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In reply to Post #218
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In reply to Post #217
That's reassuring! Tested my 12lb (new) technium with peddle boat on a park lake last week - performed well and landed the apologetic family without any issues.
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ive spoke to shimano over the spools i bought from bobco.
"Hi Andy,
Sorry for the slow reply, but from looking at the images and checking our records this is not the newly released line.
We didn't sell any of the UK spec line to Bobco before they ceased trading."
The newer line is however in stock and able to be ordered from any UK shimano stockist.
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In reply to Post #214
I spooled my technium and then walked out the rods 100m (ish) and wound back to remove twist. However I don't really think it needed it, very little twist in it from initial spooling.
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In reply to Post #213
I have some Fluoro to stretch out once that's loaded onto new spools, so will do the Technium at the same time...
I'll take some scales and gently pull on the WHOLE length of line until I get 15lb on the dial and then gently ease back off. If I can get a 15lb pull on it that'll do for me.
Then wind it all in through the grass in the field to comb out any twist.
As much as the close season is frustrating...it does give us a chance to get things done properly, ready for the off in June 
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In reply to Post #212
Personally if I thought there was a chance it could be bad I wouldn't have sold it on.
I wouldn't want fish trailing line. Or endangering others if it cracked off.
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In reply to Post #211
i sold mine, did not want the slight nagging thought the line was duff. Still have two spools of the OG 15lb though, so not gonna cry tbh
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In reply to Post #209
That's good news.
I will respool some of my reels before the season reopens and do a similar test.
If anything fails I will try and see what eBay say about refund
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It looks like (Two) BobCo bought a bunch of rejects and flogged it off cheap.
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Just spooled back up with technium 12lb (definitely the new stuff as my local got it in on re-release) - so much nicer than the synchro it replaced and went on the spools beautifully.
Soaked for 24 hours before loading and did a break test prior to spooling each of the three spools (so sampled fairly evenly across the bulk spool) and seems rock solid.
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i still have some tinned stuff (circa 2001) and more recent blue label stuff (from Bobco) and i cant see/feel any difference
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In reply to Post #206
Visually, and to the touch, it looked/felt the same to me
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In reply to Post #205
We don't know if the bobco tackle stuff is genuine, but took a risk at £5 a spool.
I've used technium for years anyway so will be able to tell if its genuine when i spool up.
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In reply to Post #204
so we don't know if the new technium is ***** or good then....
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In reply to Post #203
I don't think it was ever solved as they soon shut up shop after selling the spools at mega discounted prices
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have we established if the stuff from bobco is old stuff or new stuff??
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In reply to Post #200
It seems to be worse after it’s been in the water a while
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In reply to Post #200
I order 6 spools at the same time from Bobco tackle, there still sitting in the garage but ill be respooling this time off and do some pull tests.
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In reply to Post #198
Yes, just checked eBay and I ordered 6 spools June/July last year.
I may double check mine when i load it...I prefer to lay the line out across a field to give it it's final wind in and remove twist. If I do, I think I will tie it to a bankstick and give it a tug....just in case my first spool was OK but some of the other 5 spools are defect.
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I stripped all my reels of the technium I bought from bobco as I didn’t feel comfortable risking it. I know I would have just sat there worrying it would snap while playing a fish. I went back to the Korda touchdown I’ve been using the past few years
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In reply to Post #196
is yours Bobco stock Karlos?
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In reply to Post #196
I initially spooled up with it (not from Bobco) but got spooked by the reports of failures so swapped over to Synchro XT. Hating the Synchro so will likely switch back to the Technium but thought if check if there were ongoing failures from other suppliers.
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In reply to Post #194
I've only used one of the 6 spools I bought.
It's been fine...hopefully the other spools are OK too!
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In reply to Post #194
I'm still using the bulk load I bought from Eric's Angling a while back.
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Reviving an old thread - is anyone still using the 'new' (or relaunched old) technium? Did anyone have any problems with the line other than that supplied by Bobco?
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In reply to Post #191
Thanks I saw they ceased trading, a little naughty too be fair
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In reply to Post #190
bobco ceased to exist, I think the general consensus was not to trust the line....especially once wet
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What's was the outcome of the Bobco technium in the end.
Ive got 5 spools and debating if i should respool or just stick on facebook.
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Just read on FB that Bob Co are closing down
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I wonder if the technium that johnson ross have is ok as thats the latest batch.
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In reply to Post #186
I've come to the conclusion that there's no better all round line than esp synchro in 12 or 15lb
I'm using the 15lb XT for the 1st time this year, so far so good, no compalints from me
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I've come to the conclusion that there's no better all round line than esp synchro in 12 or 15lb
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I had this same issue on technium 12lb about 10 years ago, I lost a good fish then a much smaller one to the line snapping. I was hoping this batch would be better but it looks like I’ll be stripping it off my spools now and going back to Korda touchdown
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In reply to Post #183
Yeah, right, cobblers. How many hundreds of spools, maybe 1000s do you think they've sold, do you think 10 or 20 negatives outweigh the positives 
Do you really think Shimano give 2 hoots about 1 or 2% failure over 10s of thousands of spools?
Seems in this day and age people are all too happy to jump on the negatives, more fun I suppose, makes life more interesting, using a shops demise to cast dispersions on the way they operated, In my book that's pish poor....
Fill you boots
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In reply to Post #182
Sounds like they’ve just shafted the angler’s with some cr@p old line they’ve picked up from somewhere before they go under, and not done Shimano any favours in the process by the sounds of it.
