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In reply to Post #69 Exactly Cam. I printed letters for my wife, son and daughter-in-law. I wanted as much presence at the Pool as possible. We were also feeding the fish as well, which the ducks seemed very grateful for.
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In reply to Post #68 Can't remember if I actually fished but I was a bailiff on a syndicate at the time and went to the lake every day.
I carried a letter from the lake owner stating why I was there if I needed it. same reasons as you Andy. no doubt.
I never needed it.
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In reply to Post #67 He could have pointed out that technically he was allowed to fish, as it was his job.
I called the local police and told them that I would be allowing two members to fish each night as a security measure after two other local lakes had problems. The police just said that they didn't blame me. I did however tell the members not to put any pictures of fish etc. on social media.
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I never knew the guy was such a Fruit Loop until he put this on his FB page last night and then ridiculed me for my reply. Fair enough we all have a right to have our own views but in his post he is being completely derogatory to the majority of us that would loved to have gone fishing during Covid but chose to abide by the rules.
With someone that has their own subscription channel, maybe with young anglers viewing ,then surely he should be promoting best practice and not belittling people that abide by the law of the land while they think it's okay for them to break the law ??
Adam Penning wrote :
Here's a couple of lockdown carp. Had a fair few at night too and some right units.
'What, you did NIGHTS?!' I hear the covid police shout. Yes I bloody well did.
While the PC crowd were loudly obeying, virtue signalling and commanding everyone else to do the same, some of us dared to go out into the countryside. It was the one time that carp fishing became an extreme sport.
Thing is that we lost many fit young men to suicide - the figures rocketed to record levels. Young men who were no danger to anyone except themselves, suddenly locked indoors while many well-known anglers loudly condemned anyone for even thinking about going fishing.
With the passing of years we can see how mad it all was. Yet still no apology from anyone. No accountability from anyone.
Sincere apologies if anyone's nan has died while I wrote this post without a mask on.
#neveragain
@minds.matter.carping_
#mentalhelath
#mentalhealthawareness
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In reply to Post #43 “Co-morbidity” covers a huge percentage of the population. I'd guess a huge percentage of Forum users too.
For COVID being any age and fat, having high blood pressure, asthma, diabetes, anxiety, or depression all counted as co-morbidities.
A 30 year old marathon runner who needs an asthma inhaler occasionally was “co morbid” in spite of being fitter than most of the population.
Any man who is 5'10' and weighs 15 stone or over counted as co-morbid.
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In reply to Post #63 "was an ideal opportunity to cut through the current bs"
I couldn't agree more.
Still enough about bloody Covid & pandemics - lets get back to fishing!
I'll always be grateful to the Angling Trust for being so politically savvy as to get anglers back out. Made all the sweeter by the fact that my golf playing friends were still unable to play.
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In reply to Post #62 What was evident was the lack of cohesive global cooperation in terms of approach and resolution - it was an ideal opportunity to cut through the current bs between 'sovereign' states and come together to fight a common global enemy for once . . . as usual a selfish set of privileged individuals (particularly in our lovely government) used it as a platform to make money; whilst the rest of us sucked it up and now have a huge bill to cover. . . .
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In reply to Post #61 I agree that there was plenty wrong with the UK's response to the pandemic. The real reason for the lockdowns was to prevent the NHS from becoming overwhelmed.
Governments all over the western world saw what was happening in Italy in Feb 2020 - Drs making life or death decisions based on age, mortuaries overwhelmed and bodies stored on ice rinks, healthcare services on the brink of collapse.
In modern societies there is an expectation of availability of healthcare. With the last pandemic just after WW1 there was no expectation to call 999 and have medical care on tap.
Healthcare collapses = breakdown of society. Think what lengths you would go to if one of your loved ones needed healthcare and none was available.
Looking back through history most pandemic in the last 380yrs have taken between 5 - 14yrs to reach the much misunderstood ‘herd immunity', via of course lots of deaths in the interim.
There is zero doubt that vaccines bought the pandemic to a controllable level within 2yrs thus allowing us all to get back to normal faster and saving literally 10s of millions of lives worldwide.
