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In reply to Post #1
It will pass, when I came back to carp fishing I changed the way I fished and made each day an adventure, it's kept me keen and the mind active, also remembering how it all started and the sheer joy of just being there helps, many take it all far to seriously.
Been a ruff few years for many and easy to get dragged down by everything, hopefully it'll work out for you in the new year, all the best with it.
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In reply to Post #114
Couldn’t agree with you more.
I’m an all rounder who got seriously interested in carp 15 years ago - because I had an up and coming, big, low stock water 2 miles from my front door.
I gradually learnt how to catch them and then had 2 years fantastic fishing with fish to a lake record 43 lb. Unfortunately the last year was marred by other anglers actions - so I totally quit U.K. fishing for over a decade. l didn’t need the aggravation.
Just over 2 years ago I got the urge back -mostly through a mate who is a top barbel angler. He had taken a few years out too. Since then, I’ve had a great time catching very big barbel, perch and roach. I’m already revved up to catch a big tench next year. Happy days.
I’ve hardly carp fished during the past 2 years and I don’t miss it. I’ve still got 2 syndicate tickets with very big fish to catch IF I can rekindle my interest. Time will tell.
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In reply to Post #114
I only go Carp fishing nowadays, so yes, it's just that.
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Carp fishing has become a circus and these lockdowns have not helped.I love all types of fishing but as said taking my kids is my favourite at the moment.Float fishing with them on a small pool with not a carp angler in sight is awesome and we enjoy fishing off the rocks when on holiday too.Im in a really well run club and luckily idiots are not tolerated at all,so I'm lucky when I do decide to go for carp
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In reply to Post #113
Can't put my finger on why though, that's the strange thing.
Is that just Carp Fishing related or all aspects of the sport?
I ask because for the past few months it seems to be all the ones who just go Carp Fishing that's throwing in the towel, quoting various reasons.
The ones like me who do many forms of "Specialist" fishing are just as eager as ever to get on the banks
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In reply to Post #101
I last went in March of this year. Lovely day, overcast, perfect day for fishing. But after four hours I thought "what am I doing here" and packed up, came home, and haven't even looked at my gear since.
I was due to go to France for a week in May next year, but have had to cancel due to my work situation. Previous years I'd be spitting feathers, but I'm not even bothered this time.
I've not missed it at all.
I'll never sell my gear, but fishing is the furthest thing from my mind at the moment.
Can't put my finger on why though, that's the strange thing.
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In reply to Post #111
Sounds like your wife has the right idea  a win win for you all 
Thanks for your thoughts mate. I think it might be a 'timing' issue re the trip, I'm on 12 week reviews but my consultant reduced them to 8 for the last one as I had a 'blip' with cell counts (believe it or not probably attributable to Ibuprfen because of my ruddy knee).
French trips, no just me and the wife this time probably, I think the father in law will either not be around, or be too poorly to come. Long gone are the wifes tolerance of 'drive and survive', now it's a case of it either has a hot tub or YOUR not going
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In reply to Post #108
****. So sorry to hear this mate. Glad to see you're still fighting it though. If I were you, I'd still do the French trip. I'm sure if you're going with mates, they'll all help you out if you're struggling. Try to fill as much in as possible of what time you have left is what I say.
I've already told the wife and kids I want another trip to France in a year or so. I like the look of the place that the two young lads Carl and Alex on YouTube went where there's a small cottage on site that the wife can stay whilst I'm sleeping on the bank with the kids. 😁👍
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In reply to Post #109
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In reply to Post #107
Lol. My daughter had a perch over a pound when we last went. She loved it. I had to wait until I was 51 to catch a perch over a pound (thankfully it went 2lb 9oz on the same outing so my shame didn't last long). Even when we don't catch much my eldest wasn't upset. His reply when I apologised and explained that it's not always full of action was 'I don't mind dad, it's just nice being here, the scenery is beautiful, I could sit here all day and not get bored'. That response will sit with me forever. Just goes to show its not just about catching fish. They've all had decent sized fish too on the float but they haven't quite broken into double figures yet.
