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In reply to Post #74
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG8oOPoKLeG/?igsh=MXdoMXN6NnJtcHIzNA==
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In reply to Post #80
Standard procedure for said user....
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In reply to Post #12
we've all been here before and it usually ends up with someone being banned or someone gets the hump and leaves the forum.
I've just realised the OP has been banned 
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In reply to Post #78
Agreed sickening, also sickening is regimes that want to completely annihilate Jews.
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In reply to Post #77
Absolutely sickening.
To all those complicit I hope you rot in hell.
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In reply to Post #75
Said 50,000! lives lost during the latest Israel conflict, disgraceful 
And the world has just stood by.
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In reply to Post #1
Agree with the first two paragraphs.
Sadly, not the second two (except the Vance speech). 
We are going down the toilet fast.
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People Get bent out of shape because putin is having a ground war in the east of the Ukraine yet don’t say **** about the complete annihilation of Palestine and its people……give ya heads a wobble ffs……. 
Trump has managed to get a ceasefire on the table in less than 80 days in office but is still the bad guy…….what the **** did the kiddy sniffer and his leftie cronies do in 3yrs…….absolutely feck all! Add to the fact Biden and his son were exposed for shady Ukrainian deals and trump gets the hate for Calling it out on live TV……. 
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In reply to Post #73
Threads is owned by Meta. Meta is Facebook.
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In reply to Post #72
Yes we've proved your clueless but many know that and ignore anything you post. Link is not FB.
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In reply to Post #71
I don’t have a Meta (Facebook) account so I can’t read that link. I guess we’ve finally proved a point.
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In reply to Post #70
Some more fake stuff but then you think everything is fake, or is it.
https://www.threads.net/@markvezina/post/DG7YJYpMFaS?xmt=AQGzwm_qhWRGQAARlBYJQk9vWHTHLSWgzsflofFq7m999Q
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In reply to Post #69
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In reply to Post #68
How would a 2001 census pick up public opinion on an invasion that started in 2014?
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In reply to Post #67
You obviously didn't read the last bit or choose to ignore it. I'm not quoting anything from Facebook either as I only use messenger to keep in touch with friends and family.
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In reply to Post #66
I’m not debating whether the UK should have troops on the ground in the Ukraine. That’s another complex matter.
My question to you is where your information is coming from to support that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian’s in the borderlands of Russia are happy to be occupied by force. It seems it either came from one Ukrainian living in England, some Russians or some Polish guys, also in England.
I think you actually read that on a screen and now you are repeating it as fact on this forum. This is how propaganda propagates.
The Russians have been masters at controlling the media since the printing press. Putin understood the power of TV to the Russian people and took over the stations. Now it’s the internet, through sites like Facebook that target a specific demographic that will believe what they read if it fits their values.
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In reply to Post #65
And a vast amount of men of fighting age that had military training fled Ukraine at the start of the conflict, interpret that any way you like ,in my eyes if their own people won't fight for their country why should we ? 2.6 billion yesterday alone while are country falls apart.
And those figures were from a Ukrainian census in 2001.
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In reply to Post #64
If that statistic is correct, I’d be interested where you got the figure. then 82% are not Russian. That’s a very substantial majority of the population that doesn’t want their land to be occupied by force.
Also, just because you are ‘ethnically Russian’ (there are a few interpretations of what this actually means) does not mean that you want to be ruled by Putin.
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In reply to Post #63
I'm sure you know nearly 18% of the population of Ukraine were ethnic Russian's. Approximately eight and a half million.
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In reply to Post #62
So how do you know those people are happy to be occupied by Russia?
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In reply to Post #61
No Ukraine people working here ,only two russian and lots of polish.
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In reply to Post #56
So you spoke directly to the Ukrainian people in the Donbas Region and they told you they wanted to be occupied by the Russians?
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In reply to Post #59
Agree, let’s just hope it’s those two who end up trading missiles!
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In reply to Post #58
More than one step further - he is aligning the US with Russia.
