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jimimak
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jimimak
   Old Thread  #29 16 Nov 2023 at 9.19am  0  Login    Register
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I always take "the mother ship" bag with me, wherever I go - its an old aqua carryall that has just about every bit of end-tackle and bits I've ever bought and not used in an old Fox double f-box and other pouches, rig boards etc etc, and spare leaders I can no longer use on new waters hook links I've bought and ended up not liking them etc - I guess in some ways I'm a bit of a hoarder like that. But it goes with me on every session, and 99% of the time stays in the boot of the car - but there are the odd occasion Ive gone back to the car to get something I actually needed from the mother-ship.

My main bag I take with me is my aqua ruck bag, and in it I have a small bag that holds just the bits I use to make up my rigs 99% of the time. Im quite ruthless in demoting bits from this small bag to the mothership if it's not been used for a couple of months - that way I keep what I carry around to the minimum.

I now need to do the same with bait buckets and popups - whilst I've managed to tune the end-tackle I take I still l carry too many bait buckets and tubs of popups, wafters and glugged hard-hookers, glugs and other liquids and "magic potions" etc
Calabro
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   Old Thread  #28 15 Nov 2023 at 7.57pm  0  Login    Register
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Never pre-tie anymore. I can stack as many as I want, but once on the bank all hooks seem to have gone blunt (not sure if that's true), they're either too short or long for the circumstances and all putty is smeared all over my rig box. Freshly tied is the only way to go for me.
lilharbs
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lilharbs
   Old Thread  #27 10 Nov 2023 at 10.06pm  0  Login    Register
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How did the trip work out?
Flacky24
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Flacky24
   Old Thread  #26 10 Nov 2023 at 8.34pm  1  Login    Register
I really enjoy making my own rigs nothing to complicated I just enjoy the head space it gives me
Bait_buff
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Bait_buff
   Old Thread  #25 21 Aug 2023 at 4.53pm  0  Login    Register
I personally would make up a few of the rigs I'm confident in and take a little bag containing a few spools of different materials (coated braid, braid and fluorocarbon) a load of extra hooks, swivels and rig rings. when you look at the small amount of room this will take up its worth having it to give you options and peace of mind that you wont run out..
jhhilton1983
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jhhilton1983
   Old Thread  #24 21 Aug 2023 at 9.44am  0  Login    Register
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100% agree - Don't really do it now a days but i used to just sit watching TV with the Mrs tying rigs and knots just to practice them and get them as tidy as possible.

I occasionally still knock a few out when i cant get fishing due to work etc so that i can keep my head ticking over.

The only rigs i do pre tie is chod/SHR sections. I just make the hook and D section and then leave them about 6" long so i can crimp to size while im fishing
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #23 20 Aug 2023 at 7.47pm  0  Login    Register
One thing ive found having tied many rigs up over the last couple of weeks is practice makes perfect. If a knot isn't right, tear it apart and do it again. Rig length and tying knots gets better with practice. Using rig glue brings another series of learning curves. Size 6 Fox Curve Shanks are bloody sharp out of the packet. It's all good fun and better learnt at home than on the bank. I'll end up with 2 or 3 rigs I know will not let me down and when and where to use them.
mere--man
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mere--man
   Old Thread  #22 20 Aug 2023 at 2.26pm  0  Login    Register
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I sit and tie a seasons worth of rigs every spring for the season. Hate tying them on the bank it’s a waste of time I could have used looking.
Multi rig for pop ups, softer coated braid, helicopter leaders for fishing over softer bottoms.
Multi rig for bottom baits, stiffer hooklink, leadclip leaders for fishing over hard bottoms
Chods for everything else.
Also tie leaders ready to go for each rig so quiet often just cut the leaders off store them safely and have the same ‘boom’ sections so to speak on them untill they get damaged.

I really hate waste, and like everything to be as efficient as possible for my limited time I get in the bank and it’s made life easier that’s for sure. So I’d safely say it’s more than possible to do it for a few weeks worth of fishing.
Rai
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   Old Thread  #21 20 Aug 2023 at 1.26pm  2  Login    Register
I never tie rigs in advance just can’t be bothered and don’t feel the need to

Knotless knot and mono hooklink for bottom baits which takes seconds to tie and maybe a hinged stiff rig for pop ups if I’m feeling extravagant

I used to tie all sorts of rigs then realised we always used to catch on simple rigs so went back that way and haven’t caught any less fish.

I guess if you enjoy prep that’s fine but not necessarily necessary

Horses for courses though and good job we are all different or the world would be a very boring place!
AndyClark
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AndyClark
   Old Thread  #20 20 Aug 2023 at 9.51am  0  Login    Register
I use two rigs but what I'm fishing over dictates the hooklength material,

flouro d rig for bottom bait and wafters, that's my go to if the bottom is clean /silty whish alot of waters I fish are.

