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In reply to Post #36
Ivan, do you have the new AGE carp sounders, if so id like to hear your pro's and con's. On paper they look great, in the films they have put out, they look great but nothing beats real world use.
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Just changed my txi-d’s for some r4’s. I’ve been a delkim fanboy since 1997 and had both previous versions which were both faultless. Have the new txi-d’s and just never liked them from the word go. Watching the videos and the various videos about what buttons are needed to pressed to change this and that just made them overly complicated. Plus using a pod no matter what setting i put them on, if i get a run at night all 3 bloody led’s are lit up. Hoping having roller wheel will solve this.
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In reply to Post #42
Hi, its not that Atts are not waterproof, they are.
Atts have a slightly rubbery feel.
If put away into covers wet, the finish on them can go all motley (can be bad), mainly the backs.
Still work as normal thou, just don't look very good.
I enquired & they sent me some new backs.
I'm more bothered about Function, but can see why others won't like how they look, mottled etc.
Bob
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In reply to Post #43
Ive just sent my delrin nevs back, there not for me and so over priced for what they are. It didnt help that one was also faulty mind. Just bored of my txid now as had them ages so fancy a change so some bug eye ecu’s compacts are what im going to order after xmas.
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In reply to Post #41
I'm sorry if I offended, it certainly wasn't my intention...what I meant was if you like/are used to the simplicity of an atts/neville type of alarm then I can see the mither of setting up a delkim to not be appealing for the end result to be the same,a bite/run.
I've had atts,loved them,had steve neville and loved them and I will buy another set, possibly the delrin version after reading on here about them, at the moment I have the delkim txi-d and they're by far the most sensitive alarms I've used, too much of an overkill at times,quite possibly but they're spot on and I wrtainly don't get false indications unless the weather changes drastically during a session....again please accept my apologies if I offended you,it certainly wasn't my intention.
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In reply to Post #41
Folk sell tackle all the time for no reason that is the market there are plenty of threads on here about someone fancied a change from product y to product z
Back in the day I had optonics they were crap, daiwa sensitrons they were even worse, countless fox alarms all challenging, then delks for 20 years some Nash alarms as a backup set didn’t really ever use them so can’t comment and now the new delks.
I think there is still a lot to be said regarding user error, we are not perfect and as anglers some of us not very patient perhaps it’s a generation thing..
I notice on those ATTs you’ve bought there is an advisory about ensuring they are put away 100% dry (as although in the manual it says they are waterproof their is no IP rating) and after the 1 year warranty you are on your own.
I’ll stick with my over complicated delks with their 3 year guarantee & excellent customer service whilst waiting for one of these false bleeps to occur.
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Thanks for the personal digs, much appreciated.
I got the txi D's after I sold off nearly 10 year old set on fox ntxr's and thought that delkim would be great and they have fab customer support.
Ohhh how I was wrong.... Poor highly defensive support from delkim directly... I wonder why their so defensive when people ask for support... ....mmmm?
All I can say is that the subtle marketing and feverish fanboy backup for delkim alarms is great. Nuff said methinks and considering their the newest alarms from the top 2 manufacturers and so many are being sold off I'm sure you realise why.
My backup alarms ATM is a set of fox rx+ alarms that are amazing but currently I'm preferring the ATT's as a change, I swap from one set to the other as I fancy.
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In reply to Post #38
TXi D's totally faultless for me, never a problem, complicated ?
If you’ve managed to master a smartphone then I don’t really get that comment
I’m thinking user error. Perhaps you don’t going fishing enough ?
Lots on the secondhand market ? Same for most of their competitors
And as we all know with delks fantastic customer service should you need it.
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In reply to Post #38
I think if your the type of guy to use atts then txi-d wouldn't be for you. you must have had them set up wrong for the fishing situation/conditions. Once the beep speed is set to your liking its literally one dial,the response. what I would say is using the the delkim indicators and line clips compliment the set up perfectly. no lateral movement is essential..I have the response up as high as I can get away with in the weather conditions...very rarely get false bleeps
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I had a set of TXi D's and they were the worst alarms I've ever owned. I went direct and got advice from delkim to stop the constant false alarms caused by wind and rain drops and it didn't work, totally lost confidence in them after a fish moved a rig about 30 m with no indication. Massively over complicated controls and the receiver is always flashing even when you don't have a bite...
