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In reply to Post #77 The bait snobs and Ali haters have already won by reading your reply, that's not a pop just a observation.
but the scary thing is that I watched his release video and for a minute, just a brief minute my head was saying that the pop-ups looked decent and may be worth a try.
The bait looked quite good imo, nice and soft. I doubt very much Ali will have put together a crap bait. The pop ups, someone will want to class them as over flavoured balls of dough/sawdust, but those types of pop ups have been catching, and will continue catching for ever, it's as simple as that, who ever tries to imply differently is argueing with history that's undeniable, not my opinion. Your fishing for a Carp!*
How many poor souls are going to walk into AD and make that mistake.
As above, nothing wrong with their decision just others opinions about it being a inferior product.
If i took my son into AD and told him to pick out a bait, he'd probably go for the "Kettle Chip" wannabe bags because they look kind of flashy i would expect.
Good, nothing wrong with a good bit of marketing, and by being unbiased he may actually have a great result
* I have no beef with using a well made food pop up for tricky venues but in general they're not required imo, those sorts of venues are in the minority not majroity. I'm not saying you won't do better on them where ever you use them either for the record.
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I don't really know what camp i fit into between General Noddy or Well Informed Forum Go-er, maybe somewhere in the middle but the scary thing is that I watched his release video and for a minute, just a brief minute my head was saying that the pop-ups looked decent and may be worth a try.
Absolutely no idea why, but thats me being truthful.
How many poor souls are going to walk into AD and make that mistake.
If i took my son into AD and told him to pick out a bait, he'd probably go for the "Kettle Chip" wannabe bags because they look kind of flashy i would expect.
The OMC bait screws aren't bad though to be fair
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In reply to Post #68 Sour grapes? I'm quite content in my current role to be honest.
Never understood the whole "you're just jealous" thing.
I love gaming, I enjoyed using my xbox on a regular basis, however would I want to film myself playing on it, or stood in 'Game' on a saturday earning minimum wage selling games for the xbox?
Would I want to be an LG/Samsung/LoveHoney salesman too because I enjoy using their stuff too?
Na, you're alright.
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In reply to Post #68 "I'm sure he won't be losing any sleep over the opinions of a few on a forum"
That's good to hear. He won't mind me calling him a c*ck then.
"He donates a lot to many good causes"
Good on him, I hope he continues. He's not alone though.
"Sounds like sour grapes a lot of this."
How so?
"on a forum that's seen better days"
We'll keep soldiering on.
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Trouble for me is that he has just sprayed and preyed with regards products. All the decent brands started small with a collection of tackle they had heritage in and then expanded once the brand had a good name. Ali seems to believe that his Korda days got him star status and he could flood the market with a name tagged to 90% crap. I assume it’s because his backers wanted a return and to see huge growth.
I think his pva system is good, but if god forbid I won a £509 voucher I think I’d be too to toe in some camo tweed ensemble sat on a park bench making a smoothie with a cordless whizzer
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In reply to Post #68 Respect for Ali doing this BUT its all tax deductible and I'm sure many others do this they just don't shout about it.
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In reply to Post #68 Full marks for donating to charity. The guy is still a generous t@@@er.
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I could say quite a bit about his videos...but I wont....suffice to say I don't own and will never use a single piece of OMC gear, I would rather go without.
Hamidi will always have his sheep but his flock will get smaller. He's great at marketing I will give him that but Jesus it's getting boring and desperate.
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In reply to Post #68 I'm sure that nobody is actually trying to make him lose any sleep Lol. And no sour grapes either. We are just calling out desperately over hyped bait bull ***** ! As for the forum having seen better days, you're still posting on it !
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In reply to Post #62 I saw a post about the pellets with a picture of the ingredients - was halibut & course pellets, and the added curing ingredient were literally just "tiger nut juice and sucrose"
I was personally shocked he has gone down the bait route, after the amount of years he stayed with mainline and his beloved goo, I can understand why there are mummering's in the industry that he overstepped his mark now.
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I'm sure he won't be losing any sleep over the opinions of a few on a forum that's seen better days. You also forget what this guy does with children's charities. He donates a lot to many good causes. Sounds like sour grapes a lot of this.
