live without
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In reply to Post #28
Not really no. The Renault tragic in all it's different guises are really not great, there are only so many about because they are cheaper than most. The problem the op is likely to have is any van on that kind of budget is very likely to cost a lot to keep on the road unless he gets very lucky
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In reply to Post #23
I did that with mine
Hit hurts lol
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In reply to Post #28
The post 2016 transits are awful yes but the chain ones previously have hardly any issues.
Trafics and vivaros have gearbox issues on older models which is costly. Not sure about the newer ones but when I was looking the newer ones seem cheap...I think because they're only a 1.6 engine which is not big enough for a big van imo.
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In reply to Post #27
I think that statement is valid for pretty much all vehicles new or old. Always someone with bad experiences etc etc. Honestly all you can do is buy one with the best service history you can find, get some sort of warranty if possible and then regularly service it.
The Transit Custom is often cited in reliability indexes as one of the most reliable but a quick search online will bring hundreds of horror stories on the welt belt system for example.
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In reply to Post #26
Honestly don't. For every decent one there are 3 poor ones, and they can easily become money pits , especially when over 100k or so. My firm runs 6 of them and other than the 2 newest ones they've all had multiple costly issues, and are all under 150k
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In reply to Post #25
Vivaro potentially a good shout thanks
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In reply to Post #1
Personally I would have a look at Renault Trafic/Vauxhall Vivaro. Same van with different badge. Solid engines (2.0 is a chain) and likely get a 2014 for that budget which is last year of that model. I have a 59 plate that is currently on 225k miles and owned for 8 years.
Sport/sportive version has air con and given so many around spares/repairs are cheap.
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In reply to Post #11
And the price of these is about to fall through the floor with the new BIK decision by HMRC, my Ranger is going as I have it through work and replacing with Ford Transit Custom.
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In reply to Post #20
Normally if a van doesn’t have vat added to it is because someone has taken the hit for private use so you can’t claim the vat back.
Mine was £10000 plus vat, I’ve not claimed the vat back so when itI sold it will be vat free.
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In reply to Post #21
Eh? Since covid the price of vans has gone up a lot.
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In reply to Post #20
I was the same but it seems the price of private sales are pretty much the same as + vat its just hidden, since covid the price of vans have came down.
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In reply to Post #18
I had my transit custom on SDP
Only other real problem is in MOST cases you need to add VAT onto the purchase price.
So it does go up in purchase price
Lucky if you can find someone who doesn’t charge vat
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In reply to Post #16
I've always used Hastings or Aviva and they both honour van - car no claims and visa versa.
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In reply to Post #17
Its a commercial vehicle but you don't have to insure it under a commercial if your not using it through as a business.
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In reply to Post #14
Did I say you couldn't? I said it's a commercial vehicle so you'll pay more on tax, and a van is more on insurance usually because they get broken into!
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In reply to Post #15
I only found done that would give me half the equivalent no claims bonus what I had on the car.
Even my car insurers wouldn’t do it.
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In reply to Post #12
Also not true, some policies wont let you but most will.
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In reply to Post #10
That's not true, you can insure any van on a personal policy (non-commerical) my custom is cheaper to insurance than my Audi Q5.
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In reply to Post #12
All very good information thank you gents, main thing I need for health purposes is a bed chair to save me erecting my titan.
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One thing with vans and most insurers
They will not let you transfer any no claims bonus across.
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In reply to Post #10
I use a pickup... Ok I can't wheel my loaded barrow in and out of it, but it swallows everything I need and is great for wet smelly nets and dogs.
For loading, I wheel the part loaded barrow up via an aluminium ramp, and chuck everything else I need in and around that. The rod bag fits nicely inside the cabin, with both 12 and 10ft rods.
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In reply to Post #9
I think you're right. And so do vws I believe.
My mate has a brand new crafter for work and the turbos gone just over 1000 miles!
I have a 65 plate transit and it that goes I'll get another the same year with the cam chain.
One thing to bare in mind in regards to a van is it's a commercial vehicle so you'll pay more on tax and insurance. Also vans are thirsty and the older ones aren't ULEV. If I was getting a vehicle just solely for fishing I'd be looking at an estate or SUV type.
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In reply to Post #8
I believe the PSA vans (Peugeot, Citroen etc) of that age also use wet belts. And suffer the same problems the Fords do, if they haven't been looked after.
That might be part of the price drop.
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In reply to Post #7
Is there enough room for the bedchair to sleep on bob please? Massive price drop when you move towards citroen, Renault or Peugeot which I understand but not fussed about image just want something reliable.
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In reply to Post #1
I got a 2019 Peugeot Partner van for around that sort of price. Very happy with it but the rods do have to go via the hatch into the cab.
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In reply to Post #4
I agree i have a 2015 ford transit custom SWB and perfect for fishing and every day use.
Mine was a crew cab but ended up removing the seats and now is just a panel van with twin sliding doors and windows
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In reply to Post #4
Very helpful karmh thank you
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You'd probably get a decent transit custom with around 100k on for that with cam chain and not belt which is by far the better version (pre 2016).
Vitos are quite small and have sliding doors on both sides I believe which could be a plus or a hindrance.
Id say if you don't plan on leaving stuff in there worth robbing then windows probably best bet.
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In reply to Post #1
Tbh 6 grand won't get you much, van prices are through the roof at the moment. You're likely to be looking at something pretty old on high mileage , and vans tend to get hammered.
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Not my thing but this is from an old acquaintance of mine who converted his van for that exact purpose. At the end of the video he goes through the things he adjusted and why. Subs in english on and there are some good tips to be had:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2-zzWNZxs&pp=ygUQRm94IHJvZWxvZiBzY2h1dA%3D%3D
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Looking to spend no more than £6000 on a medium sized van mainly to fish from my bedchair being fixed in the van, any tips and things to avoid please? Would windows increase or decrease the likelihood of it being broke into? Also Van's to avoid or go for would be appreciated, I like the mercedes vito but not started seriously looking yet.
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