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do all the hooks have to align like reel handles? 
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In reply to Post #1
Never used them and never will. The hooks I use only cost me £1.99 a pack and have all been sharp enough for my liking.
Daz
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In reply to Post #51
I do personally. Any downtime watching tele or on the bank I'll sharpen hooks and use earring backs to protect them
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In reply to Post #50
Its not something you can do on the bank then?
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In reply to Post #49
I spent 10 years doing it myself. Absolute ball ache. When the JH ones came out it was a revelation. The time it took to do them was worth more to me than the few quid extra to buy them done.
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Surely if hand sharpened hooks is of such importance to people, they learn to do it themselves, rather than pay extra for someone else to do it. We spend enough time on the bank waiting around, theres plenty of time to do it, and just learn on old hooks.
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Surely if hand sharpened hooks is of such importance to people, they learn to do it themselves, rather than pay extra for someone else to do it. We spend enough time on the bank waiting around, theres plenty of time to do it, and just learn on old hooks.
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In reply to Post #43
Why I'm happy using the hooks I do. Every hook is checked and put into a foam sleeve in the packet. A lot cheaper than the big brands and as good if not better
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In reply to Post #44
I got a box deal one when I first ordered 
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In reply to Post #43
What JP does is give you a 'free' hook box if you buy 8 packets or more as well as offering numerous box deals throughout the year. For me those boxes are great as I only need the one box with multiple sizes and patterns. I find myself much more organised now than when I was carrying multiple packets, or boxes of hooks around with me. I do agree with you that I am also not a fan of the packets hooks traditionally come in
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In reply to Post #41
It seems pretty obvious the op is thinking of selling hand sharpened hooks and just wanted people's opinion on a few things.I think the j precision hooks are reasonable priced but would pay extra to have them in a box like ridgemonkey and korda kaptors used to be,helps protect the points
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In reply to Post #37
Wise words from Yonny , these people aren't worth it
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In reply to Post #39
Thats what happens every time on here, some expert ruins a thread ramming there opinion up everyones ass.
Embarrassing that grown men act like it really...
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In reply to Post #39
My syndicate has got quite hard this past 6 months and it's really quite interesting to see those who are still catching. I believe 2 fish in the past 6 weeks have been caught 1 by me and now another dude who also happens to use J Precision hand sharpened hooks has caught a 30lb ghosty this morning.
I do notice when the going gets tough these little edges all help. Fish are not moving so fast, so wont be using the force of the lead to drive the hook home.
Ps: make that a new lake record
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Has any of these posts helped the op out 
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In reply to Post #37
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In reply to Post #33
There is no point arguing with some people mate. Just give up 
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In reply to Post #34
I used to sharpen hooks, but now I don't bother.
I find with hooks which are PTFE coated, or chemically sharpened, you only have to take a tiny amount of metal off and you remove some of the hardened outer metal, and they rust and the points turn over much faster.
I generally just swap the whole hook or change the rig, if the hook loses sharpness. I mostly use either Muggas or Talon-tip wide-gapes.
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In reply to Post #34
Any little edge is a good edge. I'll continue with the so called fashion
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In reply to Post #33
And you made my point perfectly, that you are boring, and you don't have real life experience to back up your opinion, which is why it is worthless.
My original point (sic) was that if your hooks aren't sharp enough out of the packet, then find a brand that is, don't follow fashion, and that includes having to sharpen hooks.
I gave examples of hooks that are sharp enough out of the packet,
Gamakatsu, Solar 101's, Gardner Muggas, Drennan Super Specialist, even Kamasan B175's.
Now for more personal experience, so proving my point:
On Brackens I pinched a rig from my mate when I set up, He was using Korda Kurves.
After a few bleeps I had no further indication, so I gave it 10 minutes then reeled in to check the rig. Not liking the sharpness of a hook that he had freshly tied straight from the pack I retied a tig with my own Muggas. A few minutes later that recast rod went away with a 20lb mirror.
When I got home I checked the rest of the Kurves he had tied. I was able to lift a 3oz inline lead with the rig and hookpoint on the tip of my finger (photos are available), without the hook going in. I could not do that with Muggas, Gp204's or Kamasans, the instant pr ick, and pain meant I was not going to go any further.