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In reply to Post #54
Interesting, and similar to what I have read. If Ukraine folds it’s a case of who will be next, the European leaders know it, and now Tump has basically took that one step further, deal with it yourself!
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I think trump will be the first president to be KILLED in office since Kennedy.
Now the question is will it again be an inside job or a foreign entity…
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In reply to Post #55
Spoken to both Russian and Ukrainian along with Polish, we live in a very different world now compared to an era when that agreement was made three decades ago and that trump was no part of. The American economy is broke same as ours but trump is trying to fix it and is not a war monger unlike the idiot he replaced. Good luck to o the UK and UN which was funded to a massive extent by the USA.
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In reply to Post #52
I assume you mean conscription? Is your information first hand from the Russian speaking Ukrainians you speak of, or did you read it on a screen?
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The long destructive shadow of Obama's Russia doctrine.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/11/obama-russia-ukraine-war-putin-2014-crimea-georgia-biden/
Interesting article.
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In reply to Post #49
Agreed RKB.
Ukraine have f**k all to be thankful to the US for. The US gave their word to protect Ukraine in exchange for the nukes in 94. Ukraine was/is owed that protection.
"Thank us.... go on.... THANK US"!
F***ing rats.
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In reply to Post #51
Nothing to do with FB, fact is Ukraine had subscription and all were trained in the military and all those of age to fight should do so before we commit any of our troops . If you think we and the un stand any chance against Russia uuuuummm. Possibly but tens of thousands will die on both sides which is pointless when one man has repeatedly refused a piece deal.
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In reply to Post #50
You have this information from the Russian speaking Ukrainians in these regions? Or do you just spend a lot of time on Facebook?
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In reply to Post #48
People of Crimea and Donbass wanted to be part of Russia and were russian speaking and have been murdered and tortured by Ukrainian people for years as said while the world ignored it. As said second most corrupt country in the world and offered peice on several occasions since it started . Offered a deal by trump that would have ensured peice but again not interested.
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In 1994 under the tri-lateral agreement with the US and Russia to dis-arm its nukes, Ukraine was given assurances/guarantees of security in order to do so; look at how that's played out. Had Ukraine kept its nuclear capability I very much doubt Russia would have even attempted to annex Crimea in 2014, let alone the full illegal invasion and war in 2022. Ironically given that Zelenskyy is seeking 'security assurances' from the US now for the future, I'd be pointing out that the US has already let him down significantly in allowing his country to be invaded and any promises for future security probably have no substance to them.
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In reply to Post #47
"Modern Ukraine was entirely created by Russia or, to be more precise, by Bolshevik, Communist Russia," he said.
The process started right after the 1917 revolution, when Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin and his associates "separated, severed what historically Russian land is" to form the Soviet Republic of Ukraine, he added.
Then, another Soviet leader, Joseph Stalin, transferred to Ukraine some lands that previously belonged to Poland, Romania, and Hungary, giving to Poland as compensation "part of what was traditionally German land," Putin also noted.
Finally, in 1954, one more Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, took Crimea away from Russia "for some reason" and also gave it to Ukraine.
"In effect, this is how the territory of modern Ukraine was formed," Putin said.
An now he wants it back. They are an independent state and don't want to be part of Russia, similar to the breakaway states, Chechen War? what happened there!
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In reply to Post #46
Disagree with Putin being the real threat, the land Russia has taken was predominantly occupied by russian speaking civilians who want to be russian and have been persecuted by Ukraine and many were murdered while the world did nothing so Putin did. Zelensky was offered peice talks only two weeks into the war but refused and has done so ever since. Why are we funding the second most corrupt country in the world ? Starmer talking about troops on the ground but let's not forget thousands fled Ukraine and as they have all served under subscription they should be returned to fight for thier country before any of our own are sent out there.
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In reply to Post #45
Politics makes my **** itch but the war in Ukraine concerns me 
I said last time when Trump was in, he got it so right and so wrong and off he goes again!
