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cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #49 6 Aug 2024 at 7.41pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks mate
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   Old Thread  #48 5 Aug 2024 at 9.06pm  0  Login    Register
awesome news!

congrats on those captures - I'm so glad it all came together for you!
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #47 5 Aug 2024 at 8.32pm  4  Login    Register
Just an update regard my baiting campaign.

I blanked the last three sessions, but I've done very well indeed.
The week later the caught of the three carps i'd already tell, I had another take during the night and landed another beautiful 42lbs chestnut common.

The week later I had another carp, this time an upper 20 mirror .

After a blank I had another red letter session with a couple of mirrors, the first a late evening takes bring me a 55lbs big framed mirror that I had already caught few times in the past, and after the big mirror I had a mid 20 mirror during the night. This is the last carp I had from the swim.

The carp seems disappeared from the area, my thought is that they have moved to the spawning areas. The arrive of the hot weather here in Italy has rises up the water temp very quickly from 19 degrees in late June to the nowadays 25.
I think I will have a break in the baiting for few weeks to let rest the swim for a while since I didn't have any activity from the nuisance fish as well as the carp and don't want to pile up the fishing areas with baits.

Anyway, I 'm really happy with the results even if I struggle in april/may and been pestered by tench, I had 7 carps (7 are the total of the carp I had last year) in a little more than a month, that is a good achievement from the specific lake. Next year I'll try the spring/summer baiting approach again, maybe in other places of the lake (not so far from there, because I target a couple of carp that got caught in the past around that area).
Meanwhile, at the end of August I want to take up again the baiting of the area and see if it brings me other fish.
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   Old Thread  #46 6 Jun 2024 at 10.02am  0  Login    Register
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Well done mate , keep the faith.
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #45 4 Jun 2024 at 9.28pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks mate, I won't give up.

The plan is to continue to bait up all the summer and part of the autumn even if the catch will dry up (as I know they will, maybe right from the next one) and see what I'll catch and compare it to the previous years.
JamieNow
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   Old Thread  #44 4 Jun 2024 at 4.36pm  0  Login    Register
congrats on your capture sir.

I wouldn't give up on the spot yet - they know it is there & a place for food - keep it going in & I am sure you will get many more fish throughout the summer months.
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #43 4 Jun 2024 at 12.46pm  0  Login    Register
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That's right, the lake is fed by mountains snow, there's brown trouts swim about in it as well, it's very deep as well and that don't help to warms the water.

Surely there'll be though times when they start to spawn and for a few after it, but just the last success give me the ease that I needed, since I came from the longest blanks spell from the lake.
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   Old Thread  #42 3 Jun 2024 at 8.43pm  0  Login    Register
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The water Temps it's less than 17 degrees in the upper layer close to the bank when I checked it Saturday morning. We have had a lot of rain and cold weather recently.

That's crazy, are you in the Alps, is your lake fed from the mountain snow
I just did a search for latitudes and incedently a quora Q came up, 'why does Italy have warmer weather then the rest of Europe'!
The fishings only going to get better, then again if they haven't spawned maybe not....I give up, this is like the Technium thread
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #41 3 Jun 2024 at 8.33pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks mate.

The carp have not spawned yet, I know for sure they don't have any spawning behaviors at the moment, in my opinion they have at least 3/4 weeks to go. The water Temps it's less than 17 degrees in the upper layer close to the bank when I checked it Saturday morning. We have had a lot of rain and cold weather recently. I'll take in mind your hints.

The most important thing is that they had visited the swim and they started to eat on my baits and the catch say that. I've no idea how much they'll continue to visit the spot but, I must say that, at the moment, it's been a pleasure to see the spot growing.
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   Old Thread  #40 3 Jun 2024 at 6.03am  0  Login    Register
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Well done.

Now they have finished spawning and have turned up to eat, feed them and they will stay there for a good while. Now is the time to really start filling it in with bait. When you eventually stop catching, don't sit there on your hands hoping that they will come back... Go and do the same thing somewhere else. You will find them.