Ronnie rig for low lying pop ups, I only differ the hooklenth material if the weed/chid dictates....usually if its not too bad I use the Gemini booms, or if need something a bit more supple I'll use esp tungsten semi stiff.

in all cases I want my rig to reset and all the above hoklengths do that



frothey
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frothey
   Old Thread  #19 20 Aug 2023 at 9.45am  1  Login    Register
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Multitwig
Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #18 20 Aug 2023 at 9.42am  0  Login    Register
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oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #17 20 Aug 2023 at 9.40am  1  Login    Register
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I agree

90% of my fishing is done with the same super efficient blow back ring rig and the length of the hair is the main thing that I vary as it can make a big difference to the size of fish you are expecting to catch also of course the hook link length

it works anywhere so no need to change tried every rig you can think of too trust me
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #16 20 Aug 2023 at 9.30am  0  Login    Register
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Fixed that for you Joss…

i use two twigs.

Multirig.

Chod if i need too.
Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #15 20 Aug 2023 at 9.24am  2  Login    Register
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i used to use loads of different things, none of them really worked enough for me to say it was worth chopping and changing all the time, add to that, when chopping and changing rigs and bait all the time, couldnt get a true pattern of what was going on to gain accurate results and info.

So, i chose a bait, a simple effective rig on all 3 rods, sometimes 4 rods in France and sat on my hands and waited to get a true picture.

since then, ive never changed.

In truth, i think there's far too much stuff around these days that will only baffle ones brains and hamper results.

i use two rigs.

Multirig.

Chod if i need too.

mark1009
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   Old Thread  #14 19 Aug 2023 at 6.18pm  0  Login    Register
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You're fishing must be so easy, same rig, same bait, just cast it out. I wish I could get my head into that space. Maybe I will next trip. Unless I blank. Then it's doubts all round again. To be fair I don't blank very often. Unless all the swims are taken and I can't get on fish.
Frenzy
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Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #13 19 Aug 2023 at 5.46pm  0  Login    Register
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i rarely use anything but the multi rig, been doing so for the last 20 years
nickfisherman
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   Old Thread  #12 19 Aug 2023 at 4.50pm  0  Login    Register
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Yup. I never end up using the rigs I have ready.

Tbh most of the ones I have I either bought pre-made or I made early on in my rig-making days and they’re just not what I’d use today (99% of the time it’s going to be a stiff hinged rig with a tungsten bead). At some point I really should just take apart all my rigs that aren’t that for bits, and making up some fresh ones that I would actually use, but that seems like more hassle than it’s worth!

Leeroyjenkins
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Leeroyjenkins
   Old Thread  #11 19 Aug 2023 at 10.26am  0  Login    Register
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This.


I have over the years tried several times to pre tie rigs. And I just end up never using them. There's always some small tweak I decide I need to make, or want a fresh rig. Or, especially on a new lake, want something totally different.

All the components to make 10+ different rigs could fit into a Box a quarter of the size of the size of a box that would hold pre tied rigs.
oldgeezer
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oldgeezer
Mr Linky Poo
   Old Thread  #10 19 Aug 2023 at 10.15am  2  Login    Register
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the real truth is you could fit couple of packs hooks 20 swivels crimp pliers and crimps spool of boom spool of hook link and all the bits needed in to a very small bag/box
Neil_no_Fish
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   Old Thread  #9 19 Aug 2023 at 10.08am  0  Login    Register
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It is all I've used for the last 20 years f
. It works a treat m8
sundance
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sundance
   Old Thread  #8 19 Aug 2023 at 7.14am  0  Login    Register
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I will do that on my regular lake for a 24 hours but
A week. I'm taking the full tackle box and bit and bobs that I haven't used
For years too.

mark1009
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   Old Thread  #7 18 Aug 2023 at 11.54pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks for the link to that article. I'm sure I read it years ago but never gave the multi rig a go. I will try it now. Thanks.
Leonparadise89
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   Old Thread  #6 18 Aug 2023 at 11.38pm  0  Login    Register
I can fit everything terminal tackle wise into a small aqua pouch, rig tools lighter small 16 compartment Korda box for swivels beads etc, few different hook links and a couple spare spools of leadcore, so that comes everywhere with me, as for tying rigs il normally have 3 rigs ready to go and then tie up a few spares once everything is set up
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #5 18 Aug 2023 at 11.05pm  0  Login    Register
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Not just a pop up rig.

https://therigfactor.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/the-multi-rig-explained/
braders1978
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braders1978
   Old Thread  #4 18 Aug 2023 at 9.50pm  0  Login    Register
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I like the rig that Mike Holly showed on an ESP video,super easy to tie and can change the hook in seconds.The boom section lasts for ages too
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #3 18 Aug 2023 at 9.47pm  0  Login    Register
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Not used a multi rig and that eould require a leap of faith too far. I'll tie up a couple and use on one rod. I've always thought of the multi rig as a pop up rig, and I'm not expecting to use pop ups, unless I have to fish a choddy area.
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #2 18 Aug 2023 at 8.36pm  0  Login    Register
What about using the multi rig? Tie up 3 and just change the hooks or add/remove shot as required.
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #1 18 Aug 2023 at 8.29pm  0  Login    Register
I have my annual holiday fishing trip coming up and thought I would try to cut down the amount of gear I take by making rigs in advance and just taking the rig boxes and leaving the rest at home. I just feel I may need something I haven't made. How nany rigs is enough for a weeks fishing? Does anyone else have the feeling they need to take everything " just in case". ? How about a fortnight in France.
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