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In reply to Post #45
My mistake, the Fortis ones then. Either way, waterproofing was poor for the money paid for them (my opinion only).That's why I went back to the snugpak sleeka & salopettes with goretex waterproofs over the top. I have found this to be far superior for my needs.
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In reply to Post #44
The trouble is all coats are designed for normal use walking moving around as fishermen we are a bit different sitting around for hours on end
The proof was when I started to pack up moving around the coat felt warmer
I also have a a speero army type it feels warmer when sitting than torrent
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In reply to Post #43
I also have a pair of the fortis / snugpak tundra salopettes...
Snugpak don't make the Fortis Tundra salopettes.
I actually use the Tundra (salopettes) now and find they're as warm as the Snugpak jobbies. The waterproofing might not be world class but it's miles better than the Snuggys' which have nothing.
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In reply to Post #43
I have the torrent extreme and I also run colder than most after losing more than 10 kg. I didn't try the coat in very cold weather I must add. But I was looking into buying the Fortis Tundra salopettes but now I read your story, I won't haha. I also have the Fortis Marine Jacket but I now also worry that won't be so waterproof as I thought, as that used the same fabric as the Tundra, I think.
In the past I had the Snugpak Sasquatch (not waterproof). Very warm jacket!
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In reply to Post #42
I've had a torrent for a few years now and don't find it that warm either. Its a good coat if you're mobile but I think I run a bit colder than most. I tend to use it if the weather is cold and wet and I want to stay mobile and will be moving swims. And yep, the zip is fiddly, much like the zips on the techlite sleeping bag. Doesn't feel that robust but hasn't failed yet.
If fishing fairly static I stick to my snugpak sleeka softie and sleeka salopettes with goretex waterproofs over the top. Never been cold or got wet using that combination. I also have a pair of the fortis / snugpak tundra salopettes... warm but totally crap when it comes to being waterproof... These have been consigned to the back of the wardrobe.
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In reply to Post #41
Looks like it might be me from the posts I bought the torrent used it fishing yesterday and to be honest I didn’t feel it was that warm
They say in reviews that it is as warm as the sj6 some say it’s warmer as said must be me
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I have the Torrent, sizes are pretty true to size, apart from the zip being a bit fiddly ( might be just my jacket as a design fault ) I can't fault the jacket really. For it's size and thickness it's extremely warm, use it mostly for winter lure fishing from a punt or autumn / early spring cold nights carp fishing ( don't carp fish over winter) but it would be too hot for wandering the banks I think unless it was in minus temperatures
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In reply to Post #36
I've always gone for standard Snugpak rather than the Fortis/Snugpak alternatives and never had an issue sitting/bending down or casting.
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In reply to Post #38
I’ve got the torrent and very happy . Warm and very comfortable.
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I've got the torrent and as said back of it extends a bit further than the sides and front.
It is warm, can't wear it to walk the dog!
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In reply to Post #36
My torrent is great. It’s got a slightly extended back, coupled with salopettes you won’t get a back draft. I’d say size up due to other layers as the padding is ample.
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In reply to Post #35
Thanks for the replies, obviously this isn't designed for fishing so a bit concerned about the length of the body at the back when sitting or bending down and also the length of the arms when casting etc.
How do they fit in this respect?
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In reply to Post #32
Standard Torrent would do the job mate.
The Tundra stuff is great too (especially the salopettes) but not worth an extra 100 quid over the Torrent imo.
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I've had the torrent extreme for around 2 year's now and love it, very warm and waterproof, probably too warm for being active in,has underarm vent zips if it does get a bit too warm,but for static fishing situation its ideal for me, not too long so not sitting on it in the chair so to speak
One tiny gripe is its tight if you try to zip up right to the top around your chin but it's so warm anyway that's not really required.
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In reply to Post #32
If you dont want to splurge on a Rab Valiance (seriously do recommend this jacket) the specs on this one are quite good - decent for the £
Waterproof Thermal
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Resurrecting an old thread rather than start a new one…
I’ve been looking at a new jacket for the colder weather, I’ve currently got a Sleeka Elite but find it a bit short in the Arms and it’s obviously not waterproof.
Been looking at the Snugpak Torrent, Fortis Tundra or potentially going for a Patagonia of some sort, I really like their gear, maybe the Isthmus Parka.
Essentially I’m after a jacket I can sit around under the brolly in so warm but also an element of waterproof too so I can walk to my swim in it or get set up, potentially play a fish etc
I’ve got the Snugpak Salopettes to pair with this jacket and would most of the time be wearing long sleeved t-shirt and my trusty Aran Jumper.
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In reply to Post #29
I have to agree with you on this, wearing a garment puts stress on the material at certain points. More so if you are carrying a rucksack. The pressure on the water at that time will be significantly higher than on a bivvy in the rain. Breathability is important if you are actually sitting out in the rain when match fishing for example . HH stuff is primarily designed for that.
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The HH comes more into play when leaning, kneeling and sitting for clothing, a lot more pressure is being put on the material - bivvies and shelters shouldnt really need to be as much. But depends where you are
But if its too cold outside for the sweat to evaporate it will condense inside and youll get wet that way.
