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In reply to Post #27
The poles were sh*t on the original models and still going? Thats Pee poor!!
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In reply to Post #59
I have the Rs100 bivvy + skull cap + magnetic mozzie mesh.
Can't fault it. Perfect size. Quick up, quick down.
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How are people getting on with their tempest rs bivvies in the long term?
I was going to go for the brolly but saw the rs 100 bivvy is £799... the rs brolly with the same infill, groundsheet and sticks is about £730 ish.
Not much between them cost wise but the bivvy is 5 cm taller and a bit bigger overall, it's a tough choice.
I think Trakker will probably release a new version in spring next year as well 
Did anyone else have to make a decision between the brolly and bivvy and were you happy with your choice?
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In reply to Post #57
I was after a tempet 100 aquatexx ev bivvy for ages. Keeping my eyes on sales etc as i refuse to pay what they wanted. Got the bivvy, skull cap and skull wrap, and pretty sure the mozzy mesh for £550 when angling direct sold them off cheap when the rs was due out.
Read a few stories about the material going funny when damp, but its been spot on for me.
They will no doubt bring out an improved material and add a few £100 to the price soon.
The new nylon tempest should br decent. That nylon on my 100 brolly v2 was decent, and dried really quick
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In reply to Post #49
My mate has just bought a rs and i was surprised how thin and cheap the material looked compared to my ultralite 100. Some cracking deals on the ultralite with skull cap at the moment as well. Paid £500 for mine but seen them as low as £450 which is the bargain of the year with how much a top end bivvy costs these days.
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In reply to Post #55
Think I'll stick with me Nash.
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In reply to Post #54
Between the layers
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In reply to Post #53
Any inside or just between bivvy top and vapour shield?
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In reply to Post #52
It will still get condensation,you just won't be see it.If you pack bivvy away with vapour shield fitted and it's still damp it will end up wrecked.It will trap between the two layers and go mouldy
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So basically the RS150 with vapour shield/peak is still bad for condensation?
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In reply to Post #49
Yep to this. Had mine more than a year and its brilliant. No condensation, great space, quick to put up.
Not saying the Tempests aren't good but I do love my ultralite
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In reply to Post #49
Love mine,won't change it for anything around at the moment
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In reply to Post #48
Ultralite 100 still rules then! Thicker material / solid build / zero condensation / permanent skull cap / decent rake & door height. . . get one before they discontinue again!
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In reply to Post #47
Vapour shield won't stop it just cover it up. Plus also get it down sides. Needs an overwrap..I just think the material isnt as good or as thick as the aquatexx ev.
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In reply to Post #46
Yeah that is basically in line with what I have read and what people have said. Having a look online the RS150 vapour shield is also sold out everywhere lol so people must of been dying to get hold of them.
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In reply to Post #39
Sold mine as I got condensation with front and cap on and a mate has one and everytime he uses with no front there is loads. The previous material was superior. The new design is good however. They are bringing out overwraps later on in year I believe. Currently use a quest mk3 with overwrap and not a drop with full front on it. Also zip in Groundsheet which trakker need to introduce IMO.
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In reply to Post #44
Yeah in all honesty with no front on condensation shouldn't really be an issue as technically the inside of your bivvy will be roughly the same temp as outside. Would love to know with the door on what the results are.
Either way as mentioned I do like the look of it and if it wasnt for the low height would of owned one myself so not knocking it at all was just quoting what others have said
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In reply to Post #39
Well I was out again last night, dropped to 3 degrees and not one drop of condensation, my old nylon 100 would’ve been soaked.
I don’t think they just released the vapour shield because of issues, the RS range were released with the attachments for it so it must have always been planned.
It maybe worse with the front on but currently, it’s performing better than any previous aquatex or nylon bivvys I’ve had.
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In reply to Post #42
I did actually watch that video yesterday and yes he's right. Not really a social cap, more of an extension. But thats really what im after, as will mean more room for me on French trips and somewhere to hang my disco ball in.
He could probably do with a smaller table as well
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In reply to Post #41
Lol yeah the led looks tacky af. Can only assume in the flesh will be better on low white as photo shows individual leds a lot easier. They had to justify the £120 price tag somehow 
Here is a little review I watched on Youtube with the RS150 with social cap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixG0dimW5Q&t=24s
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In reply to Post #36
Just seen the internal shield. Turn your bivvy into a disco!!!