Fishing a bigger wild lake, is nothing like fishing a smaller angler pressured venue. Even though the fish are exactly the same, they behave completely different when under constant angler pressure.
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   Old Thread  #39 2 Jun 2024 at 10.18am  0  Login    Register
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even better after a long spell of blank
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   Old Thread  #38 2 Jun 2024 at 8.54am  0  Login    Register
Nice to hear a plan come together
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   Old Thread  #37 2 Jun 2024 at 6.21am  0  Login    Register
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Tanks mate I'll do it when there's something interesting, don't want to bother you more than I've done
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   Old Thread  #36 1 Jun 2024 at 9.48pm  0  Login    Register
Well done Sauro, the Carp have arrived and you've earned it let us know how it goes
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   Old Thread  #35 1 Jun 2024 at 9.07pm  3  Login    Register
Finally arrived the carp. I'm well chuffed, the last session is been something that happen rarely from the lake, but let's start with order.

Last Saturday I got there in the afternoon and fished up to Sunday mid morning: blanked. Neither a tench. but in the early night I heard a big carp crashing the water few meters from where I was, close to the bank in front of a poplar tree, and another carp (not big as the other) on the left. I had one rod very close to both but in deeper water. And another rod not so far on the right in deeper water as well. Don't move any of the rods in the hope they'd go down or move toward one of the rods. Blanked but I was happy to have had carp's presence in front of me.

Yesterday I got there after work, arrived in late afternoon and when I was due to cast the second rod in front of the big poplar, I saw a carp swimming slowly in front of me. Pendulum cast quietly I can manage, followed by three little spoon of particles and a dozen of boilies scattered around. About one hour and a half later the rod in front of the poplar tree gone off and I had the first carp of the year from the lake, a little (for the lake standard) common of something between 18 and 19 lbs. Recasted the rod in position with the same 24 mms boilie, baited in the same way as before and come back to bed in the hope of more action during the night. At around 3:30 the same rod had a take and after a hard fight I netted another common carp, only this time more on the lake's standard than the previous, just under 50 pounds (in kilograms 22,4). One hour later the right hand rod went off and caught another common, the little of the three.

Finally the plan start to come together and I hope that the carp will continue to visit the area in the months onwards. Finger crossed
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #34 22 May 2024 at 12.43pm  0  Login    Register
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Tried it with a grain of maize with no results. I gets the toughts about the meshed hemp isn't the same as the seeds around, but during the dark hours don't think they'd found differences, almost all the tench got caught at night.

To keep carp on my baited spots should be well over my expectations, I hope they will start to visit the area soon.
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   Old Thread  #32 21 May 2024 at 9.26pm  1  Login    Register
you can definitely keep wild carp in really big lakes (500+ acres) in an area for extended periods of time by constant prebaiting with particles however your results will drop off over time - especially with bigger fish.

I have managed to keep fish in an area for 5 months from July to November a couple of years ago by baiting with approx 40kg bait a week - maize, hemp, tigers & boilies. A few fish were caught multiple times & the action remained steady throughout all this time whilst other anglers in the area struggled however the same tactics in the same area dropped off when I tried it in the following years.

Also worth noting that big fish came very early on in the campaign & dropped over time so that now there are no big fish being caught from the spot at all. This is similar to other areas on the lake - heavily fished spots tend to only provide smaller fish.

TCarper is correct about fish not wanting to be in places they don't want to be & in the spring, food is the last thing to be keeping them in an area - they want warmth & easy life & I have found they will only be in some area's for a very limited amount of time - sometimes just a few weeks before they head off elsewhere.

with respect to the meshed hemp - I suspect they aren't eating it because it doesn't look like the rest of the hemp. try it with a small bit of yellow plastic on top & I bet they'll start taking it.

cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #30 21 May 2024 at 8.30pm  0  Login    Register
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The lake I'm on don't has this problem, very rarely we caught carp under 20 lbs. But there are a lot of nuisance fish that nibble the hook baits and, sometimes get hooked when they try to eat the boilies, caught some rudd with a double 24 mms.

I thought that tench eat the hemps (why not?) but, at the moment I haven't caught one with them, only on boilies, even if baited only boilies without particles.
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #29 21 May 2024 at 8.10pm  0  Login    Register
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They haven't spawned yet, spawning time on the lake is around the end of June up to mid July, but it could be even a bit forward, a mate told me he caught a male that release sperm in August. At the moment the water temperature is 16 degrees close to the bank (last year reach 23 degrees at max). It is high on the mountain and it's feeds by some streams with cold water, few weeks ago snowed on top of the mountains around the lake as well.