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In reply to Post #28
Agree HH / breathability rating is nonsense for most carp fishing situations as we are either under a brolly / in a bivvy - unless you are a match angler genuinely sitting out in all weathers for 5hrs you need a balance of waterproofness / warmth dependent on the season.
Whats more key is drying speed and static warmth; the more a jacket can shrug off and the quicker it dries in between the next downpour / the warmer and or cooler the jacket when you are not pumping blood through your veins whilst sitting on your *rse the better . . . .if a jacket does both then that's a perfect balance IMO
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In reply to Post #27
It just seems silly to me to be taking off a 20k HH jacket to get into my 5k HH Lo Pro to stay dry. Now I agree that you need more in a jacket than a shelter, but if you consider what the hydrostatic head rating actually means, most of it is specs for specs sake imo (for fishing anyway).
I have a Torrent at 10k and a Goretex jobbie which is almost 30k. In terms of performance, there is no difference. They both keep you dry.
Maybe for skiing 20k is the one, but for skiing you end up on your a*se in frozen water several time a day.
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In reply to Post #26
I'd have to disagree. I've got 10k jackets, north face, jack wolfskin and they work...for a bit. There's surely a reason all the good ski jackets etc are 20k+
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In reply to Post #25
20k is overkill for a jacket imo.
No-one walks round 20 metres underwater worried about water seeping through the weave of their jacket. Even 10k is more than needed.
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The snugpak is a lot of money for only 10000mm hh. I was looking around for awhile and went for a schoffel smock with 20000mm hh. You'd be better off getting a ridgeline for that money.
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In reply to Post #22
Save up I am an oap not a teenager wish I was LOL I don’t want to pay a lot it’s only for fishing thanks for recommendation but I had my eye on torrent was just asking for feedback on that
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In reply to Post #22
buy my buffalo kit the best of the best for less than rab and snugapak - Ive had snugpak and rab and know which one is the best of the 3
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In reply to Post #21
Save some more £ to buy it - not save more £!
Buy cheap buy twice - Valiance is a great all round autumn/winter jacket and no need for a shell!
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In reply to Post #20
Save money rab is double the price
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In reply to Post #1
Save some more £ and get a RAB Valiance - Hydrophobic down and Pertex+ shell - so warmer and waterproof; hood is decent as well!
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In reply to Post #17
I agree mate. The WGTE thing is completely pointless as far as I can tell.
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In reply to Post #17
The sj6 and torrent have exactly same warmth rating,you can check it all on Snugpak website 
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In reply to Post #16
Thanks to you both but what a stupid thing to do using wtge as some sellers are advertising torrent wtge and some just say torrent makes it look like there are 2 different models i might have sent mine back thinking it was old model if it wasn’t for you guys I know there is the extreme that’s very clear
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In reply to Post #14
WTGE is the standard one. It just stands for their motto... we go to extremes, or something like that. Don't underestimate it, it's warm mate.
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In reply to Post #14
Mine isn't that padded,i think it's the outer material that helps keep the wind and rain out.I know the fortis coats feel alot more padded but my Torrent is extremely warm,I would be shocked if yours isn't
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In reply to Post #13
I ordered the torrent it’s come anyone know what does torrent wgte mean is this different than a standard torrent
Well first impression is it doesn’t seem that warm compared to a sj6 I tried on while back it doesn’t seem there’s a lot of padding got the impression it’s more of a spring autumn jacket can’t see it be any good for winter or is it me happy to be wrong
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I have the original one, it's a superb jacket. The armpit vents work a treat at regulating temps so you don't sweat. I very rarely feel the need for anything other than a t-**** under it. It very much isn't waterproof though. If I lost mine I'd not question buying the new waterproof one.
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In reply to Post #11
Totally agree I tried to get a sj6 gave up last year tried 4 all completely different ridiculous sizing
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In reply to Post #7
Are they more accurate than the Fortis stuff, cus their stuff is all over the place.
All Snugpak stuff is a bit all over the place with sizing, including the Fortis jobbies. Luck of the draw mate. I had to return 2 SJ9's to get one that fitted really well. With the Torrent I was lucky first time.
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In reply to Post #2
I’ve got the Snugpak Torrent and the Olive Snugpak salopettes, great combo 👍
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In reply to Post #8
Cheers for that mate 👍
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In reply to Post #7
I ordered my normal size and it fits perfectly
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In reply to Post #4
What’s the sizing like Tony? I’d have to order online so no chance of trying on prior to buying.
Are they more accurate than the Fortis stuff, cus their stuff is all over the place.
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In reply to Post #1
It's basically a waterproof SJ6. The Torrent Extreme is the equivalent of the SJ9 (slightly warmer in fact).
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In reply to Post #3
Yes defiantly. Very well made and for the price it’s hard to beat
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In reply to Post #3
I love mine,use it for everyday wear.Its warm enough with just a t-shirt on underneath when walking about and I've never felt cold in it
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks for reply do you think it’s worth the money
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I use the torrent and really like it. Don’t think it’s a red hot jacket. But certainly keeps you warm. I wear a thermal top, thin buffalo softie jacket and my coat and never been cold.
Gone to thermal salopettes this year to keep the legs warmer, so should be good to go.
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Any feedback on this jacket please thinking it might be to hot like the sj 9 or is it not to hot it would be used for autumn winter fishing
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