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In reply to Post #57 My other half nearly died from Covid (much later on in the latter stages of the outbreak) so it was definitely 'real' . . . . however I still have my doubts as to its actual origin / the specifics of how our government (compared to some other more 'advanced' countries) dealt with it / and the reality of its net effect on our children's education / mental health, our economy and the overt legislation changes set up for any potential future occurrences. On this basis (and yes its based on gut rather than a set of perhaps blurred facts) I do believe a lot of the real truths will emerge in a couple of decades time . . . . . or maybe not!
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In reply to Post #58 Yer I just made that mistake.... The guy is very paranoid.
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In reply to Post #57 A superb post.
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In reply to Post #57 I've just taken a look at his Twitter account and he is fully down the conspiracy rabbit hole
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In reply to Post #42 I work for the NHS as well and I agree 100% - Covid did for plenty of otherwise healthy people.
During the Covid period I foolishly got drawn into a Twitter spat with Penning and one of his mates from Sticky. I think at the time he was likening those who were vaccinating to war criminals.
I invited Penning to come to the ICU at Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford,(easy for him to get to), where we had several otherwise fit & healthy people who were fighting for their lives with Covid. None of them were vaccinated and all of them without fail asked to be jabbed whilst in Hospital. Obviously too late for that by then. Strangely Penning didn't take me up on the offer!
As I said to him at the time have the vaccine or not, it is entirely your choice, no one is forcing anyone, but please don't spread stupid misinformation. Only an idiot can believe they know better that 98.7%+ of the world's medical professionals. Or maybe they are a cabal of lizard people with a despotic plan to enslave humanity!!
I met Penning way back late 80's/early 90's at Nazeing and he seemed like a normal bloke then along with his mates - beer, birds & fishing...........
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neo fascist really ? get a grip
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Back to the video I liked it 👍
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In reply to Post #53 'neo fascist'
Ironic really, as authoritarianism and the need to suppress discussion was alive and well when you were told to stay at home, grassing up your neighbours for going on two walks a day, driving the dog too far from your front door, or for having the wrong views
If you're going to flounce from a fishing forum for not liking someone's views, or get offended because of the mere presence of a bloke on fishing video on YouTube, you probably do need to get out more (your admission above, not mine)
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In reply to Post #51 Conflating several things which have nothing to do with each other is a typical tactic of a neo fascist please close this thread, as it has been taken. over by some very strange people indeed I'm on the verge of leaving this forum altogether.
When several members I thoroughly respect stop posting i will do the same.
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In reply to Post #51 I can see why your a penners fan
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In reply to Post #49 As evidenced by the successes of the Swedish approach, lockdowns did more damage to society than the virus itself.
Judging by the education gap within schools, the lack of staffing within elderly care due to forced vaccine mandates on sceptical BAME employees, and empty commercial premises due to forced closure, the lockdown had a massive negative effect on our society, and I was against it from the beginning.
Scanning a QR code whilst eating your half price burger did absolutely **** all for the economy, taking a billion quid out of the public purse, and suddenly covid didn't exist for those who lapped it up. The only thing we got angry about whilst getting paid to sit on our arses getting given 'free' money and eating half price burgers was that a blonde fella blew out candles on a cake.
I've always been of the view that the world will look back at 2020 as one of the worst failures of humanity and government ever seen, it'll just take time for others to catch up.
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In reply to Post #44 You have heard of Midazolam right?
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In reply to Post #48 If a virus was killing your demographic yet was spread by everyone I'm sure you'd be calling for lockdowns too but because covid pretty much only killed the elderly and already sick then you didn't care.
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In reply to Post #44 " So its ok for “oldies” to be killed off then is it? "
Of course not, however if MPox was only killing a specific group of people, would you shut the whole country down and send school kids home for a year?
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In reply to Post #1 I quite like Mr Penning; from what I see and can gather he's a solid angler irrespective of his brand loyalties / conspiracy opinions . . .he's a bit 'monotone' on the detail and how he comes across on camera could be viewed as marmite however I'm sure he'd be an interesting person to fish / have a beer with . . .could be wrong but he's probably a few notches smarter than the average carp star but perhaps not educated beyond a certain level hence his need to express himself whatever way he chooses . . . free country tbf . . .