Maybe some little cyprinus as rudds or chubs are due to spawn, they are beginning to gather close tu te banks. The rudds or roach (I'm not able to understand which one of them, maybe both) release the eggs on the rocks close to the bank, the last week end they weren't spawning yet.

The carps spawn in few places around the lake, where there are some submerged trees, the closest it's a bit far from the area I fish.
Never saw a tadpole there, and this is a bonus as you haven't the frogs croak all the night
The problem is that the carps don't eat often on the bottom, they found food in layers.
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   Old Thread  #28 21 May 2024 at 3.32pm  0  Login    Register
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With regards to hemp I'm pretty sure tench will gorge themselves on it should they get given the chance. I was wondering if the Tench might be so pre occupied with the hemp that they're being hooked incidently on the boilie, especially if it's all mixed up.
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   Old Thread  #27 21 May 2024 at 1.42pm  0  Login    Register
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When I lived and fished in Austria , I tried many combinations of bait sizes , one lake I fished was stocked with 1 and 2 KG carp every year , the lake does contain carp to over 30kg though , it's just getting through the small ones. I tried 24mm baits without success , I ended up at hand rolled 40mm hookbaits in an effort to try and avoid hooking the smaller carp , however I still caught small carp on the 40mm baits. I came to the conclusion that the only way to fish this lake for the bigger fish was to stalk the fish with one rod and floating dog biscuits.

With regards to hemp I'm pretty sure tench will gorge themselves on it should they get given the chance.
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   Old Thread  #26 21 May 2024 at 7.47am  0  Login    Register
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I see your location is Italy, am I right in thinking the fish have spawned already there, with you being in a warmer climate, I know in France they often spawn in April from experience.
Are you near a area where they Carp spawn anyway? You can probably already guess what I'm thinking Could they be pre occupied on Tadpole, other fished eggs etc?
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #25 19 May 2024 at 7.51pm  0  Login    Register
After the philosophical thought we'll better to come back to the topic

Last night I fished the same swim and, after a really quite night, I had a scattered take and caught a hard fighter little tench. Fished with 24 mms boilie and hooked the smallest tench since April. The tench get hooked while it tried to eat the big bait, the hook has pinched just out the bottom lip.

Yet no signs of carps in the area but there were shoal of chubs patrolling the bank and some rudd with them.
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #24 19 May 2024 at 7.28pm  0  Login    Register
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Absolutely

In angling there's only one thing better than wake up on the bank and warm up your bones with the first sun lights after a long, cold winter night; and that's to catch a carp that same morning
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   Old Thread  #23 17 May 2024 at 8.10pm  2  Login    Register
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The only thing I know for sure is that this year I'll spend more money than the past years. But, at the moment, I 'm enjoying the "static campaign", obviously I hope in a change of fish specie .
I like your attitude, it doesn't have to be about the most, or the biggest fish, just enjoying yourself is surely enough
Angling means different things to different people
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #22 17 May 2024 at 8.05pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks, I'll need it

I agree with you, I well know that's hard to stop the carps in a specific area. The only thing I know for sure is that this year I'll spend more money than the past years. But, at the moment, I 'm enjoying the "static campaign", obviously I hope in a change of fish specie .
The swim I choose isn't a bad swim at all, it's a really good place to fish, especially in spring and summer months, where in the past some really big carp has been caught. Finger crossed
cinisimon
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   Old Thread  #21 17 May 2024 at 6.47pm  0  Login    Register
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You're right in everything, but... but sometimes isn't a bad thing to do some mistakes

I was used to fish in a different way indeed: with few baits around the hook bait, no particles (tried tigers in the past very few times) only boilies. It's because I know well that you can catch a carp there only if you fish where they are eating their natural food (mother nature, as you say) and not cause they are attracted by any baits, this is a gospel on that specific lake.
But this year I want to try a different approach if it's the right or the wrong decision I 'll see at the end of the year.

There are a couple of reasons for this decision, one is to create a feeding area, the arrive of the tench is a signal that it should work. Yes, I caught tench in the past (at max 2/3 per years) but not so much as this year (at least with the tench it's working), plus the tench activity can attract some carps. The other reason is to try to catch some carp that very rarely eat the boilie (the carps we catch are often the sames) and the use of particles is for this specific reason.

