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In reply to Post #94
If it was your electricity bill, you probably wouldn’t be subscribing in the first place…..
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In reply to Post #84
"Honestly for £23 it’s not really worth it. It’s just the principal of it that’s so annoying"
If that was your electric bill you'd be all over it as would anyone else. The only reason he hasn't done anything about it is because he's still getting away with it.
The bloke is a thief and should be treated as such.
As consumers, you have the responsibility to report it to protect yourselves as well as other consumers in the future. Not reporting it is condoning it.
I tell you what, if nothing is done within the next week i'll sort it out myself. People need to stop ****ing themselves into a pulp over false idols and hold them to account. They ain't your mates, they want your money. They are a business, not your friend. Treat them as you would any other business who is taking money out of your account without permission.
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In reply to Post #92
Maybe they were embarrassed into doing it considering all the feedback?
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In reply to Post #77
Update:
I hadn’t received an email response, but they were actively posting on social media about the latest new film etc which annoyed me, so I commented on their Instagram post.
Half an hour later I had an email saying I’d get a full refund as well as 3 months free.
Can’t really complain, but a shame it takes all that for them to sort it.
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I got an email today telling me I had a free 24 hour pass
Just binned it
Does anyone want the code lol
I won’t be using it
CYP-GRBJR17F
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In reply to Post #88
Good post
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In reply to Post #88
Its not the expensive syndicates so much, i cant believe some of the prices these day tickets charge.
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In reply to Post #86
Sorry to say but that’s a snobbish attitude.
There’s good and bad in all walks of life. It’s nothing new, and it’s certainly not unique to fishing. You only need to look at what this government has done (or not done) over the last 13 years to understand why we have the social issues we have in this country.
I’ve met some of my favourite people in the world through fishing. Some of them are wealthy, some of them are far from it, but we all love fishing and our life outside of it isn’t important.
Expensive syndicates are not a good thing. Fishing has always been a fantastic leveller, but it’s becoming more and more elitist.
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Hopefully I've successfully un subscribed from cypography, I simply filled in the un subscribe form and sent it. I received an email back from them,then a few days later my bank emailed me to say that the payment had been cancelled.
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In reply to Post #85
Of course, in the last 10 plus years the carp tackle companies have appealed to the bottom of society, the same lads that have a rough looking dog, a rough looking Mrs and a 10 year old BMW. If you dont believe me check out the FB posts.
A gaff on rent that stinks of stale chip fat and stale biscuits and people wonder why the feft of carp tackle is so prevalent?
Fish an expensive syndicate, well educated lads, great ethics, great all round anglers, can hold a conversation, can string a sentence together, hold down great jobs or own their own companies, the only thing like life keeping the scum out is the cost, this is going to come to a syndicate near you .
Not everyone can afford this but at least show you belong, in this world today sadly money drives everything even the good and bad in humanity.
The lad that owns the company is nothing more than a scammer but he's got to look good for the want it all now Mr's
Just another chancer living well above his income.
Sounds a bit harsh but its the truth, please show me a link to the contrary
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In reply to Post #84
And if everybody thinks the same this con man has won, probably what he was thinking when he set it up to skank everybody 
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In reply to Post #83
Honestly for £23 it’s not really worth it. It’s just the principal of it that’s so annoying.
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In reply to Post #79
Well said 
Blatant ****ing con man, it’s not honourable to the customers and is just downright disrespectful, pinching their money, they don’t want the service anymore
They should also make him pay it back.
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In reply to Post #80
Looks like his practise of deleting customers emails from Korda just continus on... Why it wouldnt, looks like people would rather cancel their card than confront him.
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In reply to Post #79
When you see them in the office , couple of mates , one who is being pushed as the wild man , and his potty mouth wife , all seems a bit ........... Essex rather than professional 🤔
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In reply to Post #77
Get onto trading standards and out this pr!ck, why would carpers take this crap... 
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In reply to Post #77
That’s similar thing that happened to me all be with my monthly emailed straight after a monthly payment . Took the following even after another email then locked out.
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I completed the form to cancel last week.
Yesterday my payment was taken £23.99 for 3 months. Not the end of the world I thought, maybe they hadn’t processed my cancellation in time. I assumed therefore would have 3 months more access…….nope I’m locked out. Took the money, then cancelled my account. Cheers lads.