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In reply to Post #66
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In reply to Post #64 Haha ! Always thought that he loved himself too much, but that's taking things too far 😂
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In reply to Post #61 I’m afraid that the magic twig fiasco has caused a lot of damage to his personal brand. Personally, I’m fairly chilled about such things which in reality are trivial. nonetheless, the damage has been done. He was always quite a divisive character, even prior to that, but at least he was a character and still is!
He deserves a level of respect in all honesty for bringing out such a comprehensive range of fishing tackle within such a short period. The fishing tackle market is absolutely on its knees at the moment. If you look at companies house accounts, even the biggest of the big players are reeling from the effects of the post-Covid world that we are in. Fishing suddenly became madly popular, manufacturers over ordered, and by the time the stock arrived from China, the bubble had already burst.
I don’t use any of his products in all honesty, but I’m not daft enough to hold a personal opinion from letting me use good tackle and I suspect a lot of what he sells is actually pretty good stuff. I certainly won’t be using his bait, however, or that bloody twig!
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In reply to Post #62 " " cured " with his own special gravy "
Ooh err missus.
He must be desperate, literally.
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In reply to Post #62 The guy really is a grade A dick
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In reply to Post #56 Maybe not the boilies. It's the pellets he's "curing" now haha. Just watched the video for a laugh and the dedicated pellet range are actually halibut pellets " cured " with his own special gravy and nutty sauce 😂. 10.48 and 11.34 minutes in if you don't wanna watch all the rest of his spiel !
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In reply to Post #60 He’s super popular Alan. Or so I thought. He should not be needing to do anything like he was to sell some bait I’d have thought.
I had to look for a few days because of the ‘curing’ comments. I don’t normally see any of it. What totally shocked me was the comments on all the bait posts. Real nasty comments. Not one, on some posts every single comment is taking the piss. I was so shocked, never seen nothing like it before. Yes there was the arse kissers saying what you mentioned. But they are out numbered so much by negative comments.
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In reply to Post #58 In a market so saturated, he needs to mobilise the social media sheep into buying a few pots of marbles and bags of Kettle Chips, regain the investment, and then hope he can break even on any further sales before it eventually dies a death.
Apart from a couple of chonks in Holland, I have seen nothing proving to me, as a consumer, that these triple boosted and cured wonder balls from Munch Baits is any better than what I am using now.
It makes me laugh and die a little inside at the same time seeing the comments on Facebook by Total Carp readers who were ****ed from day one, because they were fed the lie in the rags that you need to recast every ten minutes with a different coloured pop up/topper/flavour of stick mix to get a bite. It was Korda's MO for over a decade, and Ali is continuing it, made easier thanks to Insta and the gullible on it who will part with their money because the packaging and language is more attractive to them than the product itself. Sadly, they are also the majority now.
"These look really good Ali, I'll give these a go"
Why? Why give them a go? Was everything you used before that not good enough then? Or are you just that naïve that you believe that THIS bait is better than the one you was catching on before? Why change? Because you're a tackle companies wet dream who sell you strips of fake grass for your bivvy because they know you'll buy it. It's sad really. Hopefully they'll get bored in a few years and go back to the pub or shooting squirrels out of trees. Harsh maybe, but I couldn't care less.
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In reply to Post #56 Haha yes I noticed that as well!
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In reply to Post #57 Don't need to worry about any of them. I have always sat back and said nothing. This has been going on for so long now. I have always just put my head down & got on with us.
This time I was advised by people within the industry to say something very publicly to put a stop to all this. This was not just about this being spoken about here. There are currently hook bait companies continually using our company name on their website & advertising, whilst claiming to be 'curing' card board pop ups. Statements like "A new generation of Specialized Hook Baits" being the latest. Whilst at the same time members of this forum who ask me questions about bait, come post links of this rubbish in front of my face. That kind of stuff.
This all has to stop. That above will get dealt with by solicitors, not public statements. Continually using our business name in adverts and written into the coding of their website, whilst ripping us off is just a step to far. That is just pathetic & shameless.