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In reply to Post #45 Good old Covid, clearing out the ‘deadwood'.
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In reply to Post #43 Omit what fact?
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In reply to Post #43 So its ok for “oldies” to be killed off then is it?
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In reply to Post #42 Yet statistically, it was killing oldies or those with co-morbidities. It did then, it does now. Many fail to omit that fact.
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In reply to Post #41 Can confirm.... I work for the ambulance service and covid deffinaly was what it was made out to be. I hope I never have to see times like them again
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In reply to Post #40 No mate. Vax to make it flu not hospital and stop transmission with masks. Weren't that long ago. You got long COVID or just daft?
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In reply to Post #13 " Not watched or read anything from him since he come out with the conspiracy theories during covid "
Which ones?
The one where he said it came from an infected bat in a food market and the only way to stop transmission was to get two jabs and multiple boos.....oh hang on that was the Government that said that.
I worry more about people who believe everything they are told than those who question the moon landings tbh.
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In reply to Post #38 Thought it was a good video , moved around just how I like to fish , the whole thing was carp related, nothing to offend anyone in it 🤔 , just saying 😀
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Adam Penning.
Nothing
Nobody
Irrelevant
Get a life.
Skint
Weak
Desperate
Noddy
He's not coming out
****ers
Adam, I know for a fact u read this site, DM me nate I'll do u 48 on my water just like our friend.
60's🤔
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In reply to Post #35 BANNED
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In reply to Post #34 I heard he had dropped off the end of the world
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In reply to Post #29 “please ban me, so I can say I've been banned”
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In reply to Post #33 I heard he was driving through the Pont de L'Alma tunnel on 31st Aug 97 on his way to a lake......
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In reply to Post #32 Another was he threatened a pensioner with a baseball bat or sometime that
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In reply to Post #31 No. Forgetting his microphone was still on. I believe he expressed some frank opinions. Well that's the story that was doing the rounds. Not verified.
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In reply to Post #30 The show and the korda crusher incident by any chance
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In reply to Post #28 He used to work with korda, anyone remember what happened there
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In reply to Post #26
I bet just pointing this out will probably give some people the urge to call for my banning from the forum... we'll see.
These types of comment always makes me laugh.
"These days if you say you're English, you'll get arrested and thrown in jail"
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In reply to Post #26 Pretty sure no one was imprisoned for expressing concerns about immigration levels. On the other hand if you're stiring up racial hatred and inciting violence then you only have yourself to blame.
Anyway back to Penners. His views aren't the problem, what is a problem is a well know career angler with a media presence and sponsors to keep happy, arguing with rando's on social media. It's frankly unprofessional.
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In reply to Post #26 I think that's part of the problem - people on the "extreme" ends are as bad as each other. If you don't agree with an alternative view you are accused of being establishment. "Do your own research" they say - which is normally from some non-peer reviewed stuff posted on YouTube or Google (or worse!) by someone who has no expertise in a subject, but has just read other non-peer reviewed stuff off Youtube or Google (or worse!) posted by someone who has no expertise in a subject. And if still don't agree, the legion of followers will all say you're a sheep (whilst blindly following the narrative from whoever they agree with...... like sheep)
I blame social media. And Kool Aid. And the Deep Bait (eh Wayne )
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In reply to Post #24 nah i've not seen anyone request that he be put to death, just talking generally about how some people react to hearing stuff they dont like. Recently there was a man who was a labour councilor calling for the throats of his opponents to be slit. That kinda stuff....
the establishment narrative on various topics, here are some examples:
1. Covid Jabs = Safe and Effective, to speak to the contrary was very much "frowned upon" - i remember seeing people be demonized as Anti-Vaxxer, and how they should be shunned from society, be treated as a 2nd class citizen etc etc.
2. Recent Riots/Protests: Some absolute morons decide to loot lush and greggs and they deserve whats coming, burning of hotels as well, vile behaviour also BUT if you dare express concern about immigration levels in the UK on social media, you are a white supremacist, no nuance, nothing... Prison time for you...
Those are just examples of "approved establishment narratives" off the top of my head, i have no idea on Adam's stance on everything nor will be defending any of his stances, not my place to.
Just pointing why I think there is controversy surrounding him.