Emailed yesterday, no reply as yet.
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In reply to Post #12
RE: "What a piss take - people unsubscribing and then having money still taken out of their account. Bang out of order.
Jump in your motor and drive to Burghfeld and front the bloke up for your money back. "
BETTER still is complain BIG-TIME on FB , YT every where on social media - because word will quickly get around what a F***** A****** this guy is! ...and he won't want that cos it will soon screw his salesscam video BS biz up 
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In reply to Post #74
I will give it a watch on my next flight. Cheers. I remember the news story.
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In reply to Post #73
If you haven’t seen it already then I would highly recommend The Rescue on Disney+. Incredible story.
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In reply to Post #56
I have paid Disney a fortune. Watched bugger all on it. I just pay the bills 
Amazon Prime & Netflix for me if I'm ever watching anything. That's normally only downloaded films and series for travelling too.
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In reply to Post #67
"This is a new accepted norm of any genre of subscriptions".
"That's not what i was referring to at all, read the post again".
"In fact no one has mentioned that they are being charged months after cancelling the subscription with the company directly. that would be pure theft and they would be in court!"
Why do I need to read the post again? These are all your words above. I read it just fine the first time. I read the whole thread just fine and understood it.
People are cancelling, on the given method by the company itself, on the companies website. But the subscription continues taking money until they eventually notice. I only even read the thread, as I saw the same thing being discussed on faceache by different people the other day. Three months one bloke, who was going mental. Posting screenshots of messages between himself and the owner. If you reread this thread you will see others saying the very same thing.
All of my recurring subscriptions are on cards or PayPal. Nothing is direct debit anymore. I either cancel with the company itself, or on my iTunes account. At the end of that month it's all over. No more money is taken. I certainly never have to go to my bank, or PayPal to actually stop someone from taking my money.
People 'normalising' this in this thread are not helping. That's the only reason I replied to you. But after reading your reply, you clearly did not understand what was even going on. The 'odd' person could be a mistake, yes. But that is not the case here is it.
If you have a subscription and you cancel it with the company, obviously it should be cancelled and no more cash taken. That's quite important. They really need to get it sorted out sharpish.
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In reply to Post #67
Several people have mentioned being charged after cancelling on this thread myself included
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In reply to Post #69
CAS designed and manufactured a buzz bar, which Elliot went onto market as the Elliot Grey Buzz Bar. Elliot then sold the design onto OMC.
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In reply to Post #66
What was that?
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In reply to Post #67
Yes they are, that's exactly what the post is about.
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In reply to Post #53
Quote ''You cancelling your subscription, then being charged for many months afterwards is a whole different ball park altogether.''
?? That's not what i was referring to at all, read the post again.
In fact no one has mentioned that they are being charged months after cancelling the subscription with the company directly. that would be pure theft and they would be in court!
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The whole thing with Eliott and the Custom angling solutions buzz bars amd OMC was pretty shady too.
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In reply to Post #64
I’ve cancelled again on the strength of this thread. I thought the bloke was alright but turns out maybe not.
I will say it was really easy to cancel through my bank and I’m not sure why you wouldn’t do it this way in the 1st place. I didn’t have to cancel the card, just end the recurrent payments in the banking app. Took 10 seconds and the there is no chance that another payment can come out.
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In reply to Post #58
Know’s exactly what he is doing, ****ing con man
That’s what I thought was strange, just cancel the direct debit.
Report him. Should make him pay it all back
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In reply to Post #62
Post should be pinned with a big warning sign scam so anyone visiting forum would be aware of this scam.
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In reply to Post #61
Bit late then. Easiest way is cancel your card and get another.
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In reply to Post #58
My Cyp sub was on an annual credit card recurring basis,
I submitted the cancellation request per the FAQ instruction, and received an email A couple of weeks later confirming cancellation.
Just need to watch the card statement in May24 to ensure it worked!
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In reply to Post #57
Trading standards would be a little Intrested in this
I’m sure one of the cyp guys was posting on this thread before and maybe he should step up and take responsibility and sort it out
I am not a subscriber and definitly wouldn’t whilst this practise is going on.
Ps
Whilst at it move that stupid unlock banner out of the way so terms and conditions link can be opened..
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Unreal - blokes being taken for mugs.