But the time had come where I had to say something about it all publicly. That was what I was being advised. As far as this company here in this thread is concerned that is the end of it. That's why I thanked Ali & wished him well with his bait venture.
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Mark - surely you don't need to worry about a company like this? I always see you as a bespoke company making quality, not quantity. That idiot will have a massive marketing budget, stick to doing your thing , beat your own drum, help people catch carp like you always have since way back on the Cemex forum - the truth always comes out in the end, and you will be on the right side. I read you have not been well concentrate on getting yourself better. I am off with a couple of pots of your finest, so all the best.
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Since my public comments on here & Faceache, there has been zero mention again about curing on any advertising.
The baits went onto the AD website yesterday, referred to as boosted.
Thank you Ali. And good luck with your bait venture.
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Oh God,just seen Hamidi on tik tok with two bags of his new bait.He has made it look like he's unveiled it in the crowd at Anfield and they're all cheering for it
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"It's come to our attention recently that yet another new bait firm is claiming to be 'curing' blank cardboard pop ups. As flattering as all this is, please be advised this is just shameless people trying to sell novice anglers very cheap pop ups, at an incredibly inflated price. This has gone on ever since we first started in some form or another. It seems after the utter failure of the stupid Twiglet and park bench, now that silly sausage off the TV is the latest to start 'curing' in his clueless dreams.
'Curing' is the name, rightly or wrongly given to the process we put our 100% food/cork hook baits through. It's a five stage process, that is only even possible with real food. It involves much time and love. Not cheap blank pop ups tipped out of a bag of 50,000 with a splash of flavour poured onto them. These people have absolutely zero clue what the process is that we use to help gain the results that we do for our customers. No one does, it's always been a very closely guarded secret. It's all just a desperate attempt to ride off someone else's back. For many years we have just sat back and laughed as all this behaviour has gone on. They come & they go. But now is the time to start calling out this absolute rubbish within the industry. The Sugars2 and the curing process that created it are nearly twenty years old now. Don't be fooled by entertainers who jump up and down and shout a lot. There is, and always has been only one 'cured' hook bait on the market. Everything else claiming to be so, is just trying to imitate what we do, without a single shameless clue. I do completely understand that we have a totally different clientele to these companies, who are only targeting novices. Our customers are far more established carp anglers... We don't 'do' silly entertainers/influencers. So to most of you this is already common knowledge. But these clowns need calling out now. 🤡"
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That's a post on our social media right now. I'm waiting for Ali. Everyone knows who I am talking about including him. So where is he? One of his fanboys bring him to our social media now. I'll have it with that absolute noddy mug wherever he wants it, the more public the better.
This is about more than just that idiot. But clearly his tie up with AD too. Munch baits are their dross. This is no coincidence that moments after we start stocking The TackleBox & FishOn tackle this comes to fruition. Johnson Ross & Yateley angling are next. AD will NEVER be stocked with our products after today.
I hope Ali and his dross go out of business really soon for the good of real carp fishing.
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In reply to Post #52 Nah fella, this is called throwing as much crap at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Magic Twigs, Rusting Swiss army knives, now imported cheap bait from Europe and "multi layered curing process" hook baits on blank Munch baits pops so i'm told. I don't want to have to be saying all this. Ali is forcing me to say all of this. But if he thinks that ripping us off like so many others have tried is going to work, he's wrong, it reeks of utter desperation.
This is standard carp fishing. You lot get crap in the end because of idiots like him.
What do I do? Sit back and let him spout all his crap? Every angler he sells those crap cured hook baits to is a customer gone for us in the future. I have had SOOOOO many customers who have eventually become long term punters of ours tell me they nearly never purchased our products, because they assumed they would be buying crap like Mr Holmes cured hook baits they purchased previously.
It waters down what we do totally. It's all bull****.
There is no morals in the carp fishing industry among their type. They are all shiesters, there is no other word for it. I got upset with Handcraft Gav when he turned up on this forum claiming to be 'curing' cardboard pop ups. It's a sales pitch. But let's have it right, it's a sales pitch off of our backs. If any of them even had the first clue what we were doing it would be more swallowable. It's just blatantly trying to rip anglers who don't know off, to sell some stuff. There is no other word for it.