I bet just pointing this out will probably give some people the urge to call for my banning from the forum... we'll see.
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In reply to Post #23 Just asking.... what exactly is the establishment narrative?
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In reply to Post #23 Nobody is saying he should be put to death for believing the world is flat. Just that he's a plonker who loves the sound of his own voice and isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
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The only reason I see controversy surrounding Adam is because he discusses view points on topics which fall outside of the establishment narrative.
Some people are able to listen to other view points and get on with their lives, some people are so greatly affected by a view point that challenges their own, they would sometimes call for them to be censored, permanent incarceration, or death in some cases, of those individuals.
The later is crazy to me, people who seek to silence others have nearly always been on the side of evil through out history.
He's a good angler, he's responsive on social media and has always offered advice when I've asked him.
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In reply to Post #21 No smoke,without fire..
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In reply to Post #15 Do you think everything is a conspiracy theory or some of it could be true?
Moon landings, Jabs messing up your body etc etc.. 🙂
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I've met him several times at various shows and events. I've always found him polite and friendly and not at all up himself. He fished a water that I have a ticket for and I've never heard anyone slagging him off. So I speak how I find. I don't have twitter so I can't comment about any stuff outside of angling, I quite enjoy his relaxed style of videos, not all bruv and geez etc etc.
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In reply to Post #17 That'd be me too
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I met him once on Trilakes years ago, seemed a decent enough bloke, I don't understand the interest these people garner, or the disdain.
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I'd like to see his reaction if he came on my water and said hello. I'd be polite and chat to him if I wasn't too busy but he would probably think I'm a bit rude as I wouldn't acknowledge any of his ‘fame'.
I wouldn't be being rude but quite simply I wouldn't recognise him, along 95% of the vloggers, bloggers, podder's, grifters, influencers, media whores or wannabe's.
Just the way it is
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In reply to Post #12
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In reply to Post #13 He can be an utter knob on social media, seen him get In arguments about his wife banning pushchairs from her cafe. Seen him push multiple conspiracy theories including the moon landings being fake. He also had an “ask penners” account on Twitter where he gave condescending answers to legitimate questions.
Shame because he's a good angler
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I don't understand the interest in named anglers, sponsorships and their loyalty to them.
See you all on another thread
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Not watched or read anything from him since he come out with the conspiracy theories during covid.
But last time I saw him do a tackle vid it was for prologic. There is people who are sponsored by sticky who are not TA like maker with Korda and Hearn with ESP
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In reply to Post #3 When I made the original post, i wasn't quite sure what the point was. I mean something had changed in the way i reacted to that video compared to previous ones.
I now think I had a moment like Dorothy had, when Toto pulls back the curtain , and the mighty Oz is revealed as a mere man who isn't doing his job properly. A feeling of disappointment and disenchantment. Clearly I need to get out more.
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In reply to Post #7
He's a strange bloke, that's for sure!
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He'd sell his nan for a few quid fact!
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In reply to Post #6 I'm sure he was with pro logic a while back
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In reply to Post #7 He's a hard watch imo. I only managed half way through. Knows his stuff though so I'm sure plenty will find it informative.
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In reply to Post #6 Because he is a massive bell end
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In reply to Post #5 I wasn't aware of that, obviously explains the reason for this video. He's been with sticky for years, but never mentioned T.A.. perhaps his deal with them has changed, and T.A. see him as an underused resource.
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T.A is owned by Sticky there for Sticky owns pen mong
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In reply to Post #3 TBH he lost me when he said he was a Penning fan boy.
Is That like the old school Shim? Or is he really one of these 20's rent boys that can't recast till Danny or Dove tells them to?
It comes to something doesn't it when u have to worry about being groomed about your rigs and the state if your arse, yippy I I a
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In reply to Post #1 And the problem is???
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In reply to Post #1 I don't rrallybunderstand your point. If he is posting stuff behind a pay wall, he needs to still appear in other videos in order to advertise to get people to join.
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Funny how Mr Penning is appearing on T.A. after setting up his own pay to join academy on u-tube.I was a Penners fanboy, but obviously, also one who refused to pay for him to catch carp instead of working for a living.
Apparently the banks of day ticket lakes aren't paved with gold.
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