That clown needs to explain himself why he is ripping anglers off
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In reply to Post #57
I know I keep going on, but it’s a recurring card payment, not a direct debit. They do it that way as there are rules around DD’s and they wouldn’t get away with it if they used them. If you’ve done it on a credit card, or you are in your overdraft when the payments are made to cyp, you can ask your card supplier or bank to refund the money as they’d be liable for it.
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In reply to Post #51
Who should people report this too.
I'm certainly not a subscriber, but even the guys who have managed to cancel their direct debit to cancel should still report this dodgy practice to help save other poor unfortunate souls from carp fishing video boredom.
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In reply to Post #53
at least Disney is more interesting than 99.99% of carp content
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Had a similar experience to those on this thread, money still being taken after cancelling on the website and only receiving confirmation that it had been cancelled after I contacted them directly by email. Fully aware that it's a strategy employed by a lot of subscription based companies but I feel like it stings a bit more when its pulled by a company, within a smallish industry, that is built around a common love for a hobby. Carp fishing is an egalitarian pursuit with people from all walks of life coming together on the bank, so it feels wrong that they've set up a business model that deliberatley misleads fellow anglers.
As for the content you get for the money, I'd say about 25% of it was value for money. Really enjoyed the 'For The Record' series with famous anglers who've caught some of the most iconic carp in the land, but not sure if I consider gear reviews of products Elliott Gray admits he hasn't used or a video of him taking his Mrs fishing worthy of the subscription fee in any way.
Much better content for free on YouTube.
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In reply to Post #51
They can yes
Most companies hope that you can’t be bothered
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In reply to Post #52
Quote... This is a new accepted norm of any genre of subscriptions. bit like the try free for a month then you forget to cancel and they take the money for the next month.
It's really not the same thing at all though is it?
You being enticed into a subscription with a free month, and then forgetting to cancel, is your fault.
You cancelling your subscription, then being charged for many months afterwards is a whole different ball park altogether. I've now seen lots of people saying the exact same thing. Not just here but also on Faceache.
I have tonnes of subscriptions. Netflix, Disney, YouTube etc etc. When I cancel, it's cancelled instantly and no one takes anymore money. Not ever. If they did, I would have the absolute raving.
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In reply to Post #51
This is a new accepted norm of any genre of subscriptions. bit like the try free for a month then you forget to cancel and they take the money for the next month.
Bloody annoying, although ive not used any of these cyprography type things, i can imagine the annoyance.
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In reply to Post #50
Shocking, can’t things like this be reported?
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In reply to Post #18
I take back what I said. Even though I had cancelled they've still taken my money for another 3 months.
So cancelling with the bank. Livid. Won't be resubscribing again now.
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Actually surprised people subscribe to this durge in the first place... 
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In reply to Post #47
They? He
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In reply to Post #46
The company makes it unfairly difficult to cancel subscriptions.
And that is so wrong. I am sure they know exactly what they are doing
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In reply to Post #45
Beware Cypography subscription cancellation. The company makes it unfairly difficult to cancel subscriptions. I had to cancel the subscription at source. Lesson learned. The content was surprisingly crap too.
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In reply to Post #1
Had the same thing nightmare trying to unsubscribe That’s why I won’t restart it Cheeky get had 2 months more than I wanted out of me
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there is the income from youtube to consider.. i guess thats why they are released after so long.
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In reply to Post #42
Of course he will, that will form part of the business's outgoings.
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In reply to Post #41
I presume he has to pay the people that appear in/on it?
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In reply to Post #38
Sounds like 64k of that is from people who can’t unsubscribe
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In reply to Post #38
Won't last long at his age with a mortgage and other out goings when it all goes tits up.
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When i went to cancel my subscription their cancellation form didn't work and certainly not in their 10 working days quote, it was only after i stopped my bank payments i finally unsubscribed.
Judging by others comments i am not the only one this happened to
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In reply to Post #35
Well, he had £114,564 cash at hand in July 2022 as his abridged accounts on Companies attest that.
I'm not his accountant but its fairly easy to get a feel of his position and the company's success by looking at the ltd accounts from 2020 onwards 
But in light of the general theme in this thread, the cancellation approach is poor, very poor. Almost intentionally difficult. Cypography took proceeding month funds from me despite repeated cancellation requests. In the end, I just cancelled the Paypal repetition. It's the only way to be entirely sure with the firm.