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In reply to Post #181
Just commented on that on another post, not good, another independent gone.
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Dont think you will here from bobco, they have went bust and administrators have been called in.
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All this sounds very odd indeed and I'd like to know what BobCo have to say. I can't see them selling fake, and I can't see them knowing it was a bad batch (if it was) just not good business sense. I suppose there's the fact that they probably sold hundreds of spools and so far only a minority given the sales are showing fault, but like others, I'm not sure I'd take the chance, I'll be using mine as backing.
Makes me also wonder if my initial spool of the new branded stuff was the same back in 2017, or whenever it was, as that stuff was simply horrible, stiff, wirey and pig tailed at the slightest opportunity.
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I've always rated the technium, I have used the 12lb for many years, I still have a spare spool of the old stuff. I nearly bought some from bobco thankfully I thought it was too cheap and too good an offer to be true. I'm now using Synchro xt in 15lb, and Gardner platinum fluoro, as I bought some 3.5lb rods and thought it best to up the line strength from 12lb to 15lb. Still using the 12lb on my 3lb rods.
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I was going to get the new stuff, not a chance now.
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In reply to Post #176
It would,nt affect it , its used in water which is warm and cold light and dark . Its in the manufacturing .
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In reply to Post #175
If the line had been in storage for some time what could've damaged it?
If it were sunlight I'd expect only the top layer to be affected.
So does that just leave that it could have only been stored in conditions that were either too hot or too cold?
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The biggest disappointment of this is my confidence has now been destroyed with the line I have been using for over 20+years ... Gutted!
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In reply to Post #173
It begs the question "Did they know?"
I wouldn't want to be fishing opposite someone casting 3oz leads with this line...and it's not good for fish welfare either. Nobody wants a fish trailing line.
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I bought 8 spools from bobco . After reading this i took 4 out and tried a test . All but 1 broke at around 14lb the other snapped at 15. I then dropped all 4 in a bucket of water and left them in for 48 hrs . Retested this morning three snapped at 8lb the other one still at 15. Obviously i wont be using any . Manufacturing error i believe. You do have to wonder why they were selling so cheap . I will contact bobco as they should refund does,nt matter how cheap they are.
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In reply to Post #171
At least its only £20 and not the usual £100 for 4 spools.
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In reply to Post #170
Ffs, got 4 spools of it
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In reply to Post #168
I very much doubt you can get fake line.
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Has anyone approached Bobco about this?
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I wonder if it's possible that the dodgy line is actually a fake?
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I certainly am not going to take a chance with it...backing line at best
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In reply to Post #161
Just checked the original (which has been kept in the dark) i have against the bobco stuff, barcode & packaging is identical.
Maybe a storage issue with some of it.
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In reply to Post #163
Just tried the 3 12lb bobco spools i bought, a couple of sharp tugs & it breaks easily, it also pigtails up around the break.
One spool felt a bit stronger at first but not how it should be, pulled a fair bit off but made no difference.
I've got a spool & a bit left of the "original" 12lb, cant break it at all & it also feels smoother than the bobco stuff.
Its now going to be sent off to the mono recyclers.
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Is this happening just to the 12lb or all breaking strains?
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In reply to Post #161
Sorry to say,
I have just looked at the three remaining spools I have and they are identical to yours
Only on the spool does it show the breaking strain and the length, but the boxes show the diameter and the bar code is the same
I have been using it for 3 months with no issues, I fish every mid week
I’ve had a 56 cat that weeded me up and I hand pulled it through the weed expecting it to snap, but behaved great
Have had no issues till this week when I picked the rod up after a run and as it started to pull against the rod the line parted three wraps out, so ten wraps from the lead
I could see no reason for it to part, it’s a good clean silty bottom and no snags
The more worrying was when I went twenty wraps into the line it parted between my hands
I tried the 8lb maxima I have on a barbel rod and this took a lot more effort
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All mine are as follows. The label stuck on the box states BS and Diameter .... The spools themselves are only labelled with BS.
I have a spool down to 350mtr and ive just been outside and given a proper tug and its holding firm .... Im not going to panic about it. If i get a dodgy spool I will just move onto another.
Bar codes on all mine is 8 717009 799683
geometry symbols and terms
geometry symbols and terms
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I got 6 spools from BobCo.
All 6 boxes say:
12.00lb 0.320mm
1100m 1203yards
Bar Code on all 6 boxes (in case it differs from old to new versions?):
8 717009 799683
EDIT: I just opened one of the 5 remaining boxes, pulled off about 10 yards of line and then held the middle of it and tried both slow/steady pulls and jabby/bouncy tugs on it. The line felt good. I hope the other 1190+ yards are the same
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In reply to Post #159
if you don't mind, surely they weren't selling the new stuff at £5 a spool though
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I messaged Bobco when the new stuff first came out enquiring as to whether their stock was new or old - they replied that it was mixed stock.
So presume it's either a mix of diameters or maybe just some old stuff that wasn't stored correctly. I have a spool/box of what I know to be the new 12lb stuff that I can WhatsApp to people if they want.
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had my mate not bought some and it was napping like cotton I wouldn't have even questioned my stuff from bobco, I've just opened a spool up from the box and honestly couldn't snap it but it's got me really paranoid, especially with another member having identical problem.
how is the new stuff packaged?? is it new packaging and different t from the stuff from bobco?
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In reply to Post #147
Bought 3 spools from bobco & still have a part spool from before it disappeared which is on the reels & has been fine.