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In reply to Post #1
The last loss of 'the buzz', I got diagnosed with Cancer a few years ago, going fishing and having the time to myself I found it was all I thought about which destroyed the reason of getting away and not thinking about things/relaxing.....
I dropped my 2 syndi places not long after, simply no point, at the time I couldn't see a way forward fishing wise.
I kind of came to terms with it 3 years ago, went on days a fair few times in 19, last year only a few times and this year after 2 great sessions once it had warmed up my physical health dealt me a blow in the knee dept writing off going from June until now, I still can't kneel down properly and feel it if I do, so carp fishing is a 'no' at the mo . On the plus side I like all aspects of fishing so it won't stop me enjoying the hobby once I can get out.
I'm looking forward to the warmer weather next year, I've been told not to do things like getting cold since diagnosis....just as I'd bought new winter suits...typical, I might still sneak out though. My C is the very definition of 'chronic', but it's getting near to that time when treatment will be required so having something to look forward to can't be bad....not sure about my French trip next year though.
In the mean time there's nothing like buying fishing items (on-line) I don't probably need to keep the mind wondering in the right direction
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In reply to Post #106
I have found the same with my illness and kids,I guess we just take things for granted(especially eachother).The look on their faces when they catch fish of any size makes me so happy,my daughter loves tench.The first one she caught she was so happy and her saying I love these dad they have got teddy bear eyes will always stay with me.My stepson caught and amazing little mirror carp,it was white with golden scales and that is his favourite fish he's caught and its not his biggest either
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In reply to Post #105
Thanks for thekind words. So glad my kids love the fishing. If it hadn't been for them, I'd have never realised how much I've really missed it. Can't wait to get back out carp fishing aswell. I'm lucky that a place I used to fish is still very quiet as its one of these SSSI venues so the lack of clear swims and it being overgrown puts alot of the newer type of anglers off. I've shown the kids it when I've walked the dog and luckily they love how natural and peaceful it is.
Coming so close to popping my clogs has been the best thing ever to be honest. My bond with the kids is fabulous and because the kids are so into yhe fishing, the wife has basically given me free reign to go get new gear aslong as I fund it from selling my slot cars. Win win as far as I'm concerned. 😂👍
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In reply to Post #103
Hope you make a full recovery and make some amazing memories .I love taking my daughter and step son,I enjoy that more than the carp scene how it is at the moment
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In reply to Post #103
WOW.
Glad you are on the mend now.
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I stopped carp fishing about 15 years ago when the youngest was born but kept my gear in the hope of going again at some point (wife and I both work full time and with me doing shifts, we shared the childcare as no family living nearby to help out). I then had all my gear nicked (almost £10k worth) from my garage whilst on a night shift about 10 years ago. The wife wanted to spend the insurance money on finishing off the house so I just got some general course gear for float fishing mainly. I never really found time to go, with the kids and work taking up so much time so just accepted that fishing wasn't going to happen.
Caught covid back in early December 2020 and was rushed into hospital with two blood clots on my lungs and covid pneumonia on Christmas morning with my kids looking on it utter disbelief that there dad was going to die. After months off work with poor lungs and constantly out of breath, I'm now back on the mend. Been taking the kids float fishing and they absolutely love it.
I'm now in the process of selling a load of stuff from another hobby I do to get some new carp gear. The kids love the idea of nightfishing and can't wait to start a new adventure with me. We've even had the photos out, looking at what I was catching before they came along.
So my advice would be, don't panic, keep your gear, you'll get that buzz to go again. I've noticed how commercial carp fishing has become, which is quite sad to see. At the end of the day, fishing gives us all something different, but it should always be about what it gives each of us individually. To me it's about getting back out there and being amongst nature, trying to outsmart whatever quarry I'm after on a particular venue, enjoying the beautiful surroundings and now I've got the privilege of sharing it with the three most important mates in my life, my 16 year old son, my 14 year old daughter and my 8 year old boy. I simply can't wait.
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I lost the buzz when I split up with my ex.