A thing I haven't mentioned before is my fishing approach. I don't chuck out buckets of baits when I get to the swim, but I fish with very few baits scattered around, just before leaving I throw out the big amount of the remaining baits on the fishing spot in the hopes that they can remain on the bottom for few days (the use of maize is for this reason, and the add of tiger and, maybe, others particles as peanuts, when the water temps will be warmer) in waits for carps.
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   Old Thread  #20 17 May 2024 at 1.34pm  0  Login    Register
Trying to create a feeding spot for nomadic Carp can be very hit and miss

I completely agree, in fact I'd go further and say it's pointless trying to stop the mass, you simply won't be able to put enough bait in the area to hold them, and that's even if they want to be in that area, like TC says, not to mention even if you did stop them temporarily they might still prefer to roam once they've had their fill, learnt behaviour/creatures of habit.

I'm not saying I wouldn't do what you're trying to do, it may well throw a nice surprise as it's known some fish are just different in their behaviour to others, quite often the bigger ones.

I guess you've decided not to chase them around the lake which most folk would do, I'd be interested to know how how get on, good luck
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   Old Thread  #19 17 May 2024 at 7.50am  3  Login    Register
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Simply put, you have been fishing with the wrong bait for the time of year, 100% in the wrong area of the lake too. The tench are there, because the carp are not.

Carp anglers (not directed at you personally) get very confused, and end up doing the right things... But at the very wrong time. That = blanks, or catching tench, when you are fishing for carp. Then what happens, is at the right time, they think that the method which previously did not work for them, is not really any good. It's just not understanding the situation, and when to apply exactly what methods.

At this time of year, you are NEVER going to attract the carp, or any fish to an area that they do not want to be in. That's never going to happen. Mother nature tells them where to go in the spring, not your bait. Warmth from the sun... Fresh weed, sprouting pads, all are emitting signals that attract the carp in the spring. Applying particle mass baits before they spawn, is not the one at all. You are never going to beat mother nature, why are you even trying? When they wake up in the spring they are still dopey. They do not want to gorge on food. Until AFTER they have spawned. In the spring, get on the fish, and put a single hook bait near them. You should be catching them for fun.

Most carp anglers make big mistakes in the spring. They spend the winter planning at home, what bait, what methods, what they are going to do, what swim. They watch videos of anglers hauling late summer using a certain method, and think that will work in the spring. They buy it all, prepare it at home, it's all part of the fun....TERRIBLE angling though.

In the spring, get on the fish, put a good single hook bait somewhere near them, and you will catch them. It's not rocket science. But you are never going to be spoon fed that by companies who want to sell you loads of bait. When they are preparing for spawning, the LAST thing they actually want to do is to eat large quantities of bait. After they have spawned.... FILL IT IN. That is when mass particles and pre baiting come into their own. Then you can attract them with bait, then you can beat mother nature. You will never beat mother nature in the spring. If you cannot get your head around singles, then the most boillies you should be putting in pre spawning should be 3 or 4 around each hook bait. They should be pre soaked and easy for the fish to process. Their bodies, when they wake up in the spring are still cold. They are still a bit dumb as a consequence. Their bodies are not even working properly to process lots of food until they reach a certain temp. Carp anglers get confused, because carp will trough bait in the depths of our winter.... But that is because in terms of water temps, the fish are not really actually cold yet. After they have had a little 'hibernate' in late Jan & Feb, when they wake up, until they spawn.... Putting in lots of bait will make things harder. But it's what so many carp anglers do, after a winter of 'planning'.

I am talking about what is the best for catching the carp right now, March April & May.

After they have spawned. Salt (minerals). Loads of bait. More bait. Even more bait.
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   Old Thread  #18 15 May 2024 at 10.24pm  0  Login    Register
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A hard, really nice challenge thats for sure, and the reward is wonderful as well.

I know that I'd wast my time, but this year want to see what it brings to me.
Just to say I don't catch a carp from the lake since September, even if last year it's been a good one with 7 Carps caught, 5 of them in January and February, I'd found where they were grouped and caught very well (one of them my pb). But from September neither one take. Fishing there is always hit and miss, you could have a good spell of catch like a lot of blanks.
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   Old Thread  #17 15 May 2024 at 8.52pm  0  Login    Register
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Trying to create a feeding spot for nomadic Carp can be very hit and miss. It may work out for you in the end, but equally you could be wasting your time. Also just because Caro are in a particular area, it doesn't necessarily mean they will be feeding there. But if you have tench feeding then there's every chance the carp will follow them one day . It sounds like a nice challenge
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   Old Thread  #16 15 May 2024 at 8.22pm  0  Login    Register
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Don't catch the carp because, at the moment the weren't in my swim, that's my thought.