We have consultants for nigh on EVERY bait firm buying our stuff at full price. We never get mentioned, whilst the companies all mass sell tonnes of bait off the back of results with our stuff. Mis selling to the public on a grand scale. They know what their anglers are using. I've had enough of it now. These mugs are going to start getting called out in public. If you read some of the constant adverts from the bait firms claiming this and that, when they 110% know the fish were caught on our stuff it would make your toes curl. They are just ripping off novices.
He knows what he is up too, it's desperation I am being told by figures high up in the industry. But none of that is my problem. I am not his fall guy. He is the straw that has broke the camels back as far as I am concerned regarding all this.
We are copying no one. We have always followed our own path. Do you think he would be doing this had the Twig worked out? Of course not. It's just throwing as much crap against the wall until finally something sticks... That, or the investors eventually pull out.
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In reply to Post #51 "twisted boosted multi-curing process"
He is literally just having a laugh right?
It reads like simultaneously an in-joke addressed to those who know better and a piss-take of beginners.
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In reply to Post #47 Quote... I think if OMC seriously attempt a 'in road' into bait it'll be the twig that broke the camels back
Blank cardboard pop ups being poured from bags of 50,000, put through Ali's 'Multi layered curing process' apparently. There will be some poor mugs who fall for this.
As pointed out in this thread the bloke seems to be going through some sort of breakdown before the financiers finally pull out.
None of this is my fault. I sat and watched Mark Gimp Holmes do the exact same thing when we very first started. He pulled the wool over DNA's eyes, but hurt our business a lot for years. Me and Jason of DNA have become what I consider good friends since back then. We make cured Bug hook baits which should tell you all you need to know. Nothing to do with DNA what happened with MH. They just got deceived by an influencer back then who was reading everything I wrote on the RMC forum and repeating it in CarpWorld. These people would sell their own granny for a strip of bait stops. Ali is next in line it would seem. There's been so many more too.
But now I'm going to start calling these absolute mugs out for what they are, in public. No more ripping off novices off my back.
I've had a nice dig on our Faceache page today that the whole of Europe will read. If Ali thinks he can sell his absolute crap off our back, he is in for a very rude awakening.
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I don't feel like I learned anything new, but more had what I knew confirmed. Scaling down& trying to keep it subtle if you want to avoid spooking, but also that there's often less wary carp that that will eat nearly anything in front of them.
A lot of the show was over the top & unnecessary, but that's standard for a lot of TV shows. I felt river monsters was often borderline, but I absolutely loved that show.
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In reply to Post #48 I quite liked that second 1 too
I'm just stuck in my ways and not easily disuaded, though my tackle box would disagree with all the components that've never been used
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In reply to Post #47 "I don't watch it to learn anything and there's no chance of latent learning in any vid I watch as I tend to fast forward through rig or bait explanations"
Show off.
"it'll be the twig that broke the camels back"
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I don't watch it to learn anything and there's no chance of latent learning in any vid I watch as I tend to fast forward through rig or bait explanations. I just watch to be entertained with the hope of seeing some nice fish and this series of GFA has failed on both.
I think if OMC seriously attempt a 'in road' into bait it'll be the twig that broke the camels back, I can't see it taking off, but I could be wrong.
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In reply to Post #43 'I'm struggling to think of a single thing I've actually learned from The Grand Fishing Adventure episodes.'
I learnt not to watch it.
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In reply to Post #44 He may be smelling something but it ain't carp!
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In reply to Post #43
In one episode I remember him saying something along the lines of - "with 30 years of fishing experience I'm able to smell when carp are in the area.."
With that amount of untapped knowledge we surely have something to look forward to.
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In reply to Post #42 Quote....I'm struggling to think of a single thing I've actually learned from The Grand Fishing Adventure episodes.
Well hold on for series two. According to Ali's adverts he's next in line to be curing hook baits after the Magic Twig & park bench etc have not worked out so well. Now he's suddenly a bait expert, better still he's suddenly going to be curing hook baits.