Will be thoroughly testing it in comparison, possibly old stock that's been in the light?
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I spooled up three 5500 spools with it and I’m sure I e used them at my syndicate and everything was ok
How can I check? Pull a few rod lengths of line off the spool and then tug the mono between my hands and see if it breaks?
I’d rather find out on my front lawn than at the syndicate with a fish on…
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Is there anything better than syncro xt these days?
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In reply to Post #152
as soon as I seen that reply last night I ordered a spool of synchro
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It will be interesting to see what the 15lb stuff I’ve got from total fishing tackle will be like when I get around to spooling up with it.
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I cut perfectly good syncro xt off my reels to put it on as well. Now cutting this off and putting syncro back on 🤬
I wonder where bobco got it all from. There normally a good shop as bought from them a few times.
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this certainly tarnishes the reputation of not only the old but I certainly won't be buying a ny of the new stuff now either
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If it looks too good to be true…
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Just tried on a different spool and it snapped so its coming off. They sold hundreds of spools as well so not good.
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In reply to Post #147
My bobco spools have a 0.32 diameter written on the spool. I tried to break my 12lb with my hands after reading this and I couldnt snap it.
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In reply to Post #146
Have the spool in front of me
It does not give a diameter
Just 12lb 1100 meters 1208 yards
One of the reels the line was a lot stronger on the pulling apart compared to the other two
All three were filled from the same spool
Maybe this was the top of the spool
The spool is the same as all of the other technium spools I’ve ever used
Also the line behaved exactly the same way until it parted
Im fishing a weedy lake and have had a dozen 20 plus on it and a 50 + cat
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In reply to Post #143
What diameter was this 12lb? I wonder if it's one of the versions with the stupidly low diameter for the stated breaking strain?
There's a 0.225mm and 0.255mm version at 5kg and 6.1kg respectively. I suspect either of those would be easily 'snappable'.
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Maybe BobCo bought a batch of 'seconds', hence the knock down price ?
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In reply to Post #143
thx for replying,this was my concern.. my mate bought some ( not from bobco) in 12lb off Ebay, his done exactly the same as you've just said..identical when we were on a session..ill just use it as backing line.
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In reply to Post #140
Spooled up with the bobco 12 lb ( bought 4 spools of it £5 a spool bargain)
Used 15lb for years with no issues
Read the tackle box test and seems the 12 is close to the 15 on test
Had it on for 3 months and very pleased till yesterday when I struck into a fish and the line parted at 10 wraps
Could see not reason for the line to part, no kinks or marks
Pulled three wraps off the spool and snapped it when pulling between my hands
Pulled of another ten wraps and did the same with the same result
Then tried the other two rods with the same results
Line now in bin
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In reply to Post #138
The original in 15lb was rubbish tbh. Unless you are getting it in a bs under 15lb, I'd use something else
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In reply to Post #138
Post 49
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anyone spooled up with the 12lb from bobco yet??? I need to spool.up for a.trip but want to make sure it's decent stuff before getting let down on a 4 day trip
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In reply to Post #137
Has anyone used the new version yet then in 15lb? Is it like the original stuff or should I give it a wide Birth
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In reply to Post #136
£24.99 now so probs for the best
Edit: £14.99 still on website
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In reply to Post #134
I must admit I was tempted, jic I had a dodgy spool, had the15lb in my basket on both orders I just placed with Bobco, but, for once restraint got the better of me and I removed them 
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Taken a punt on this in 12lb for £5, nice one!
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In reply to Post #131
Cheers for the link mate.
I decided I couldn't rely on you buying any more 15lb for me so ordered three more spools and a couple of the 12lb
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In reply to Post #132
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In reply to Post #131
blimey .... they are one step away from paying us to buying 12lb Technium
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For anyone who likes the Shimano Technium on offer at BobCo on Ebay, 12lb £5 & 15lb £14.99 (if the 15lb is black, I only confirmed the 12lb).
BobCo, buy any 3 sale items get 20% off, min spend for free P+P £30 AFTER reduction.
I'll stick this on the Technium thread too
As I read it you can mix and match....EDIT, it is
Click here for BC page
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i see a few places now have the Technium black in 8lb aswell. Good to see that available and will be next on my shopping list (albeit at the normal price £20+)
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In reply to Post #126
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In reply to Post #126
Well in
Best line ever made IMO closely followed by Cm90
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In reply to Post #4
Greens fishing tackle in Blackwood have or atleast had it. Worth giv8ng them a bell as I'm sure they'd post.
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just ordered another 4 ... I now have a lifetime supply of my favourite line .... and at a steal of a price 
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In reply to Post #123
Probably someone on here.
Looks like they've changed the photo in the Bobco advert from clear to Black.
LINK
Showing the correct colour will help sales.
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In reply to Post #123
The wife did mention it, I couldn't be bothered 
I went into Daves of Middlewich last Friday, someone bought all 6 spools of the 15lb, full price 
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In reply to Post #122
and as if by magic, lots of the OG 12lb black shimano technium line for sale on ebay for £15 per spool, somebody's making a few bob
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In reply to Post #121
it is much appreciated though, thank you
You're as bad as me re the hoarding!
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In reply to Post #120
Apologies, I have failed you mate 
Just when I thought that the photo might actually be useful!
It may have been from a can, I can't remember....
EDIT: Thinking about it, probably not from a can or I would still have the can, I am a hoarder and wouldn't have thrown it away!
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In reply to Post #118
Love it wrong spool though, close but no cigar. Is that one of the original can spools?