Gradually the wont to fish came back and now I fish most weeks.
I do sometimes find 'carp fishing' boring, mostly because I spent some time fishing overstocked puddles. I'd much rather fish a big reservoir or unknown harder water than a commercial, and I do fish more now for other species, Chub, pike in the winter, or even back to tench and roach.
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In reply to Post #1
I lost interest in uk Carp fishing from 2011 to 2017.........kids growing up, work commitments etc but it came back in 2017 and have loved it since........
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In reply to Post #99
Im sure you are....and always will be.
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In reply to Post #98
For the last six years my Mrs has been meeting and chatting with my members.
She says she can tell that some are anglers, and some are people who go fishing.
She's absolutely right. Some of us almost don't have any choice but to go fishing,
regardless of weather, commitments etc. we find a way to angle.
She reckons that if I were snapped in half it would say 'angler' through me like a stick
of seaside rock. Hopefully it will always be so.
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Only felt like i cant be bothered a few times but a few days later i start feeling that urge again and off i go again... yeh family and work stuff makes it tough when you need to earn or your responsibilitys have to come first but that itch always had to be scratched so one night a week always scratched that itch. Now... semi retired...morgage paid and kids in their 20s its been time for me to play and its a hell of a lot easier to fish 3 days a week now... no more setting up in the dark...packing up in the dark to go to work...last 6 years have been bloody easy compared to those hard getting married..kids and work days...love it.
If your destined to fish all your life with the odd lull then its in you...if you give up this hobby then it probably wasnt for you in the begining...bit like golf many buy all the gear then give up...those who dont love golf for life.
There are quiet places out there... lower stock is often the key or god forbid it smaller carp or other species. There is without doubt something out there for everyone...my advice for what its worth is dont sit at home and sulk but instead go out and find it because that is part of the fun and satisfaction is gauranteed!
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In reply to Post #96
It’s such a personal hobby that the key to enjoying it is finding what makes you tick, not anyone else... I blew myself out a number of years back, had a couple of seasons or so where I didn’t fish at all, went off the rails and thoroughly enjoyed it... But it’s always there, in the background, waiting to bite... Biggest thing is not to sell your kit... 😉
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In reply to Post #95
Honestly mate keep it to yourself 👍🏻 In the nicest possible way
It’s a shame that fishing has grown so much , it always comes down to money
Everyone jumps down the throat of the guy who suggests making a profit isn’t everything
Before long we will be paying by the amount of fish currently in the swim via some computer
Overstocked waters create a good income
But I hate to see fish battered week in week out
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Losing the buzz? Sounds depressing. If you’re not happy, stop fishing crappy rat race venues, full of idiots and crap carp! Every single fish below, and 100’s more like them were caught from free areas, open to absolutely anyone. It’s out there… You just need to get up off your ass and go find it. If you want to fish in the rat race… Don’t be shocked when ‘you lose the buzz’.
When I get home from holiday next week, I’m going on a mission to show you all the greatest carp swimming in the UK. Can’t say no more, or I’ll get sheeped up again. It’s all out there if you can be bothered to look hard enough… And you’d never ‘lose the buzz’.
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In reply to Post #93
 Same cycle every time. One poster wades in trying to look in the know and old school. Gets called out for misinformation and b*llsh*tting. Cries about the thread going off track (after leading it there). Exits thread in a flounce, and the thread carries on just fine without them.
Back on track.. I’ve always found the best cure for carp burn out is to dabble in another species or two. Particularly effective in winter, and easy to justify a new rod or reel for Christmas.
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It's a real shame that threads end up decending into personal attacks which eventually get deleted.
I'm out. Enjoy.
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In reply to Post #90
Fantastic
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In reply to Post #90
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In reply to Post #87
At what stage in this arduous pursuit of nameless leviathans over the hostile terrain of lesser trodden pathways and through the mental anguish of meritorious waters do you send the rigs out by gps
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In reply to Post #87
500 in the lake, not an acre. For what it’s worth, we’re going to hire the island on Wraysbury 1, five swims and a canopy for a social, tonnes of water and nice fish to go after, they’re literally catering for everyone with their portfolio.