Just to clarify, the lake is a big lake, don't know how many acres, but it's long 3 kilometers and wide 1 kilometer. The carps are really nomadic, so they can be in one place and the next week they could be really far from where they were. I fished the swim from the beginning of April, and I didn't have the feeling they'd there, no one leap, crashing or no one carp spotted. But finally, sunday morning I found a big shoal of carps basking in the upper layer where they used to groups. It's in a non fishing zone, but it isn't so far from where I fish. So I'm looking forward to the next session.
This year I changed my usual fishing tactics, it's the first time in over ten years I fish the lake that I trying to establish a feeding area with particles. In the past I was used to change swims if I don't got any clue of the presence of Carps. Only when I know they were there I was starting to put more baits (only boilies) on the fishing spot.
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   Old Thread  #15 15 May 2024 at 7.43pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks mate, for sure.
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   Old Thread  #14 15 May 2024 at 4.06pm  0  Login    Register
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Tench definitely eat hemp. It does seem odd that you aren't getting them on a rod fishing hemp though. As for not catching the caro, maybe they don't want to feed on that particular spot?
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   Old Thread  #13 15 May 2024 at 3.36pm  0  Login    Register
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Good luck, let us know how you get on
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   Old Thread  #12 15 May 2024 at 12.47pm  0  Login    Register
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If the mesh bags lighter than the boilie you'd imagine it'd enter the mouth more easily with less effort from the fish, odd, maybe they don't like Hemp, very odd.

That's odds to me, as well, but it's what makes me think about they don't like Hemp. Well, if they don't like it isn't a bad thing for me, at all. Maybe the seeds are there in wait for the passing Carps. Or, the tench are attracted by the boilies and eat them first and when they don't find it anymore they eat the particles. This is the worst scenario, indeed.

I will continue to baits the area waiting for the carps to come and hoping when they'd arrive they homing there and I'll be able to catch few of them. We'll see
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   Old Thread  #11 15 May 2024 at 1.24am  0  Login    Register
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Double 18s, 6lb Tench they are keen!
I suppose to rule out the mesh you could try meshing a boilie see if that has a reaction.
If the mesh bags lighter than the boilie you'd imagine it'd enter the mouth more easily with less effort from the fish, odd, maybe they don't like Hemp, very odd.

Alternative ways to rig hemp, pat dry and superglue to the hair/shank of hook, cork ball for pop up. Kryston used to do a product called bogey, like a very thick none setting glue, it was great for particles but a real pita on the hands


I'd imagine if you were really careful you could thread hemp onto a maggot clip, or use fake hemp (much easier).
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   Old Thread  #10 14 May 2024 at 8.23pm  0  Login    Register
Saturday session I caught all the tench with a double 18 mms in two different boilies one, a classic birdfood banana and maple flavoured, and the other a birdfood bait without any flavour, only spices and others things as attractant.

Never heard of the hutchy method, he hooked the rubber band or he tied it in other ways?
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   Old Thread  #9 14 May 2024 at 8.08pm  0  Login    Register
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The meshed hemp is lighter than the 18 mms bait I used the size is quite the same 16/18 mms. Maybe some foam or a fake maize on top can work better and aid, but I think that it's not the rig mechanic the issue, I'm quite sure the fish doesn't go to the meshed hemp, if that's for the difference between the free offering and the rigged bait or something other I don't know.
Switch to bigger baits is something I always do, fish with 18 mms during the winter time, from November to June and with 24 mms the summer to the autumn. This year I will change a bit earlier than usual due to the tench activity.
Saturday morning is already planned a 60 eggs mix
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   Old Thread  #8 14 May 2024 at 6.21pm  0  Login    Register
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You could try the old Rod Hutchinson method, superglue several grains of Hemp on to a wide section of Rubber band, then nick that onto the hook.
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   Old Thread  #7 14 May 2024 at 3.22pm  2  Login    Register
I've never been a fan of hemp as a hook bait. Whatever you try do, it will never mimic the other hemp as a free offering. I think the issue is more so the rig/presentation, rather than the hemp.
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   Old Thread  #6 14 May 2024 at 1.19pm  0  Login    Register
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I don't think your wrong uping the size of the boilies, it will work. I used to fish a water with lovely Tench to over 10lb, they hammered Crab & Mussel boilies in 15mm, you'd cast in late of a summer night and you could see the fish moving the weed from meters away homing in on the bait. Change that to double 15mm and the bites from Tench dropped right off, same with 20mm's.
I'm sure the hemp is putting out a desirable food signal, maybe a tweek of the rig, a little piece of foam on the hook to counter balance it's weight, maybe check the weight of 1 of your meshed bags and compare to the boilies. Are the mesh bag and boilie the same size?
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   Old Thread  #5 14 May 2024 at 12.54pm  0  Login    Register
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The hemp is meshed and tied on a ring, fished in that way on one rod the last four sessions and not a single beep comes from this rod.