Sold them and upgraded to ATT crystal alarms that I still use today.
There's a reason why there's so many TXI D's on the s/h market.....
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In reply to Post #1
I've got 2x sets of TXIDs and a set of EVds - all have been bullet proof to date; and thats coming for a previous Fox RX Digital user of 20yrs+
Wouldn't entertain Gash and tbf I've never tried them but then again never would . . .irrespective of what anyone who has them says! For a start they look gash!
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In reply to Post #33
I paid 220€ for set 3+1(sale price) but their new alarm range (Age One) is usually under 400€.
Like I said before, 8 years on the bank in all weether conditions- +40C, storm rain, foggy weather, snowing and freezing temperatures below 0C...never felt sorry for buying them instead Fox,Delkim or Nash bite alarm
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In reply to Post #31
Hi, thanks for that excellent info.
Cheers Bob
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In reply to Post #29
Cheers. Do they come with little grommets to blank the hole when they are removed? I dont think i could ever bring myself to buy any item of nash tackle mind no matter how good they seem to be.
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In reply to Post #32
Carp sounder are very good alarms , I would say the best , they are not cheap , but they are designed and made in Germany.
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I have 2 sets of Carp Sounder bite alarms and they are simple but so reliable.
For me, drop back tone is not essential. On the first place is reliability in all weather conditions and battery consumption. In the last 8 years I did not have any problems with them and battery replacement is one 9V Duracell every 2,5-3 years .
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In reply to Post #30
I have the Gizmo2 and the SKS2.
I fish 2 syndicate waters one with flat swims where I use my pod and the other big lake has no swims so I use buzz bars and different length bank sticks, got fed up having to swap alarms from pod to bars so sold my RX+ and bought the 2 sets of Sonik.
Been impressed with both.
I would say the SKS2 are the best value of money.
There are some good videos of both on the Carpplogy channel
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In reply to Post #26
Hi, which Sonik Alarms ?
Cheers Bob
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In reply to Post #28
Yes you can remove the snag ears on the Nash r3 and r4 alarms
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Can you remove the snag ears on the nash alarms as i use solar p1 snag ears as i use solar titanium indicators.
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In reply to Post #24
Had a set for 18 months now have been spot on in all weathers and the receiver works at ranges you will never need, Better than any set of Delkims I have ever owned & the dropback feature is great.
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In reply to Post #25
Totally agree Leroy, I would never go back to an alarm without drop back differential.
I had delks then fox RX+ and really appreciated the drop back tone
You could instantly tell a liner without looking at the bobbin as you’d know it went up and down an inch back to where it started.
I now have Sonik Alarms and am actually impressed with them, the drop back tone and frequency is even better than the RX+ and the bivvy light is very good.
Now Sonik have sorted the gremlins and made improvements with the mk2 versions I reckon they are very good value for money.
Had mine out in some serious weather and they have not missed a beat.
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I would never use an alarm again that didn't have drop back differentiation.
Once the tones are imprinted in you head, you'll appreciate it on a cold windy dark night when you hear "beep boop" instead of "beep beep" and you instantly know what happened.
I fished with a friend a while back using delkims and I forgot what a pain they were. He had one of those roach bites, where the indicator jist sits and jumps up and down, but the alarm was screaming like a full blown run.
I know peolle love delkims, and I liked mine when I used to have them, but I would never go back. There's a reason you see less and less on the bank. They used to be the most common alarm I saw too.
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In reply to Post #22
I like the idea of a drop back differential, but its not essential. And im a delkim user, and dont feel like im missing out not having it. A few beeps ill always look at the indicator anyway. That will tell me far more than an alarm will
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In reply to Post #21
Say you in your bivvy. Your alarm has couple of beebs it stops. You probably think its a liner don't give it another thought. If it was a backdrop your line is now slack won't get more indication unless fish changes direction and you are non the wiser.
Now if that tone was different indicating a backdrop you know to strike or at least tighten your line to see if it goes slack again. Handy function to have different tones
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In reply to Post #20
Can someone explain the reason behind the different tone on the sirens for a drop back. In my head it would be obvious if you have had a drop bag as your Indicator will have hit the deck or am I missing something. Genuine question
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In reply to Post #19
I have the instructions saved on my phone as pdf files that I downloaded from delkim..only takes a couple seconds to refer to it.
That said, don't forget that the newer D's have all these options as extras on top of the older plus model, they don't have to be used.