@119, great stuff 👍
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In reply to Post #84
Thanks just ordered 4 spools to reline my big/small water reels.
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In reply to Post #102
You are a sad sad man wanting such technical information.
However, I know an even sadder man who took this photo on 23 March 2015.
Thank you Google Photos for finding it when I searched my photos for 'scales' ... weirdly it never found it when I searched for 'Technium' or 'Shimano'
In response to "Am I redeemed Karlos?"
Yes, assuming you are going to weigh the spool, minus the weight of the empty spool...and then you'll be able to divide the weight of mono by 3 (or 4) to know when to stop winding it onto the spool.
At £5 a spool I shouldn't care...but I do care about line waste.
Imagine filling 2 spools and not quite having enough for a third! The stuff of nightmares...
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got my 4 spools last week. Happy to report came in black (12lb/0.32mm) - perfect 
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In reply to Post #115
3 spools winging there way here, at that price its a a no brainer
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Thankyou ... In that case order placed
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In reply to Post #111
Yes all the 12lb is the black version.
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In reply to Post #111
Yes mate, bought 2 myself, actually 16 bought in last 24hrs according to ebay
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In reply to Post #110
nice one,thx for the help guys
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In reply to Post #110
Can anyone confirm whether the 12lb invisitec as listed on eBay by Bobco is being sent out in black please?
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Yes 12lb is defo the black version. Its 0.32 dia incase anyone wanted to know.
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In reply to Post #108
nice one,3 spools ordered,see.what it's like
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In reply to Post #107
Yes it is
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In reply to Post #106
is the 12lb the black version??
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In reply to Post #105
Yes i left feedback after mine came today .
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In reply to Post #103
I always leave positive feedback. My 3 spools arrived yesterday and ive just bought another 3. Absolute bargain that. Even the postage is stupidly cheap at 29 pence for 3 spools. Not sure where they get that price from as it would cost at least £3 to post.
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In reply to Post #103
Not just fishing tackle but it seems the to be norm on ebay nowadays, people are quite willing to receive a bargain and great service on ebay but don't have the common courtesy of thanking someone.
You're not wrong, it's very poor, I could be wrong but manners seem to be old fashioned, I bet if there was a thumbs up it's get used more often. To be fair quite a few sellers do it to, it's got to the point I won't leave feedback until I receive it.
I might have ordered another spool of it, too good to miss at that price even as backing
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I bought a spool of 12lb of Technium and can confirm it's the same as the stuff I bought a couple of years ago.
£5.29 delivered and it came really quickly.
I left Bobco positive feedback on ebay, it seems a few of us on here have bought this line but I've only noticed one other person leaving positive feedback.
Not just fishing tackle but it seems the to be norm on ebay nowadays, people are quite willing to receive a bargain and great service on ebay but don't have the common courtesy of thanking someone.
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A big long shot here, does anyone know the weight of/or have a empty spool that the 12lb Technium comes on (without shroud) that they could weigh for me please?
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In reply to Post #100
very good
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In reply to Post #99
You could just buy a couple of spools every spring, decide you don't like it and stick it straight in the classifieds, that'd work nicely. Lol
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In reply to Post #98
Nope, I won't be tempted
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In reply to Post #97
It definitely gets better and better the longer it's on your reels, just like the 15lb.
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Recieved my spool of the 12lb from Bobco today. I can see it shares similarities with it's bigger cousin the 15lb just scaled down, though that is straight off the spool so probably a little stiff at the mo, would benfit from a bit of working but I much prefer it to the 15 as is, time will tell in use though from other peoples experiences it'll be a goodun.
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In reply to Post #95
😀👍🏻 yes its all a bit confusing. I did mean the new stuff but i imagine the bobco stuff is the same, but no idea really. Does mono degrade over time as the bobco one will be quite old i would think but i dont think it makes any difference if its out of direct uv light and in its packaging.
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In reply to Post #94
I didn't want to reply mate as I thought you meant the so called 'new stuff' and my head hurts enough on that subject already
Glad you got sorted
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Ignore my message, just bought a few spools of the bobco ones on ebay.
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Has any where got the 12lb black in stock?
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In reply to Post #91
I'm not mate, i just hope the 12/0.32 is a bit more to my liking compared to the 15/0.38. My only interest in the new was if it was thinner at the same breaking strain which appears not to be the case. The age of a shop bought spool doesn't bother me either, as long as it's not a window/display spool.
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In reply to Post #90
honestly, i wouldnt worry about it being old or new ... I have bought loads of spools of 0.33mm dia (black - tinned and boxed versions) since early 2000s and regardless of the conspiracy theories of some, it all feels and behaved as the same stuff in my experience.
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In reply to Post #89
I think it is the old - believe that they were selling it prior to the release of the 'new stuff'. Although I'm still somewhat confused as to whether the new release is the same as the original or the second generation which I believe had the same diameters and packaging as this.
If you're confused I don't stand a bloody chance 
According to the Shimano FB Post g4fne quoted earlier it's just a relaunch of the old stuff so exactly the same as the old stuff from Bobco just near £20 odd quid more, but who knows
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In reply to Post #86
I think it is the old - believe that they were selling it prior to the release of the 'new stuff'. Although I'm still somewhat confused as to whether the new release is the same as the original or the second generation which I believe had the same diameters and packaging as this.
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In reply to Post #86
don't start 
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In reply to Post #86
Old I think.
Still for a fiver a spool 12lb don't mind the old stuff back on my reels.