I can't wait to hear Ali's made up version of what we do on TV. I'm flattered Ali, you are 100% reading this. Less than £2 per KG delivered from Europe? Jee whizz.
I sat back and allowed Mark Holmes to do this to us many years ago. Put my head down and cracked on with our business thinking that was the best thing to do. It put us back years. That will not be happening this time.
These guys.....
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In reply to Post #40 I remember the anticipation as a kid waiting for the next episode of Go Fishing. I rarely get that anymore with any TV show these days TBH. We also used to make fun of John's laugh but I like to think we were laughing with him more than at him.
In the days of old at least you used to be able to take something away from the fishing programmes, even if they seem a bit crude now. I'm struggling to think of a single thing I've actually learned from The Grand Fishing Adventure episodes.
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In reply to Post #40 Dean Macey has the worst laugh for me. Can't watch him at all.
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In reply to Post #39
For those who don't think Ali could get any more childish better not watch this series. While a little bit is o.k, it's overkill, even the Mrs was like 'what a .... .
I'm starting to wonder what this black box on the wall is for.
Last night I reminded myself of the 'good old days' by watching Angling Times John Wilsons Top10, the Bream Special....wow...and yet even back then there were those who hated him and his laugh
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In reply to Post #38 "Not watched this series of Grand Adventure, to be honest if it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't even know it was in"
Maybe give it a go one day if you're bored but please be mindful that you won't get that time back.
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In reply to Post #36 I think it's 50/50. I'm definitely with you in that the last couple of series were better without Ali, although I did prefer the original series where they rotated the anglers. Not watched this series of Grand Adventure, to be honest if it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't even know it was in
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In reply to Post #35 I found it far better without his childish antics
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In reply to Post #35 "I found Monster carp less interesting when he was no longer in it."
I found it so much more enjoyable when he wasn't. I quite liked the last few seasons of monster carp. I think Dove & Spooner make a good pair.
Marmite as you say. Maybe I'm in the minority & the majority find him entertaining.
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I agree, this series has not been that good. It was particularly rubbish on episode 3, looks like it has been setup for a big finale on the last episode this week. I think that fishing on TV needs to be entertaining, watching people in a bivvy watching their rigs on cameras is boring to me.
The first series was miles better than this, fishing for sharks, catching plenty of big fish from Grenville, etc. It was varied and entertaining so I found it much easier to watch in my opinion.
Ali is a marmite character, sometimes he is funny but other times he is complete muppet with a massive ego. I presume he is acting to try and make the show interesting as he is executive producer, but I found Monster carp less interesting when he was no longer in it.
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In reply to Post #33 I'd be amazed if there's another season after this one.
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Is anyone surprised it's a car crash,the guy is an absolute weapon.Its embarrassing how he behaves,the sooner this gets dropped off tv the better
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In reply to Post #31 It was worse than the last show!
Even Roo said that he was embarrassed.
EDIT: I just realised that I'm behind an episode so I tried to watch the latest & the post still applies. Trash.
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Got to say I've not been at all impressed with this series, the last episode was a complete waste of time, even the Mrs said what was that all about!
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Seeing Ali in these shows is like watching a car crash happen in slow motion. His mental decline is slightly concerning & he could use an intervention IMHO.
I wonder if regular folks think we're all like this?
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In reply to Post #20 "love it or hate it...
its still angling on the TV at the end of the day"
Yeah great, encouraging more joeys who think my past time should be polluted with all their chavvy bosh & bruv nonsense. Half these divs who turn up on ponds these days sound and look like they have just finished a 2 year stretch on B wing for selling pub grub.
Never watched a single episode, have no intention to neither.
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Does anyone know where I can get an Ali Hamidi haircut?
I thought it was bang on trend.
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In reply to Post #25 This is true.
They tend to be fishing on a hard gravel bottom or a very clear spot with an in your face popped up hookbait. I get that it's for the camera but it isn't realistic which again means we learn little.
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In reply to Post #25 When the Korda underwater videos first started, someone on here said turn off the commentary and make your own mind up on what's going on.
I haven't seen this TV episode and probably won't but it would be interesting to first watch the underwater footage with the sound down and then again with it up, then see if you agree with the so called expert presenter.