So if your hook brand means you are sharpening hooks before you need to use them, then find a brand you don't need to.
Ask Terry Hearn, he doesn't sharpen his hooks 
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In reply to Post #29
Nice one Nick, you couldn't have reinforced my point (no pun intended) any better
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In reply to Post #29
I was sharpening partridge hooks with a carborundum pegley Davis hook sharpener in 1975. Those hooks needed sharpening. Many modern hooks are sharp enough to catch most fish. See Adam Pennings video for how to deal with the rest.
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In reply to Post #27
A hypodermic goes straight in, it doesn't have a bend to pull or tear against. It is not using a curve to pull you.
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Jeez,,, some of you lot would argue with a woman on how to use a tampon.
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In reply to Post #24
Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
It's known as passing on experience and backing it up with first-hand information.
I gave arguments why I don't sharpen hooks, but you decide to get rude, because you actually have no valid argument on your point.
The fad you are on about bores me like your posts, so you bore on at every opportunity, makes you and me
I never said sharpening hooks was modern, in fact I even gave reference to it, on Mustad 34021's.
That is the knowledge and experience I've passed on, because I can remember more than your 5minutes.
Also in that 5minutes, I have actually learnt through experience not just by rote, repetition of articles that are actually designed to sell fishing tackle.
A stronger hook is one that has not had material removed to make it thinner.
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In reply to Post #25
I use Jason's muggas and love them . For my type of fishing - a handful of fish a season , they are a no brainer . They seem quite robust in comparison to kamakuras - they work for me 👍
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In reply to Post #26
Agree , I'll ask the hospital next time to use a semi sharp needle for my Jabs Incase it tares. Never seen any damage from a hand sharpened hook bar the hole created by the hook initially.
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In reply to Post #24
Wheres the like button...
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In reply to Post #24
I've used Jamies hooks exclusively since he started up. I 100% think you convert more pickups to landed fish with a sharper hook. I also find his hooks stay sharper longer than the likes of fox and korda that used to blunt and turn over all the time. I often re-use a hook for several fish, sometimes just touching it up with a pillar file.
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In reply to Post #23
You really do come across as a painful know it all sometimes Nick.
Sharp enough for you might not be sharp enough for other people. Hook sharpening is not a modern fad, it's been going on for years and years.
All hooks cause mouth damage. They pierce the flesh and you pull the fish in by it's mouth. A properly sharpened hook does not cause any more damage than your blunt ones out of the pack. It could be argued that they penetrate easier and deeper and therefore give a better hold less likely to move.
I've used Gamas, super specialists, Kamasans, owners. Believe it or not you are not the only person on here that has been fishing for longer than 5 minutes. Most just don't feel the need to bore on about it at every opportunity.
Modern hooks are sharper and stronger, specially when you've run a file over them. For me a sharper hook converts more pick ups and a stronger hook lands more fish. It works for me and I'll carry on doing it.
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In reply to Post #18
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
They are as sharp as they need to be. A 'too sharp' a hook can also do more mouth damage, like a barbless hook, cut and slide.
Touching up a hook with the added chance of turning the point when fishing, means it's going to need changing more often. Another fashion or fad to get you to spend more money?
We are well past the days of needing to sharpen our Mustad 34021's just to have them sharp enough to fish with.
I've used Drennan and Kamasan hooks, B175's, Specimen and Super Specialists and never needed to sharpen them either, nor Owner FLB's, Gamakatsu GP204's or even any VMC hooks.
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In reply to Post #1
With respect to your original question , I have used JP hooks before and felt that the style they were sharpened in was so simple that its not worth paying for sharpened hooks, they seemed that they were just sharpened quite dramatically along the back of the hook on the reverse side of the barb if that makes sense . Im not saying anything about the quality of the product at all , not putting them down, merely stating that it was a simple filing along one plane. The hooks were sharper than an original version at a not too much higher price point per pack of 10 when compared to shop bought non sharpened hooks .
The muggas that i buy from time to time sharpened by Jason H from the shops are sharpened on 3 planes i believe which in my mind makes a sharper more pricise point, and the price reflects that.
I would think damaged hooks from either of those suppliers are very few percentage wise as they use the little caps on the points.
A nice little selling point might be using something that can be reused as a hook bead or similar.