The press conference was nothing more than an utter embarrassment, staged and truly dreadful and in front of the world, horrendous 
On reflection I can understand them wanting some returns in minerals, why not, they are pumping billions in at the moment, or were.
I can also understand them wanting Europe to stand on its own two feet if I am honest. We need to be united, I believe Putin is a real threat
And, here he goes again, initial stock market crash, 25% import tax for Canada and Mexico and 20% for China.if I was an American citizen I would probably be happy. Opted out of a war and saved a fortune, put a stranglehold on imports which can only be good for US business
But, if anybody could start WW3, it would be this tit
I wish someone would come along and make the UK great again!
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In reply to Post #43
So do all you maha flag shaggers
I wasted my time checking if I'd once made any reference that might make you post that assumption about me, I should've known better, seeing as you reference 'shaggers' kindly feck off.
Fwiw, The minute Trump mentioned mineral rights I thought you'd need boots on the ground to protect them, then a few days later T says no one will mess with us if we're there protecting our rights. Clever way to circumvent NATO military restrictions. Any which way you look at it no one actually gives 2 hoots about Ukraine but it's good to virtue signal. The UN & NATO have stood by and are standing by while atrocious are still being committed around the world but as long as there's a resolution that makes us all feel good, that's ignored by everyone...carry on regardless as if doesn't really affect us 
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In reply to Post #42
So DP
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In reply to Post #42
So do all you maha flag shaggers feel the same now he has just sold Ukriaine down the river at the behest of dear old Vlad.Honestly we have problems I agree but saying that the orange turd or his lickspittle snake oil salesmen Farridge is the answer is just deranged and the showing tonight in the oval office against a Prseident of a country fighting for its very existence is just disgusting beyond belief.
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In reply to Post #41
Yep, that sums it up. Re me, It wasn't even fruity, just not mainstream...lol.
You can't even state facts now without it reflecting on you badly...ho hum.
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In reply to Post #40
I understand that logic. But now I’m more super curious to what you actually typed. It must have been fruity.
So basically we no longer live in a free speech democracy. Some folks have the right to say whatever they want. But the majority must now remain silent. For fear of reprisal literally by the powers that be.
It’s getting madder and madder by the day. Not you by the way. ‘It’. Only bad things can come from it. We saved Europe to keep free speech, yet within a century we then start to suppress it among our own people, about the very issues within our own country. Unless you come from certain minority groups.
Forget political correctness. This what you are speaking about here will lead to Reform getting in rapidly in my opinion. Far more than any boats landing on any beaches. The stuff going on now regarding the farmers is also incredible.
What are the odds now on an emergency GA being called sometime soon? They must be tumbling.
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In reply to Post #39
Perhaps fear was the the wrong word M, but if it adds gravitas to my feelings then so be it. 'They' should feel fear, just as those they disagree with are made to, if people voice a opinion, which 'they' don't agree with.
I did type a reply then deleted it, because I was thinking things which I shouldn't be made to think, as I don't believe free speech still exists, if ever it did, and isn't just a illusion to passify the masses, just like democracy.
Eg, my sisters and wife are in reasonable jobs, it wouldn't be hard to find them or their employers via linkedinn. If it was pointed out that their brother/husband has any opinion that was viewed as other than mainstream, it may reflect badly on them, not directly of course, but in whispers, upon high where the mandate is spread from.
And that's enough for me to reframe from voicing a opinion on a public forum.
I walked the dogs today, I normally say hello to everyone I meet, I'm just like that. 1 person just looked away, another looked at me quizically, isn't it easier to smile or say hello.
Great Britain!
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In reply to Post #38
What you scared of, fear of what?
That photo was taken from a Faceache post yesterday on some comedy page where it was getting ripped to bits. It gained 3k likes I think, mainly angry or laughing faces. You should read some of the comments on that post. Nothing you say could come close to some of the stuff being said on there I'd bet.
It's 2025. It's long been accepted for decades now that being gay or of a different gender is completely normal now. So why is all this happening? I understand we cannot offend anyone. Will an elderly gentleman not be completely offended to be asked before an X-Ray if he's with child first? Does that not matter?