If the tench don't eat the hempseed is more a wish, I hope that they don't eat it, so maybe something remains on the bottom after the nuisance fish has passed.
I'm pretty sure that at the end of Sunday there weren't any boilies remained, and I can get there only during the week end, so if there something that remains more days on the bottom the better, maybe it can attract some carp.
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   Old Thread  #4 14 May 2024 at 12.37pm  0  Login    Register
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That's my thought indeed.

The tench arrived in the area first and they are feasting on my prebait, what happened Saturday night it's been nothing I'd witnessed before, from evening to dawn the tench were jumping all over in front of me like excited, and they feed as well, 6 takes 5 thencs all around 6 lbs. It'd be very pleasant to get them with lighter gear.

What I'm thinking at the moment is to fish with biggest boilies, 24 mm on the rig or Double 24 it will be the choice for the next sessions in the hope that the carps will arrive in front of my swim.

But on one rod I want to continue to fish with the hemp and see what it brings
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   Old Thread  #3 14 May 2024 at 10.27am  0  Login    Register
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(they were there for the boilie).
Not so sure about that from a catching point of view but maybe from a nutritional one.

The only rod that don't have any action it's been the one where I fished with the hemp on the rig
How was it presented would be my 1st Q? This goes back to why you caught on boilie, ease of presenting effectively, off setting the hook weight etc.

From my experience fish get pre occupied on small particles and root up the bottom, especially with hemp, they certainlly don't pick and choose at suction, most definately in the mouth though. if you can get your hook/hemp hook bait to act in a way similar to the loose offerings you'll be in with a much better chance, imo, or not if trying to avoid, as you may be finding.
MARKerz
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   Old Thread  #2 14 May 2024 at 8.32am  0  Login    Register
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Am sure the Tench will be eating the Hempseed, they feed more slow & subtly than Carp and do seem to work around our methods at times quite quick.

Might just be a case of them finding the boilie hook baits easier than a few grains on a rig that could get buried a little?
You have the added attraction of the boilies leaking out which may be easier for them to pick up on?
At times fish go for the biggest mouthful they can, maybe change the hemp rig to something a little different & see if that makes a difference?

Plenty of variables but it's what makes it interesting for me.
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   Old Thread  #1 13 May 2024 at 9.02pm  0  Login    Register
Hi everyone.
Maybe someone should think, reading the title of the tread, that it'd be better in other species section, but it's related to carps in a way or another.
Anyway, my question for you is if anyone know if the tench eat the hemp or not?

My doubt about it is because this year, since the beginning of April, I'd prebaited an area of the lake I fish with maize, hemp and boilies in an attempt to attract the carps in the area where I'm fishing.
The results are, at the moment, that only the tenchs are attracted by my efforts. Not bad as it seems that the strategy start to work and the carps will come there sooner or later (at least I'm hoping).
I had nine tenchs in the last few sessions and five of them only the last one, front Saturday evening to sunday morning, all caught on boilies, and only one on boilies topped by a grain of maize (they were there for the boilie). The only rod that don't have any action it's been the one where I fished with the hemp on the rig. These results made me think at the possibilities that the tenchs don't eat the hemp. It seems strange to me, but who knows. I have used very rarely the hemp in the past and I've not a lot of experience with them.

So, does anyone have an answer to my doubt?

The lake is a really big and deep water and the temperature is 15° at the moment
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