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I use j precision hooks and tbh mate can't fault them at all, I won't use anything else now I love them been using them for a few years now and ill be honest at first was a bit put off by the price but then realised actually they ain't that and compared to others, use them with complete confidence now 👍
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In reply to Post #2
I also use Jason's hooks exclusively.
I do primarily fish a “10 -20 bites a season” water over here, and a tricky French commercial where I hope for 2 fish in a week
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In reply to Post #18
The ridgemonkey hooks are excellent and so is the packaging as stops them getting bashed around in the packet
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I used to sharpen my own, then when JH released his own range ready sharpened I moved to those. Just wish he did a wide gape with a straight point.
If I could get away with Kamakuras I would use them a lot more, but fishing weedy gravel pits they are one per cast and replace as they go over easy and can't really be touched up. There is nothing sharper though.
A friend suggested the new Ridgemonkey hooks and they are surprisingly excellent. Every medium curve shank in the pack was razor sharp so might give some other patterns a go. They also take a file touch up nicely.
If some people find that a standard mugga out of the pack is as sharp as can be then we have very different ideas on a sharp hook point.
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In reply to Post #16
Best of luck Dave
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In reply to Post #15
Exactly that Ian
I'm slowly (very very slowly) getting there but it's a labour of love when it comes to marketing/Web design etc.... quite literally like a fish out of water.
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In reply to Post #1
Hi Dave. A bit if market research I see?
Let me tell you mate, the samples you sent me were as good as any on the market and if you can keep that level of quality up, you'll sell loads if the price is right.
That thread me and Duggs did was put in the articles section but was lost when the site went down. Shame as it was full of good info.
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In reply to Post #13
In reply to Post #1
I expect my hooks to be sharp enough out of the packet.
"This"
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In reply to Post #1
I expect my hooks to be sharp enough out of the packet.
I use Gardner Muggas and Solar 101's most of the time, and not found a bad one. I do check every one before use, and they do last from session to session without needing to be changed.
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In reply to Post #9
I have been using J Precision for a number of years now and unlikely to use another brand. Very good quality hooks at a price that is comparable with the packets from the big brands
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In reply to Post #1
I sharpened my own for years but now use the Gardner muggas that are allegedly hand sharpened by JH. Not sure how true that is but they are superior to any alternative offering I've seen.
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In reply to Post #1
I don't use hand sharpened hooks ..if it's 'sticky out of the packet ,I'm more than happy ..
I check the point on every cast however,if the point needs a little buff up I got a gardner hook sharpener..
I do more than ok....I'm on my 6 th carp already this yr from a moderate water,plus a hit of silvers yesterday ...on a tenkara pole.. 
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In reply to Post #6
I use hand sharpened unless fishing a runs water for a bend in the rod. And I honestly can't fault J Precision. Used for a few years now and I honestly fish with proper confidence in those hooks
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In reply to Post #7
100% agree, pointless taking a hand sharpened hook to a commercial runs water because it will cost a fortune and potentially require a rig change every fish. Having said that looking at the prices of normal packet hooks it's not far off hand sharpened prices anyway.
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In reply to Post #6
I've used hand sharpened, but personally I like to do my own now. Found a brand that was really sharp out the pack but also took well to sharpening more when needed.
I won't use a hand sharpened hook on a runs lake for example, but will always use them when fishing for a few bites a year on certain lakes.
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In reply to Post #3
I have looked at that thread however I was looking to see how many people actually use hand sharpened hooks. The review was excellent but didn't give me an insight in to how many people want or use that product.
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In reply to Post #1
I get Jason Hayward to sharpen my hooks.
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In reply to Post #3
It was Yonny who provided that excellent thread.
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There is a comprehensive thread done in the past on this, one member carried out analysis on many sharpened hooks, I'm sure it's been made a sticky. If i could do links i would post a link, but this is beyond my capabilities.
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In reply to Post #1
I have used a few the Kamakuras are good and really consistent and well packaged but there super fragile. The best for me is Jason Hayward specialist sharpened hooks. Not the cheapest but the best I feel.
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Just a quick survey to see who out there is using hand sharpened hooks?. What company do people use, any issues with packaging/damaged hooks etc. What you would expect to pay for the product?
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