I'll be straight right now, If any Doctor asked me if I am pregnant before an important scan, I'd be instantly asking to go private and for a doctor that is clearly qualified. That one just asked me if I'm preggers, when I'm about to have my balls X-Rayed.
Edit... Ah scared of 'they', I see.
'They' have got Dave from accounts on daytime TV next week, he has an extreme french maids outfit fetish with a unique and quite spicy twist. He might even knock one out onscreen if anyone watching are really lucky. That will be a treat. Might solve truancy. Might scare poor old Doris into having a heart attack. But Dave has his personal story that he wants/needs/has to express.
It's hard to even fathom what the actual feck is going on these days. But it's stuff like this that is the reason we are on the most slippery of slopes as a nation it would seem. Political correctness or whatever you want to call it, gone absolutely bonkers. This seems to becoming the normal. People in other countries who formerly had the upmost respect for us as a nation, are watching all this and laughing at us. There's likely a couple of superpowers licking their lips.
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In reply to Post #37
Edit, deleted post, can't comment, fear has won.
Edit 2, for clarity, not of you M, but 'they'.
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If anyone needs to see why our 'Great' Britain is losing so much respect around the world faster than a hot knife through butter, here it is. Mad stuff like this being forced down everyones throats.
We invented likely more than half the great stuff in the world currently over the last couple of hundred years. We saved Europe twice. The world actually loved us and respected us for all that.
Does anyone truly believe that they respect us for this? Or even believe this is going on everywhere else?
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In reply to Post #32
Nigel's in Cornwall tonight, you going?
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In reply to Post #34
Welcome to 21st century Britain
(Left the great of on purpose)
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In reply to Post #24
Manchester police knocking on doors because some granny said the MP needs sacking so you're about right.
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In reply to Post #31
Lol...
Seriously though Andy is one of the fittest around ,very good cyclist for sure ...
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In reply to Post #30
He turned up in a big **** off extended limo.
But it's ok he planted a small tree to offset his carbon footprint
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In reply to Post #29
Did Andrew Cycle or walk..
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In reply to Post #25
Keep checking your in box Tazi I'm sure anyone who Israeli or Muslim is more than happy to kick off with the last 5 years of planning 👌
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In reply to Post #22
Might soon be time to move to North Korea..
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In reply to Post #22
Careful or you'll have the Left Wing clowns on the thread calling you racist.
Spot on by the way
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When a government that acts against its own people its elderly , disabled ,puts people in prison for a fb post ,then tries to eradicate the farming community and its future ability to grow food for its country..Cover the landscape with windmills ,Solar Farms and builds willy nilly on green belt land that's irreplaceable to flora and fauna ..because of housing all these replacements being allowed in ...under the biggest ,biggest lie and cover up ever,using the net green zero bs,to get you out of your car..
It's called Tyranny...we now live in a woke tyrannical state ,soon it will become cashless,and another move or nod to a social credit system will come closer..
Years ago I warned of otter predation. I got laughed at ..
I warned many people during covid about how you are being lied to,and how much influence the WEF have over the government and daily lives ....I got laughed at ..
I'm correct ,wake the fcuk....up...!
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Trump and Elon Musk’s BRUTAL Secret.
Well worth a watch on Double Down News.
For the ordinary folk your world is well n truly fcuked.
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In reply to Post #19
Agree, and Israel, disgraceful and the super powers and the world just stood by
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In reply to Post #18
Think you may have forgotten about Iran
But those 3 you mentioned are definitely spoiling for a big fight
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America, Russia and Israel are the most dangerous countries on the planet right now.