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In reply to Post #24 From filming the rig they are most weary of seems to be a popup , yet .......
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In reply to Post #23 Good point.
99.99% of us don't have the luxury of viewing our sessions underwater. As you say we'd just change up until we catch. So in reality, maybe a camera would only have the potential to speed up the process? Unless you're Ali.
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In reply to Post #22 Tbh , how much have we learnt from underwater , is it better just knowing you got something right when it blasts off and repeat . Other than the way thing land when cast out iv not changed anything because of them .
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Some of these comments are comedy gold.
I didn't see Ali eat any fish s**t so it could be considered as progress?
A few thoughts.
How many days of underwater footage watching carp spook off the hookbait & take the smaller offerings does it take to realise that scaling down & matching might be the way to go?
Why don't they try to camo the cameras? Black stands out like a sore thumb under water. It looked very conspicuous & unnatural.
Why does Ali feel the need to get off with a fish or his fishing partner on every episode?
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I was bored last night ended up watching it. Wasnt too bad tbh he kind of mellowed down a bit. Still made sure to get his partners to kiss him strangely. Mad how picky those carp were they knew exactly what bait not to eat
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In reply to Post #19 love it or hate it...
its still angling on the TV at the end of the day
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In reply to Post #4 Way too much going on with their rigs and hooks baits,.colour etc . Would have been better just putting some 12mm boilie out and fishing a out the bag bottom bait. Be boring tv I guess. I'll still watch it purely because it's intriguing the carp behaviour. Don't mind Ali at all, he is what he is. No ones perfect and everyone's cup of tea eh
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In reply to Post #17 It's Men behaving badly meets the Inbetweeners , not my taste so I don't watch . We all know what's it going to be like , so there is a choice 👍
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In reply to Post #16 You're not wrong. I bet there are more people who watch it and don't comment
Edit, There's a new Trakker one on YouTube too, started a week or so ago, Dover v Spooner ...bit more gentile.
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In reply to Post #14 Pretty obvious how this thread was going to go
Watch it, don't watch it, Ali won't care.
I won't be watching it.
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In reply to Post #14
I didn't really enjoy the 1st programme tbh, how they could draw any conclusions from that, I have no idea. I hope the next ones a bit better !
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Like a bunch of old women. Stop whining and go fishing.
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In reply to Post #9 Ali is everything that's wrong with carp fishing
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Wait! What?
The guy off tipping point fishes - who knew.
I subscribe to his only fans site, but not overly interested in his serious side….
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In reply to Post #10 No, I'd have a box full. I get loads of cats crapping in my garden. I think a long string of Ali's DVDs might deter them 😂
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Not the place to offer a signed copy of the latest dvd then!
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In reply to Post #8 It's so heartwarming to see that Ali is extending his fan base. I don't think that I've ever insulted anybody on a public platform. But this guy is One Major C*** !
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In reply to Post #7 hamidi is one of the biggest ****s in the carp fishing industry.
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Don’t get how he seemed fairly normal in Monster carp to a total bell end in Grand fishing adventure. Tried to watch last series fell asleep during first 2 episodes gave up after that.
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I watched it. Think they blanked 4 nights on the trot, even with placing rigs by hand and baiting by diver and camera.
Of course the magic twig / wand / dildo thing had to make an appearance
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I watched the first season. Couldnt understand his obsession with constantly wanting to kiss Zamora on the lips. Strange. As others have said if he can tone it down it will still be a fishing programme to watch but man the guy gets on my nerves
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In reply to Post #2 Imagine if you were fishing on the same lake as him, you'd have earache for a fortnight.
And I'd also imagine he'll be ramming the ingenious and hugely successful spring loaded self hooking device down our throats.....
Think I'll watch the reruns of Bob and Paul instead.
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I just cant watch anything he is in. Im afraid his levels of annoyance far outwiegh his angling feats for me.
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In reply to Post #1 Rather **** in my hands and clap than watch that pillock,if he could calm down a little it might not be too bad
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Season 4, Grand Fishing Adventure, Ali & cohorts, ITV4 2100.
Started last night, prob available on catch up, 4 programmes total
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