At the end of the day, everyone has the choice of what they fish.
If i didn’t have a business, partner and social life, I’d join RK in a heartbeat. You get a lot of water/tickets for the money in all reality, yes Horton Church and Kingsmead 1 are busy but the rest aren’t. They haven’t stuck hundreds of RH fish in or horrible croation bloaters on, they’re growing their own fish from Fry, they’ve fenced their waters and stopped them becoming runways… I genuinely can’t see your grievance, there’s waters for everyone all over the south.
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In reply to Post #85
I think I'd take Andy's information, a guy who runs his own water in the area, over a anonymous keyboard warrior who gets his info from Google.
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In reply to Post #84
Meh.
1 fish a acre would have been more than enough, 500?
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In reply to Post #81
I was comparing what Wraysbury was to what LV waters are and have been.
Yup, the North .Met is hell on earth, not my flavour.
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In reply to Post #80
Lea Valley parks is a weird one. It's part funded by council tax, to what part I really have no idea.
Faba, ha, you don't know much about it clearly.
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In reply to Post #79
Just because they’ve got big fish in, doesn’t mean they’re mugs waters
Agree. There's ~500 carp in W1 so ~11 an acre. While I would consider this a very, very "healthy" stock indeed it's not exactly Linear where the waters hold 4 times that and are a fraction of the size. I'd certainly not call it "insane stocks of fish" as quoted on this thread. Very, very well stocked yes, insane no.
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In reply to Post #79
But you’re singling out wraysbury 1
Because one of the posters brought it up.
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In reply to Post #78
W2 is the exact lake that you are describing, financially supported by the 'noddy lake' next door. Huge, largely unknown low stock, wild swims and no facilities. The only difference is it has a fence to try and keep the neighbours from nicking your boat and fish.
But of course, you would know that, having fished it.
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In reply to Post #72
If you could point me in the direction of a coherent point regarding LV vs RK I would be happy to.
How they are a 'like for like' comparison for I'm not sure. The LV waters are part of thousands of acres of land managed by a taxpayer funded Authority.
Are you suggesting that the LVA has done a better job at managing their waters than RK because they have kept ticket prices low?
Have you walked around Bowyers or the NM recently? More labradoodles and electric scooters than anglers. The ticket prices are low because the angling is a minor detail in the bigger open access park picture. The amount they bring in on tickets will be peanuts compared to the taxpayer funding.
Given the choice I would rather pay 3 x the ticket to a rich man from Mayfair and keep the public/poachers/vandals/thieves/doggers out/ (Maybe not the doggers).
You also know the lakes will still be there in 2/3 years time, unfortunately more than you can say for LV at the minute.
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In reply to Post #78
The thing is there simply aren't enough anglers out there that want to fish large, low stocked venues, and importantly, are willing to pay what it would take to make it viable.
Lea Valley Parks Fisheries, the name tells you instantly why they're very different from the old Cemex portfolio, they're publicly owned. In the past these sort of places didn't need to be self funding or profit making, that is all changing now. It's why country parks where you might take your dog for a walk now have parking charges.
The only LV water I know anything much about is Glenn Faba. 65 acres with a decent head of fish going well into the 40lb+ bracket, and bloody cheap IMO. You'd think it would be nigh on impossible to get a ticket wouldn't you? Nope. A quick phone call, letter sent and a ticket offered for the next season. Very high turnover of members, because most new members soon realise that they don't really want to fish a reasonably hard water.
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In reply to Post #78
But you’re singling out wraysbury 1, wraysbury 2 is low stock, so is kingsmead island and crayfish pool.
Horton and k1 has always had lots of big fish in it, wraysbury 1 has been stocked but where else do you have 45 acres with loads of space and lots of lovely fish. That ticket they’ve put together has absolutely everything someone could want, you could spend a lifetime fishing their portfolio no matter what you want. That’s what they aimed to do and they’ve done it. Just because they’ve got big fish in, doesn’t mean they’re mugs waters.