Prefer the skull cap to be honest as it adds an external peak.
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In reply to Post #36
I am currently using a Nash Titan Hide XL Camo Pro with an internal vapour shield and it has never suffered from condensation. To be honest, i cant fault the Nash but i really need something that I can fit a social cap on and unfortunately Nash dont do them. Looked at the Frontier but they only do an extended cap which is too big.
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In reply to Post #38
The Rs150 is only 150cm high which for someone like myself is a struggle having a really poor back. If it was in line with the titan t1 pro or even the lower frontier XD I would of bought one tomorrow as do like the ease of setup and quality material.
As for condensation I can only quote on many reports including reviews on YouTube. If it wasn't an issue not sure why they just released the vapour shield to specifically combat condensation.
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In reply to Post #36
Interesting, I’ve just flogged my tempest 100 as it was too low for my knackered back and now using an RS Brolly and the height is so much better. Coupled with a higher bedchair I can actually move around the morning after a night on the bank. As for condensation, I haven’t had a drop, used it the first time with the skull cap and since then not bothered as don’t need it, that’s without the front on. I’ve been well impressed with the material.
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In reply to Post #36
Like they couldn't be bothered to do enough testing on an upgrade to ensure no condensation. These people are taking the piss and taking your money. For everyone's sake stop buying overpriced underdeveloped equipment. It shouldn't take version 4.0 to correct design faults. Especially not at these prices. I have trakker bivvies, I'm not buying another one unless they pull their finger, out, snd stop extracting the micturation from the ordinary increasingly impecunios punter. That arse hole trump has just wiped 20% off my pension. I'm going to have to give this hobby up soon if things don't change.
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In reply to Post #35
I was going to get one of these myself but decided against it as just too low for my bad back. From what I have read they great bivvys but suffer severely from condensation. They just released a vapour shield you can fit inside of the bivvy that will solve this and it also has a built in led strip for lighting. Probably worth adding to the cart 
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Going to be ordering an RS150 bivvy, skull cap and the magnetic insect panel. Looking like being around £1180. This will be my last big purchase so i want to make sure I am getting the best thats out there.
Might even get a social cap for France trips but thats going to set me bck another £400.
So, am i getting a seriously good bivvy or just a very overpriced one?
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I have just bought the trakker tempest rs 100 and the first time I used it the middle pole snapped at the knuckle.
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I've the brolly RS, it's the perfect size for anything 24 hours to a week. Great bit of kit, built well IMO. But you'll always have those who love a whine or three. Forum fish wives. Take anything off here with a huge pinch of salt.
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The original 100T in the new RS version is 10 cm smaller in height? Seems odd to go shorter.
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In reply to Post #30
I didn’t bother speaking to Trakker tbh.
I bought a replacement from their spares website for £45 delivered.
I just wanted it up and running again asap.
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In reply to Post #27
what happened about this??
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In reply to Post #28
Don't think I'll bother then.
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In reply to Post #27
Not the first person I've heard having issues
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Not impressed, had my RS150 up
In the garden today drying after packing up in the rain yesterday.
One of the metal poles just sheared in the knuckle and now needs replaced. Only used it 5 times.
Now I’m about to find out how good the customer service is.
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In reply to Post #24
Im sure something like that will be on the mk2 version to justify the astronomically price. I can imagine it would be quite difficult to pull them pole out of the knuckle with wet slippy hands. It definitely needs a little flange or something to hold onto.
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In reply to Post #24
Mmmmmmmmm 🍩
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In reply to Post #16
I have the rs150. Also the older 100t. Over nights or as a day shelter the 100t is fine. For longer sessions then the rs150.
Downside is the plastic elbows are flipping tight to pull open. I have health issues and grip is poor and trying ro hold and pull two half's apart was a piggin mare.
I ended making some plastic doughnuts with grub screw in. Slid them up the tube, from bottom. Then clamp them 10mm from the elbow. Makes life so much easier and does not damage anything. The grub screws have rubber inserts to help prevent digging into the tube paint
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In reply to Post #20
It's a cost saving thing for Trakker 
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In reply to Post #21
I would say 95% will be on a barrow.