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In reply to Post #84
Is it the latest version
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Just bumping this as I had a reply from Bobco re the £5 spools of 12lb Technium (£5.29 delivered) they've got listed on Ebay, . They've said the 12lb listed is the black, not the Invisitec as shown in the main pic but as shown in the description.
That's a bargain in my book even if I end up using it as bean netting
Click here
Am I redeemed Karlos
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Finally found the Tackle Box Line tests PDF
Click Here
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In reply to Post #78
12lb (0.33mm) is indeed a different animal to 15lb .... Much nicer to use.
I have never found an occasion that the I needed to heavier than 12lb
Very interesting given the increased breaking strain well over 12lb with the right knot taken as a given
Does it sink well,I'm very tempted try this line on my spare spools
The 15 sinks very well, I can only imagine the 12lb doing the same, albeit slightly slower.
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In reply to Post #75
I don’t think I mentioned the technium was in there, just a comment about line reviews. Just had a look at a few I have, Catana was the only Shimano line, not that it matters, I used it once, didn’t really get on with it in 15lb, but that’s all I ever use.
Synchro XT for me, brilliant line 
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In reply to Post #78
Does it sink well,I'm very tempted try this line on my spare spools
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In reply to Post #78
Here you go
Stated BS , Tested BS, Stated Diameter , Tested Diameter
Shimano Technium Invisitec
26.4lb 18.71lb 0.355mm 0.38mm
Shimano Tribal Carp
10lb 13.41lb 0.305mm 0.26mm
12lb 15.72lb 0.33mm 0.32mm
15lb 19.52lb 0.38mm 0.39mm
Shimano Catana
8lb 14.13lb 0.28mm 0.28mm
10lb 16lb 0.30mm 0.30mm
12lb 18.88lb 0.33mm 0.33mm
15lb 20.5lb 0.35mm 0.35mm
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Pretty sure Technium wasn't in Tacklebox tests.
12lb (0.33mm) is indeed a different animal to 15lb .... Much nicer to use.
I have never found an occasion that the I needed to heavier than 12lb
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In reply to Post #76
Given what your saying about BS of the 12lb I might take a look when I'm in a tackle shop, thanks for the feedback
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In reply to Post #74
I used the 12lb for a lot of my fishing as well, if I remember correctly it actually broke at over 18lbs.
I think you're dead right that the 15lb was thicker than the stated diameter (.355?), probably more likely .38 as they're now saying.
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In reply to Post #73
I don't think that Technium ever appeared in the Tackle Box line test. Catana definitely did, but I'm pretty sure not the Technium.
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In reply to Post #73
I use to use the original exclusively and found 12Lb bs the best…. It was strong as f@ck… with a much higher actual BS that stated…
I never had any issued at all with the line, i really liked the low Strech, knotted well, sank ok couldnt really fault it….
Since it was discontinued and my syndicate changing rules to 15lb min bs, i have used ESP syncro (not the loaded stuff) and have no issues with this either….i was thinking of going back to Shimano line, but waiting to see if the new stuff, is the same as the old…. And if not I’m not too bothered as happy with the syncro
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In reply to Post #72
I believe the tackle box catalogue had the most detailed reviews at the time. Still probably got one somewhere, will have a look.
I used techniium once, the expensive one that came in a tin. Was a strange line, black with a translucent core, when it was nicked you could see a clear section. It did have limited stretch compared to other monos I had used, and it was tough stuff but if found the diameter of 15lb to appear large on the spool, a large diameter for the rate of strain, probably why it had a reputation for being tuff as old boots 
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In reply to Post #63
I didn't see that in Carpworld and frankly I'm glad I didn't, otherwise I may not have tried Technium after Catana was discontinued.
With 15lb Technium if I put a rig up a tree my biggest concern is that I'll pull the bloody tree over.
Yes definitely more wirey than Bullet, Sensor, Catana or probably many others, but I genuinely don't ever worry that it will let me down when fishing in dense, snail infested weed, lillies or snags and the low stretch gives great bite indication.
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In reply to Post #70
Everyone has a different experience.. i found sensor to be rubbish, kinked & roughed up at the slightest hint of weed & poor breaking strain.
I have had it do that to me every now and then, usually in my case when it's being ploughed through lilles, but tbh it's so cheap I just cut it off if it does. I think I've only ever had a couple of cut offs in all those years and I couldn't pin it on the line tbh, but as you say we all have differing experiences.
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In reply to Post #66
Everyone has a different experience.. i found sensor to be rubbish, kinked & roughed up at the slightest hint of weed & poor breaking strain.
May have been a dodgy spool but put me off it ever since.
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In reply to Post #68
No problem Your experience may end up being different on the hyper, lines seem to split opinion!
If you don’t need distance the heavy 0.43 touchdown is highly recommended.
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In reply to Post #67
Thanks for the feedback mate, much appreciated, surprised at the Hyper :-(
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In reply to Post #66
I found the Hyper Sensor worse than standard for stretch and durability (kinking, twist and abrasion). Pointless stuff in my experience.
Flouro would be the obvious choice for minimum stretch, although some people can’t get on with it.
I fished an estate lake with a similar situation to you, tight to lilly beds but braid banned. I found 20lb 0.43 Touchdown to be a really good choice. Really tough and low stretch for a mono. I only tried the brown.
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In reply to Post #65
I found Hyper Sensor to be overly stretchy, preferred the standard stuff.