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Free bait, free gear and pays himself to go fishing. Even if he’s not making a fortune in profit he’s made a nice life for himself. Fair play to him.
I subscribe for a bit, cancel for a bit etc. Mainly for the long form interviews with some more interesting anglers. Although they do seem to have dried up a bit.
Never had a problem cancelling with the bank.
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In reply to Post #33
His admin needs sorting, that's an understatement
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In reply to Post #27
To start I'd like to say I hope he succeeds in business and in life even after my earlier comment but I have a genuine question, Is he making a very good living and what would make you think that?
Unless your his accountant how would you know, it can sometimes be all smoke and mirrors in business, here is my thinking he only incorporated the company in 2017 and most startup's dont make a thing in the first three years lucky to pay back any investment and take a reasonable living from it, at that point from when he started unfortunately covid kicked in which luckily for him producing fishing content he was quite quickly entitled to carry on with where a lot of other activities went on hold for months on end and plenty of businesses folded off the back of it, Fishing was one of the mass participation hobbies least affected so you could say he was quite lucky, the tackle companies and shops had their best time in years it also coincided with a lot of people stuck at home and gorging in online entertainment which probably also no doubt helped his subs, also if he qualified due to when he started he may have been entitled to the small business deposit of 10K from local council or a Boris bailouts/bounce back loan, who knows plenty did and have still never paid it back.
I'd say the next few years will be what decides his and others like him to be a success or failure, as a business model circa 80 pound a year for a full sub means he needs a constant 6250 anglers a year staying fully subscribed year on year to turnover half a million which as we know isn't profit, depending on overheads/outgoing's and if he's the only one drawing a wage from it then I'd say he's doing well, and his accounts are not anywhere near that at the moment.
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In reply to Post #33
Lol sure he will
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In reply to Post #31
Like I said, his Admin needs sorting out....
I'm sure you have/will get it back.... 
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In reply to Post #29
And the lad at Baden Hall who had 2 cans of Redbull while I chatted to him for 10 mins, he was like a cat on a hot tin roof, swapped swims 3 times in a hour.
PMSL. Think I might start and take a can 
Was on the Trent the other day, knew I should have moved swims again and didn’t 
I fished a day ticket for a couple of nights a few years ago, lad come past me for a 24 hour session with a slab of Stella on the barrow, went the next day, bloke in the next swim told me he had done the lot lol 
I bet that gives you wings
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In reply to Post #30
He's obviously doing well.....is a valid reason that he stole money from my bank account...twice? what are you on
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OK, they guys admin might leave a bit to be desired, he needs to sort that out and get cancellations sorted swiftly when requested, but this thread is a classic example of the modern culture of slagging off anyone who is being reasonably successful.
Elliot may not be everyone's cup of tea but he's obviously doing well and people are happy to pay for his services. Good luck to the bloke I say.
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I don't think this forum is a very good representative of the Carp fishing world. I think mostly this forum represents an older angler with probably a more old school mentality.
Thank god for that
When I did do FB it reminds me of a guy trying to contact Carp Lounge, "I've sent them 6 messages today and they've not replied"...wth
And the lad at Baden Hall who had 2 cans of Redbull while I chatted to him for 10 mins, he was like a cat on a hot tin roof, swapped swims 3 times in a hour.
I can't imagine the stress it causes the younger generation not to get a instant reply...it makes me wonder why they have the patience for Fishing full stop*
Yes a sweeping generalisation from a older angler, flame me
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In reply to Post #26
Yeah, I’m sure if people started turning up at Bughfield wanting to chat with him about this, the cancellation issue would soon be rectified.
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In reply to Post #25
Elliot G is making a very good living out of cypography.
I think it's rubbish value tbh but others obviously think differently
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In reply to Post #22
To be fair, if you are close to Burghfield it may be worth the drive for some
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In reply to Post #23
I don't think this forum is a very good representative of the Carp fishing world. I think mostly this forum represents an older angler with probably a more old school mentality.
There's a newer generation of angler who probably don't even remember a time before cypography existed I haven't got a clue how many subs these people get, some of them don't seem to really push the advertising very hard either, I'm.guessing because they don't have too.