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In reply to Post #20
There's a certain irony from the marketing pov in that most will end up on barrows where weights a mute point 
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In reply to Post #19
Think its a weight saving thing to ensure the stats look better for all those mobile wannabees. . .daft really as if your going to bother using a groundsheet it really needs to be heavy (like the original Armo gsheets) and maybe priced as a separate accessory rather than a bundled cost.
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In reply to Post #18
Appreciate the idea, but that's more work for something that is already costing a fair whack.
I don't blame you for thinking that. No I don't have a RS but if the GS is thinner that's a bit of a poor show from Trakker.
A lot of manufacturers cut costs on their GS. I'm out of touch, my last purchase was the Air V2 and that groundsheet was very poor compared to my old Fox Eurodome ground sheet. Cost of tent seems to be irrelevant nowadays, even expensive family tents have really poor associated ground sheets, just plain nylon or polyester weave and thin at that. Whenever we buy a new tent we always buy a HD GS for it, lots of sellers on Ebay, I'll be doing the same if I get the RS, which I'm sorely tempted by, if it's GS isn't up to scratch. I'm still using my Eurodome GS with my Air V2.
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In reply to Post #17
Appreciate the idea, but that's more work for something that is already costing a fair whack.
Do you have one? Is the groundsheet thinner than previous versions of it?
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In reply to Post #16
One other question, how is the groundsheet? I've seen some mention it seems thinner than previous ones, is this correct?
I wouldn't let that put you off, you can always use the original as a template and cut one from a much heavier duty material if it bothers you
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Thanks for all the replies.
I get it's a costly bit of kit but I'm expecting it to last a fair while.
One other question, how is the groundsheet? I've seen some mention it seems thinner than previous ones, is this correct?
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In reply to Post #13
It's because people keep paying it,wait a few months and prices normally drop
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I seriously looked at one to buy (rs brolly) a short while back, but certain elements made me think again and not buying it and keeping my Fox Frontier X.
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In reply to Post #12
Yes those prices are just insane, I can't honestly see how they can justify those prices.
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In reply to Post #11
Thicker fabric = dries out slower. There's always a positive and negative.
The more people willing to pay ridiculous money for a slightly updated tempest rs the more encouraging it is for Trakker to keep hiking prices and their profit margins.
£900 for a 100 aquatexx which was half that price not long ago is simply outrageous imo.
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In reply to Post #10
Plus that has thicker fabric aswel. Doesn't mean it's better quality though, but still. That always strikes me when comparing Trakker's and Aqua's Aquatexx: Aqua's is much thicker.
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In reply to Post #8
Makes it look even more expensive when you can get a aqua pioneer ultralite and skull cap for less than £400 now.
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Also got the RS100 and agree, it is the perfect shelter for me. One niggle is the groundsheet, don't like clip-in jobs personally.
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In reply to Post #1
My RS150 is holding up well and a great bit of kit IMHO, only real down side is the cost however, most good items are expensive these days.
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Anyone know if there are any plans to bring out a Utility front for the RS range or if previous front will suffice?
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In reply to Post #1
All good for now 👍
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In reply to Post #3
I've also got the standard 100T with cap, wrap, social and it's been perfect, I see the aquatex 100T has also now been discontinued, this was probably required as it was so underpriced at a mere £599 rrp.
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In reply to Post #3
I got the RS100, perfect...been out about 20 nights and very easy set up, pack down.
Love mine
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I've used the normal 100T for a few years and it's fast to setup with no issues and doesn't cost the earth.
They also purposely made the new RS range NOT fit any of the non-RS accessories like infill panels, skull caps, wraps etc so that if you just fancied upgrading your core bivvy......you can't unless you buy all the accessories you regularly use with it.
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Eye watering prices for the kit. Is it worth £979 ( usually available at £879+) for a 150 size bivvy?  The 100 is £899 - 944.99rrp... discounted to £799 - £850 ish.... Social caps are £400 - £450 rrp alone...
Lol.. . Makes a Nash titan or Fox Frontier look cheap....
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Just after some user reviews if possible, I know some people said they had concerns about the plastic knuckle/spring, so mainly want to hear if anyone has had any issues with these yet as I'm looking at getting one in the new year.
Thanks
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