Do you mean overly stretchy compared to other low stretch lines? I'm assuming it isn't as stretchy as standard Sensor.
If you just want a solid mono why not go for GR60?
TBH, like you, if I wanted a bog standard mono I'd go back to standard Sensor (I'll see how I get on with XT). My interest in lower stretch lines stems from fishing a water with swims cut into Japanese lillies, I just wanted faster indication and less stretch (braid is banned). Fishing locked up tight a fish managed to get me weeded up just by the stretch in the sensor alone, tbf it was a very aggressive run and unusual in that respect, even so it didn't sit easy with me.
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In reply to Post #62
I found Hyper Sensor to be overly stretchy, preferred the standard stuff. In all honesty brown sensor was hard to beat, I’d happily use it if I ever had to go back to a mono.
Again, only my opinion, but found GTHD very poor for abrasion. It’s pre stretched, not a fan.
If you just want a solid mono why not go for GR60?
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In reply to Post #63
However, I do remember a few years ago in Carpworld that Lee Jackson did a really detailed review of lines for Tackle Box. He tested BS with spring balances, tested knot strength, abrasion resistance, softness, diameter etc etc and then rated each line and suitability for different uses.
I remember that and tried to find it but the link returned a 'page doesn't exist'. I was looking from the perspective of most of the so called good lines have been out a while and might have been covered on it.
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OK - I’ll start by saying I’ve never used the Technium line so can’t comment from first hand experience so have to take the word of others.
However, I do remember a few years ago in Carpworld that Lee Jackson did a really detailed review of lines for Tackle Box. He tested BS with spring balances, tested knot strength, abrasion resistance, softness, diameter etc etc and then rated each line and suitability for different uses. The one line he didn’t rate at all was Technium
I know it’s one persons opinion, but at least it was a carefully considered opinion based on testing not just following the crowd.
It just struck me odd with many raving about it.
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In reply to Post #61
Yep, you're not wrong, but on the whole positives seem to outweigh the negatives with most lines. It's much of a guessing game really if you've been using a line for so long as I have, must be 30 years and I'll have to assume most lines used correctly must be well thought out from the big manufacturers. I was going to try the Gardner HD but can't easily get hold of it in 15lb and even that has reviews mentioning twist issues, though to be fair a few of those reporting it said they'd loaded it wrongly after contacting Gardner. I might still try the Sensor Hyper on 1 rod, but again there are reports of breaking well under BS. Without spending a fortune trying them all, let alone having the time to do it your at the mercy of pot luck, or in my case the advice of someone who's used the line for a long time.
I'll see how the Syncro goes, maybe the Hyper!
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In reply to Post #60
I always find it strange how opinions differ so much on lines - I spooled up with 15lb Synchro Xat and stripped it off after two sessions. Seemed super springy and stretchy to me.
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In reply to Post #59
As with all lines, ignore the BS and just buy by diameter
I normally do but the Technium is bloody aweful in 0.38mm (to me anyway)
Anyway on the advice of Braders (thank you) I bought some ESP Syncro XT and it appears to be a very nice line in comparison to the Technium (to me).
Then the wife comes home and says look what I've got you...yes a bloody spool of 15lb Technium . So if anyone wants a spool of Technium for the knock down price of £20 delivered pm me, it'll shortly be going in the classifieds.
And so endeth my venture into Shimano Technium Black...good riddance
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This conversation about BS/diameter and Tech black has been going on for years, it was he same with the original.
As with all lines, ignore the BS and just buy by diameter.
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In reply to Post #57
The U.K isn't special, can't see Shimano going to the trouble tbh. In any case, make your own mind up from the pic below
I give up now, going to try the Gardner GT HD instead!
EDIT, Shimano Rep confirms as per James post, the europeans can keep their diameters Shame really as I don't like the 15lb in 0.38mm but was willing to give a smaller diameter a go...ho hum.
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In reply to Post #56
Surely they’d just be labelled differently as opposed to being an entirely different product?
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In reply to Post #54
Have you got any idea why the European shops are offering the other diameters, there's no way the U.K market is big enough for its own line?
I rang Johnson Ross the other day, the chap was very helpful but didn't know either.
He measured the 0.405mm with his calipers, it was 0.38mm
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In reply to Post #54
so basically same as the original tinned stuff
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In reply to Post #53
Yep - I have received the 0.32mm 12lb and 0.38mm 15lb so can confirm that the diameters as per the Facebook post I linked earlier are what is coming out to shops.
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12lb is .32 in the new released line
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In reply to Post #51
Will wait & see what arrives in the shops, if it's not .32/.33mm will be moving on to a different line.
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In reply to Post #49
I spooled up with 15lb of the technium vs GT HD and was quite shocked at the outcome. The technium is just wiry vs the GT HD which is very limp with no stiffness at all
That sums up pretty much my thoughts, I'm not sure what I was expecting but I almost thought there was something wrong with it.
Perhaps Shimano have just started to put the true breaking strain on the spools?
Not from what James is saying, very odd.
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Perhaps Shimano have just started to put the true breaking strain on the spools?
As we all know, most lines are well underrated.The only one I can remember that gave an accurate rating was Daiwa Infinity Duo, it used to state that it was IGFA (?) rated on the spool.
There really should be an industry standard method for measuring bs of lines.
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We have a 0.35mm minimum b/s on my syndicate. I spooled up with 15lb of the technium vs GT HD and was quite shocked at the outcome.