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In reply to Post #15
That’s just more of our biased media coverage in my honest opinion Clicky. Everyone else is bad, we are still Great Britain. That’s what they portray. Before I went to Brazil for the first time I was slightly worried because of our media coverage. The reality is so different it defies belief. Yes if you go to the favelas in Sao Paulo or Rio you can find trouble. In the same way if you go visit Brixton or Peckham as a tourist you will find trouble. But in general terms, it’s much safer than the UK. Crime in the UK is now glamorised by the masses. Stealing has become more normalised. Over there is carries far greater shame. There are very few firearms like here. But the police walk about with great big shooters. The police are greatly respected there. Like they used to be here. Old people are greatly respected there. Like they used to be here. Children still get a clip round the ear hole there. Without fear of the parents being locked up. Young people have far greater respect because of it. Just like it used to be here. Political correctness has killed us. We have a younger generation now in many parts of the UK with zero respect, but the greatest sense of entitlement.
It’s these type of smaller things that are leading to our nation becoming a wild place. The comments I receive about the UK are always about this sharp decline in general morals. That’s not because of the British people, but due to the complete break down of our identity. We can’t say anything, about anything anymore. Not without being deemed a racist. To hear that Filipino woman speak so openly about the UK’s problems was refreshing. She just spoke how it is. When she comes to London she now meets very few white English speaking people. We are not allowed to do that anymore. We will get locked up for saying stuff like that.
It started with that political correctness, now we are set down some path where we got to where we are today. Everything is now about minorities. The sense of entitlement that has created is shocking. If we are all honest, the Tories became like Labour, and Labour became like the tories. It’s a very British trait to defend our country, I’m very proud to be British. But if we can’t even look at what is really causing the problems, how do they ever get fixed.
The Reform party is not the answer either Framey I agree. We just need more choice in our politics. We just need to be honest about what is causing the sharp decline in our way of life. If we can’t do that, nothings going to change and it’s only going to get worse. If you look at what our governments have done over the last 20 years, they sold off everything we had. Our energy companies are all foreign owned. They sold all our gold for buttons. The Dartford crossing is foreign owned. Key transport and energy in control of other nations. These things were built with tax payers money, then sold off. Would this have happened fifty years ago? Of course not. Our media pushes that we are still great, yet we don’t seem to own much here anymore. That’s the stuff that never gets openly spoken about. Because it’s our governments who have done the dirty on us. We are now in a situation where most young people in the UK will never own their own home. This is fundamental to society, to the family structure. This stuff is not happening in other countries from what I see, just here.
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Do we need change ? yes
Are reform the answer??
Highly unlikely
all I ever hear from that side of the camp is stop the boats as if that will change everything.
However,
I don’t think any there are many other countries that are doing much better than us.
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In reply to Post #14
I wouldn't call Brazil the most safest country to visit either..
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These threads always become left v right, Labour v Conservatives.
All the while we only have two parties that can feasibly win, there will never be any change. They are all as **** as each other.
I had the most incredible conversation with an older Filipino woman in our hotel lobby. Her dog had a Barbour coat on with a Union Jack hanging off it, which started the conversation. She has a half British daughter who lives and works in the city of London. Her daughter pays a fortune in tax, yet her mother has great difficulties staying in the UK now. She has been visiting twice a year for the past twenty years. She was very forthright with her views on our country, and I made her 100% right. She commented how it is now very rare to see white English people when she visits the UK (London). She said this has changed so much over the past ten years. She commented how we were so respected world wide a decade ago, but not anymore. She said political correctness and the crazy liberal views on everything now that is destroying our country and our identity. She commented that it’s incredibly sad what is happening to the UK.
She finished by saying that the UK is no longer a viable option to bring up children in her opinion. This was all from a 60-65 year old Filipino woman in the lobby of a 5 star hotel in Manila.
I agreed with everything she said. I hear the same about us when I am in Brazil.
When I was in Brazil at Christmas, it was all over the news out there daily about the savage that virtually beheaded those young girls in Stockport. He was referred to at all times as terrorist scum. When I flew back to the UK, our news channels were pretty much making excuses for him.
We have lost our way so badly.
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No party ever gives a flying fcuk about anyone but themselves.
The world is fcuked - Needs nuking.
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In reply to Post #11
All I can say is a mate of mine told me that given time Labour will be better.
