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Braid with non ceramic eye (11 posts / 1,891 views)
Smudge79 Smudge79
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Post #1 8 Sep 2024 19:53
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Has anyone had any problems using braid with non ceramic eyes such as minima, vortex style?

Both my sets of rods have these type guides with a ceramic tip ring only. I've head mixed reports but nothing first hand

Was going to use them for some predator fishing this winter but don't want to ruin them
The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #2 8 Sep 2024 20:34
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In reply to Post #1
I'm in the middle of having my vortex eyes replaced with ceramic lined eyes as have some tiny grooves worn into the vortex using only xline fluorocarbon through them.
Smudge79 Smudge79
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Post #3 9 Sep 2024 06:41
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In reply to Post #2
Cheers, I don't think I will risk it then.
The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #4 9 Sep 2024 11:58
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In reply to Post #3
They're nice eyes but if they do that on fluoro then I'd expect braid to cause worse so I personally wouldn't risk it.
jack1welsh jack1welsh
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Post #5 10 Sep 2024 07:09
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In reply to Post #1
I have minimas on my Torrix TE's from Cotswold rods.
Used braid (round profile smooth) and X-line (20lb), almost exclusively for the last 8 years without issue.
Smudge79 Smudge79
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Post #6 10 Sep 2024 14:36
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That's interesting and follows what I meant in the original post about hearing mixed reports.

It seems some people have experienced no issues and others using the same brand/type of ring have?

I wonder if there is a lot of variance in the heat treatment/hardness of the metal ring liner or something of that sort?
Rarebit Rarebit
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Post #7 10 Sep 2024 18:06
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Do you know what brand yours are? I have a few different rods with this style guides but not had any issues so far.
Smudge79 Smudge79
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Post #8 10 Sep 2024 20:20
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In reply to Post #7
Yes I got a set of torrix te and some 10ft Gardner coverts which both have vortex guides
jeffire jeffire
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Post #9 10 Sep 2024 22:39
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In reply to Post #8
Vortex guides are not recommended to be used with braided mainlines . I have changed countless minimas that have grooved and not only with braid but also with mono. I have heard the minimas are made differently now but cant confirm this.
Smudge79 Smudge79
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Post #10 11 Sep 2024 11:44
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In reply to Post #9
To be fair when they first come out I really liked these guides because of the the lightness but now a good few years on, they seem a bit of a fad/novelty and I wouldn't have them on any future set of rods again
jeffire jeffire
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Post #11 11 Sep 2024 14:57
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In reply to Post #10
I have never got the need for light guides on carp rods unless its on a stalking rod .
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