The technium is just wiry vs the GT HD which is very limp with no stiffness at all
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I know I'm getting old (50) but it's quite bizarre to me that these companies think the only way to inform is the likes of social media, in fact just for that reason I may just see my arse (even if it's super skinny now) 
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In reply to Post #45
Ignore everything and buy by diameter only (0.32mm/0.33mm = 12lb)
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In reply to Post #45
The website has always been bizzare - the UK diameters were never listed from what I can remember. I believe the EU breaking strains was listed as linear strength whilst the UK was knot strength.
I got it from a shop they listed as receiving the new stuff the day it arrived - mine were the 0.32/0.38mm for 12lb/15lb respectively as per that Facebook post.
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In reply to Post #43
I'm totally bloody confused now
The Johnson Ross site doen't say anything about any Euro Line, and when I was in Daves they said the new stuff is on the system but the stuff they received doesn't match it.
Surely to god someone on here works in a tackle shop and can tell us definitively, or someone who wants to ask them on Faceache.
TBQH, if it's the same diameter, conversation over for me, back to Sensor
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In reply to Post #43
Oh right crossed line somewhere then Just waiting for stock to arrive now.
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In reply to Post #38
These aren't the 'new' release stats - that is the older euro rated line as stated. The website hasn't been updated with the new product yet.
Not sure if the Facebook link will work but the specs of the re/new release are here; https://www.facebook.com/share/p/6SneAj8ZzAk9q7xk/
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In reply to Post #41
I always go by diameter, there's been so much messing with breaking strains & diameter in the past "our 15lb is super strong & breaks at 18lb"...yeah cos its 0.40 dia & that would have been 20lb in the old days.
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In reply to Post #38
They look like the old euro rated lines there used to be a 0.35mm version and 0.4 version available in europe, i certainly wouldnt be convinced by the stated breaking strains of the "newer" version
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In reply to Post #39
Yes, a huge drop, from 0.38 to 0.285 in the case of the 15lb. I don't like the 0.38 but I'd probably try the 0.305, still a big drop and stronger to boot, just hope the abraision resitstance is as good, guess only time will tell but I can't imagine Shimano dropping the ball.
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In reply to Post #38
18.7lb for 0.305 diameter it says, quite a drop in diameter from 0 .33 for the old tinned 12lb line, knot strength may have improved but low diameter won't help abrasion resistance .
Tried the old 15lb & didn't get on with it so wont be trying the 0.35,new one, was hoping they'd just re manufacture the old 12lb as was, quite disappointing.
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In reply to Post #34
Those are the old line diameters, as far as I'm aware. as I said before I have the 0.38 on my reels from 5 years ago.
Marketing blurb from Shimano for new Technium line
The triple core technology in Technium mono has always made this one of the best lines on the market but new Japanese technologies have made it not only thinner but stronger!!
Shimanos diameters from website Click here
Check the label on the spool from Johnson Ross, the new stuff is out there.
Link to Johnson Ross Click here
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In reply to Post #34
12lb - Tinned stuff was 0.33mm. The box version (silver/blue) was labelled 0.32mm a few years back .... and then they labelled them euro spec for a while even more recently .... and now there is relaunch.
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In reply to Post #34
Not particularly thin then, I've used the 12lb for years, still have a spool in reserve. Been forced by circumstances to use 15lb so currently on synchro xt, and gardner platinum. Happy with what I'm using for current fishing, but may need to revert to 12lb in future when I change lakes.
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In reply to Post #33
The new versions are 0.32mm for 12lb and 0.38mm for 15lb.
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In reply to Post #32
Thanks for the feedback
I guess the wait for the new stuff goes on, it's 0.285mm in 15lb (7.5kg). I spotted it on Johnson Ross but when I went back online it was sold out.
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In reply to Post #31
Have spooled up both after soaking for around 2 hours. Seems really supple, loaded well with no twist/springyness. The 15lb is definitely a bit less supple, as to be expected at 0.38mm (vs the 0.32mm of the 12lb) but doesn't seem wirey at all and I'd be happy to use it.
I'll use the 12lb primarily and from my memory of using cm90 and Synchro XT this is more supple and appears to have less memory and stretch. However I haven't done a side by side.comparison vs these lines so may not be accurate.
I found the remnants of a spool of 12lb from a few years ago, probably 2018-20, so not the original black that came in a tin, the spool and labelling all appears the same. So unsure if this is the same as the original technium black or the 'second generation'.
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In reply to Post #30
What are your thoughts doameter/stretch/wiieryness ?
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Seems like it has started to arrive in shops now. CarpScene have it as does my local - picked up a spool of 12lb and 15lb this morning.
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In reply to Post #28
Thanks T, Yes it's Daves, they've got 3 x 3 x 3 square of them, so a fair few spools, probably split 10,12,15, note it is the thicker older type not the new stuff.
Edit, they were on the bottom of a shelf directly in front/opposite the counter as they'd just come in, they said they'd move them to where they go later on
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In reply to Post #27
Daves of Middlewich
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In reply to Post #26
What is DOM mate? I'll grab a couple of spools if there's any left.
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In reply to Post #6
Went into DOM yesterday as they'd had a delivery but it was the old type, .38 instead of .305. It looks like Shimano U.K still have some old stock in their warehouse.
EDIT, For anyone interested BobCo are selling off one of the Technium lines in 12lb 0.32mm 1100m for £5
Click here
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In reply to Post #21
im also going to disagree. Ive never needed to use anything stronger than the 12lb (0.33mm), even in the weediest of waters .... Its amazingly strong and abrasion resistant.