Ok they've only been in power 7 months and in that time I don't expect them to perform miracles but I thought they could at least steady the ship.
I suppose you want me to list all things so you can pick them apart one by one, but I'm not going to, we've all been here before and it usually ends up with someone being banned or someone gets the hump and leaves the forum.
Just for the record I want the present government to do well but in my opinion things are getting worse and I can't see any signs of improvement in the long term.
Let's hope I'm wrong.
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In reply to Post #10
Labour do a worse job of getting it wrong..... OK.
Lesser of 2 evils? 14 years of ****servatives have driven the UK into the ground. Nothing works and it's on them.
Both parties are against proportional representation. Fartarse wasn't- until the last election. But he's changed his mind now as he's sniffing Reform could do well out of the current system.
Point about Corbybin, kinda misses the point that Labour were elected democratically, although I agree the size of the majority doesn't tell the whole story
We are poorer as a country and the real elites like Johnson, Fartarse, Lice, Trump and Musk have somehow persuaded a significant majority they're on YOUR side while making themselves and their chums richer and the world a much less safer place.
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In reply to Post #9
They are all to blame, they all lie to get or retain power.
The reason Labour don't get in often is they do a worse job of getting it wrong than the Tories.
So it's a case of the lesser of two evils.
The two tier voting system doesn't allow anyone else to get a look in.
Labour has a massive majority but got less votes than Corbyn
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In reply to Post #8
There hasn't been anything like a left wing government in this country since the 1960"s and that was centre left. Blair and Starmer are tories with red ties. And consider this. I'm 62 which means that from being 16 years of age I've had ****servative/coalition government's for the majority of that time. Which in turn means a Labour government has been in power for 13 and a half years out of 46. So, tories have been in power for about 70% of that time. Tell me then, who really is to blame for the state the country is in???
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In reply to Post #6
I agree with your reply that you made to post #1
the Left Wing Woke cancer that infects society needs stamping on, drain this country's Lefty swamps, the education system, the NHS, the central government un elected blob, no more money on Woke, diversity, foreign aid and hotels for terrorists landing on our beaches.
Yes the worrying thing is these morons are in the ascendancy.
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In reply to Post #6
it goes back further than that
Don’t forget the winter of discontent.
Then before that the 3 day week
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In reply to Post #1
Keep on drinking that Kool Aid..... the worrying thing is these morons are in the ascendancy. And it's got NOTHING to do with wokery but a failure of mainstream politics over the last 40 odd years, starting with Thatcher.
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Brexit not working for you boys? PMSL.
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In reply to Post #1
Have to say, magnificent speech that resonated with a LOT of people. He is right, everybody is sick to the back ****ing teeth of it
Some balls for that 
It’s only the woke that won’t like the truth, they like to try and shut everyone down expect fellow believers
It’s simple, it is not acceptable. And after all of the riots linked to Southport, which I didn’t agree with but I can understand why, the suspect was exactly what people were told initially before they tried to sweep it under the carpet as usual, disgraceful.
I’m frum Yorkshire, say it how it is lad or don’t ****ing bother 
Seriously though, freedom of speech, he is right
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In reply to Post #1
Spot on well said...
And totally remove the WEF, expose the biggest lie of all time ..which is the NET GREEN ZERO agenda ..
Not forgetting a prison system ,like El Salvador has done removing the painted criminals ..so people can lead safer lives...
It's coming ,can't wait...let's hope channel four doing its alphabet people month,is the last of this insulting rubbish..
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In reply to Post #1
Spot on 👍
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A Trump, a J D Vance a Musk and Reform.
It can't be any clearer now that the Left Wing Woke cancer that infects society needs stamping on, drain this country's Lefty swamps, the education system, the NHS, the central government un elected blob, no more money on Woke, diversity, foreign aid and hotels for terrorists landing on our beaches.
The Vance speech in Europe nailed it today, what's going to sweep the US is going to sweep Europe, Germany is realising so will the French, Italy and Spain, the UK will follow.
No one voted for this, it's started, revolution is coming, no more rainbows MBGA
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