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In reply to Post #17
I don't think you can put Cypography in the same bracket as the Twig and re-hooking fish.... 
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I wonder how much life there is left in these subscription platforms, seems every dog and his dick is having ago and I get the feeling people are not staying with it for long just from this small thread alone and others I've seen, I get the impression they're not what they're cracked up to be, with the exception of possibly Daryl Peck just by his social media count and presence who might make a fist of it with enough subscribing to make it a viable project but the others I think will have a short shelf life.
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In reply to Post #12
Jump in your motor and drive to Burghfeld and front the bloke up for your money back
Jesus Christ, its a few quid feels like fb on here every now and then 
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In reply to Post #19
Sorry Scott, I was just trying to make the point that it was straightforward to cancel and not difficult. I tend to subscribe for a bit, watch a few, cancel, and then resign up. Love the content you guys are doing.
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In reply to Post #19
That is true, I cancelled Carpfix very easily when I decided I no longer wanted it.
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In reply to Post #18
Sorry you’re giving wrong information about CarpFix. It’s very easy to cancel via the website, go to the billing page in ‘my account’ and you can cancel there. No questions asked and no waiting time. If you sign up via an app you need to cancel direct with Apple/Google as your subscription is managed by them. This can be done in the relevant AppStore.
Regards, Scott.
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In reply to Post #3
I subscribe for a month, watch a few films, then cancel again for ages. I've done it 3 times and never had an issue. You just have to keep going through the 'are you sure you want to cancel'. It was the same with Carpfix. I've never had a problem but seems like others have.
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In reply to Post #16
Just another bloke to add to the list of ****ers who are only in it for the money.
Dont give a **** about the fish the pastime or the customer, show me the money!!!
Magic Twigg
Cypography
Re Hooking fish
Who's next?
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This thread makes me think that someone should be contacting Trading Standards over their behaviour.
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In reply to Post #6
Surely that can't be right mate - did you get your money refunded.
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In reply to Post #13
They have 7 days free trial at the moment so there will be many people canceling their cards in the future.
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In reply to Post #11
I had the same issue with them a while ago even had messages saying it would be sorted but never was so had to go on my bank account and cancel the direct debit then it stopped
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In reply to Post #1
What a piss take - people unsubscribing and then having money still taken out of their account. Bang out of order.
Jump in your motor and drive to Burghfeld and front the bloke up for your money back.
Wouldnt subscribe to any of these con artists, enough free stuff on YouTube to get by.
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In reply to Post #10
I've unsubscribed and they are considering my request!
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In reply to Post #3
That's all I did and it worked fine
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In reply to Post #1
To cancel recurring card payments just report the card lost and order a new one. Your new card will be here within a week and all payments set up on the other card will bounce
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In reply to Post #7
It’s not a DD, it’s a recurring card payment, not as easy to cancel. Luckily i lost my debit card, so the card number changed and the payments bounced. That’s why they do it that way - there’s no rights like with a DD. Even the banks aren’t normally that helpful, the guys who managed to cancel it with the banks are lucky.
I’d emailed them numerous times, but it didnt stop them trying to take payment.
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In reply to Post #1
Just cancel your direct debit. I cancelled previously and this was the only thing that worked.
Rejoined not so long ago and thinking about cancelling again, sadly the content hasn’t been great recently.
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In reply to Post #3
Don't expect doing this to work. Twice I tried to cancel properly and they kept taking money. Just cancel it with your bank.
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Just cancel with the bank, there is no contract for the subscription.
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In reply to Post #2
I would have suggested cancelling DD
When they then contact you to say we haven’t taken the subs then let them know.
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In reply to Post #1
Did the website instructions not work?
https://www.cypography.co.uk/terms-and-conditions-membership
How do I cancel my subscription?
A: You can cancel your subscription by going to this page and completing the form, please allow up to ten working days for this to be completed, as per our terms and conditions.
cancel link here
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In reply to Post #1
Sounds like the same when I unsubscribed ages ago.
No real way of doing in on the website. I emailed them a few times and eventually it stopped.
Might be worth cancelling your direct debit, that will stop it
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I'm having a right job finding out how to unsubscribe from Cypogrqphy after just one month. Any ideas and can someone walk me through it. Typically, they aren't answering me email or messages.
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