Where I do agree though, is the 15lb is just a little to wiry for my liking (fortunately I have never needed to step up to it) and very different to the 12lb and lighter BS
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In reply to Post #23
I agree that the 12lb was a decent, tough line for its 0.33 diameter. I personally wouldn’t use a 0.33 mono on a weedy water, even a very good one is not strong enough.
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In reply to Post #21
I definitely disagree with you there. In 12lb it was mega tough.
Anything about 12lb it was a totally different line though. Wirey and didn't bed down well at all
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In reply to Post #21
The low stretch is difficult to gauge doesn't seem much less when pulling for a break but regards weed & snags its as tough as old boots.
I've used it in 12lb on a snag filled river & the local horrifically weedy canal never let me down.
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I’ve never understood the fuss about Technium black to be honest. The 12lb was a good line if the water had no snags and no weed. The low stretch was good for feeling the lead down but only 0.33 and likely pre stretched at that diameter. The 15lb was wiry to the point it felt like a different line.
Since it went away I would say CM90, Synchro and brown Touchdown all improved on it. They are all also much better in the higher diameters.
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In reply to Post #19
There's a few on Ebay, Bobco etc, not sure if it's the new stuff though?
Does anyone know if the lettering after it is a identifier for the news stuff?
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After some in 12lbs , anyone know any stockists ?
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In reply to Post #17
Thank you
Edit, I've no experience of fluorocarbon as a main line, never used it or had use for it, only as hooklinks. I've been a 1 line man ever since I've been Carping, thought I'd give the STB a go as it was so highly thought of by so many. The stuff on my reels hasn't seen much use but is 5 years old, but from what your saying it's probably still good.
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In reply to Post #14
I love the black Technium and yes it is a little 'wirey' at first (15lb bs), but much like fluorocarbon it soon settles down and gets better the longer it's on the reels. In my experience it stays in great condition for years and years and I only replace it when it gets too low on the spools for the fishing situation.
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In reply to Post #15
Think it's JRC who are relabling CM90 for a re-release.I've been waiting on it,but think I'll try the 8lb in Technium if I can get that sooner.
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In reply to Post #11
Over the years I have used both technium black and cm90. Both tough as old boots but I personally feel that cm90 is the better line. I am sure that there was a post on here a while back stating that Berkley were due to bring back cm90 perhaps under a different sub brand or name change and keep an eye on thier socials. I don't think anything has come of it yet
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So, for those who've used it and say they've noticed no diff between the tinned and later stuff I take it it's naturally stiff and wirey?
I bought it in plastic but never used it before that, I just found it a little stiff. It certainly sank well but didn't follow contours too well when slack.
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In reply to Post #4
My local has had it on order for over 2 weeks, had their dispatch note last week but still not turned up - seem a bit slow with the distribution.
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In reply to Post #11
I actually dont think there has ever been a difference. I think its more about people loading onto reels incorrectly (if they are getting twist) or they might be comparing different breaking strains or possibly even had a bad isolated spool of it. I dont see why i would feel/see no difference after the amount of spools of Technium black I have bought over the years.
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In reply to Post #9
I didn't notice any difference between the tinned or the plastic packaged stuff either, still got some of the plastic packed left as i bought a few spools before it disappeared.
As for pro clear i never used it but Terry had a lot of dealings with Berkley so it could have been one of theirs Trilene XL maybe.
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The original tinned 12lb was the best mono made. I’ve tried loads since then and all have their issues. Everyone raves about the synchro, found it gets loads of twist. Best was the cm90 in terms of usability, but now can’t get that either.
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im not sure why people are saying various editions are not the same as the original tinned stuff. Ive been using Technium black since 2000 and have bought multiple versions ... whether it is in tin or plastic packaging I have found it all pretty much the same (10lb and 12lb) .... How have people found it different?
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In reply to Post #7
If its the original stuff then yes, I once reeled in half a pallet with it from 60 yards out 😂 not sure if it’s changed or not, if it’s the original then il definitely be getting some.
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Does the 12lb sink well and is the abrasion resistance good
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In reply to Post #2
No stock in Daves of Middlewich as of now, on order though.
Good to hear it'll be the original g4fne, I'll be interested to see how it differs from what's on my reels.
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In reply to Post #4
A Very good line- if its the same as the stuff sold in the tins. - the latter stuff was not the same at all!
The best mono i have ever used was Pro Clear by Terry Eustace - wish i could still get my hands on that!
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Still cant find any shops that have it. Might give it a try to see what all the fuss is about. Will take something special to get me off esp syncro xt.
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pretty much sums up whether its the same as the original or not!
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In reply to Post #1
Thanks S, might pop into Daves and see
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Just a heads up. Just seen this on the Shimano Tribal Facebook page. Hope it helps...
******INFORMATION******
Below are all the stores who have Technium line on order currently.
Some of these stores have received stock with the majority of the rest expecting it soon.
Available in
8lb, 10lb, 12lb, 15lb
Angling and hiking centre
Angling direct
Basstastic Fishing Supplies
Carp Crazy
Carp Scene
Conky's Tackle Base
D and J Sports
Dave's of Middlewich
England Angling
Greens Fishing Tackle
Johnson Ross tackle
Melton Angling
Monton Bait and Tackle
N Trading LTD
Noahs Ark Pet and Fishing Tackle
Padiham angling centre
Parkfield fishing and angling centre
South Lakeland angling centre
TackleUK
The Angling Store
The Tackle Tavern
Total Tackle
Willy Worms
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