Drop back difference..... Never have i ever reacted differently to a drop back than a forward take so to me, different tone is pointless
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In reply to Post #17
I’m not sure it’s that big a deal.
I assume you can operate a smartphone to do a quick search on YouTube which will remind you what button x and button y does to get function z on your delkim let’s be honest when on the bank we have so much free time
At the end of the day they all go bleep when a bit of line is past through them ..
Let’s not overly think it or try to justify choice.
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In reply to Post #17
Exactly like me with the Delkims. Especially when you don’t get out as much recently. I’ve forgotten what each button does after a month of not fishing. Fox ones I’m swaying to.
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In reply to Post #16
Been wondering about this myself. Had the txi-d’s since they came out and they’ve been fine, but i’m just not loving them. Having to look at the delkim app when i want to change something as i can’t remember what i need to do. Do like the look of the R4’s.
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In reply to Post #14
You are correct about the R4 mute facility. It is one of two features I don't like the other being the tone settings, you get 8,10 or whatever versions of a high tone, none at all resembling a nice low tone.
But apart from that they are brilliant, I have been using Nash alarms since the RS1 and I would not change from speed sensing to any other type of sensing, if the alarm sounds 99 times out of 100 it's a fish or line bite, both of which I want to know about. No false bleeps from wind or rain or weed..and the battery life is superb.
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In reply to Post #14
The Delkim you only have to press the left button once it mutes itself. Also unmutes itself in a certain amount of time in case you forget to unmute it yourself
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In reply to Post #13
If i look at the Nash R3+/R4 manual you have to press the button several times to go from mute to sound (there are 4 settings), with Fox it is simply a switch on/off.
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In reply to Post #11
I don't know about the R3+ or the R4, but the R3's just need a single push of the button to mute the alarm. I'd be surprised if they'd changed this feature on the newer alarms?
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In reply to Post #1
They sound better - the TXi's sound crap. Much prefer the older Delks for that 'warble' .
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In reply to Post #10
Yes for the bivvy light option .
R3+/R4, Delkim Txi-d and Fox Rx+ are all 4 very good, just buy the one that offers the most in terms of options you want.
Another point why I prefer Fox is the on/off switch, during a recast I always turn off my beepers so I not disturb others with beep sounds, Delkim, Nash has a push button that you have to hold for a few seconds to mute them, Fox is instant switch on/off
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In reply to Post #8
But would you exchange Delkims for the Fox RX+?
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In reply to Post #8
I guess it’s the false bleeps and the sensitivity setting that’s affected by climatic conditions. Also the drop back change of tone on the R4’s which the Delkim doesn’t have.
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A big plus with the Fox RX+ is the bivvy lamp in the reciever + the upcoming Security System, yes the other brands can also get a bivvy lamp like Smart indicator but the Fox one only gives light after 3 beeps.
If I had an R3+/R4 now, I would never exchange it for a Delkim, but I would also not exchange a Delkim for an R3+/R4
Also don't forget Delkim has no difference in sound for the dropback (if that's important to you).
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In reply to Post #5
I've got the txi's never had any issues with the alarms but the receiver has been back to delkim about 4 times. Very annoying so I'm changing my alarms and was going for the fox ones but a mate has the nash r4 and they are very good and cheaper than the fox.
If your delks are fine though why bother changing
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In reply to Post #1
Love the R4’s.
Wouldn’t pay full RRP but for features and use they are superb in the 6 months of heavy use I’ve given em.
Would recommend
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In reply to Post #4
So you’re saying it’s worth the changeover?
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In reply to Post #3
Buy quick change buzzbars instead of the extra bits and bobs you need for the delks that make them quick change
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In reply to Post #2
The delks allow you to quick release, do the Nash allow this? I like the drop back feature which the R3+ don’t have.
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In reply to Post #1
I've owned both (still using the R4s) and without doubt the Nash alarms are by far the best I have ever used. I had the old R3s before and these were excellent. Not sure the R4 is worth the extra money unless you are doing boat work or fishing rivers but i notice the price is coming down recently - I bought them as soon as they came out and they were expensive! I didn't like the Delks because they bleeped in heavy rain etc which was annoying and the R4s don't do this. They have a great range, good battery life, reliable and they also look good. Delks for me just have not changed over the years.
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Already got the Delkims, considering a swap to Nash. What are peoples thoughts are they better?
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