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In reply to Post #77
Certainly. Don't get me wrong, I'm not pie eyed looking through rose tinted glasses however my posts my come across. I won't disagree that what RK have done in respect of fencing isn't a good thing and definitely the money has to come from somewhere. All of that aside, the trend now is to fill a place full of fish and anglers whereas where I'm coming from maybe this could be done in a different way, essentially low stock, big fish and still gain profit from that.
I don't know anything about Yately as I never fished it or have anything to do with it. I'll take a look when I get the chance 👍
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In reply to Post #76
Unfortunately, there’s very few people who are in the position to do what you’re suggesting though, dump x amount of millions on a fishery to let people fish it for the love of the sport, it’s all very romantic but not realistic or sustainable. If I had a million quid just laying around, I sure as hell wouldn’t be buying a fishery, I’d leverage the cash as a deposit and built a block of flats…
What we should be applauding is the fact that given the prime locations of some of the complexes recently sold (Cemex portfolio and Yateley west), the fact they’re still able to be fished and not another runway or country park is admirable.
Touching on yateley west bought by Martin Gardner, what a fantastic job he has done.
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In reply to Post #75
Stop being pedantic. You know what I mean.
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In reply to Post #73
RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking
Google "business model" TeeCee.
The term literally refers to a company's plan for making a profit.
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In reply to Post #68
Thanks Toronto, appreciate the post 👍
It's all a long time ago and I'd be just guessing, when did Mary die, must have been quite some years before Cemex sold up? Could it have been that blokes had moved onto the likes of Sonning and elsewhere as there were a fair few fish that attracted blokes hunting records.
As for Wraysbury No:2, I thought they put a load of fish in that one recently? I did think of fishing it again but was put off, part of which was the planes as it wasn't that nice when I last fished it.
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In reply to Post #71
Say what?
So I punt out an arbitrary figure and all of a sudden I've got no idea how businesses work, another one that needs to behave themselves.
So people don't just buy things for the sakes of buying things and are happy to have a *long-term* strategy of recouping their initial investment? RK Fisheries business model is their business model and can do as they please, this isn't the only business model that is adopted throughout businesses generally speaking, and before you go 'yesh but if you're not after getting max profit and recouping your investment immediately companies fail' or some such blah, not the case at all.
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In reply to Post #69
Who knows the exact reasons as to why LV fisheries have tendered out their waters, I do know that a component part was down to the policing of it during Covid. All that aside, you never even attempted to address my points of RK waters vs LV waters.
What are you on about with me trawling old Cemex posts, you're just making stuff up. Not even looked at one old Cemex post. Behave yourself.
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In reply to Post #67
You have absolutely no idea how business works, do you think someone is spending a million quid of their own money and not looking to recoup it and gain profit from it ASAP? If you threw a million at something, you’d want it back ASAP too. Whether you like it or not, wraysbury, silverwings and Blenheim were destined for landfill at one stage, they’re still lakes and people are enjoying them.
That gold card is an incredible ticket now, yes it’s expensive and a lot of people can’t afford it but most people think nothing of spending £2k on a holiday once a year, the guys that can use the ticket, it’s not bad value for what’s on offer.
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I haven’t lost the buzz since 96.
I also enjoy fishing
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In reply to Post #67
And look at what is happening with the LV waters now…
Funny how every time you get up on your high horse with your lectures about how things used to be, you get called out. Contradicted by somebody who has genuine knowledge rather than that of a keyboard warrior trawling old cemex forum posts through google.
Might be best to stick to the bait boat aerial threads. About which, admittedly, you do appear to be well informed.
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In reply to Post #65
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK
I've got to correct myself in respect of Cemex selling it's UK house building. I mistook Centex with Cemex, my mistake.
Take Lea Valley fisheries for example as it's a very similar like for like example. Lea Valley sustained their waters for years and years charging a very nominal fee. The only differences between the two is that other users other than anglers shared the facilities on some of their waters and Lea Valley waters were never fenced off.
Maybe you could argue that the fishes side of Lea Valley didn't keep the whole thing afloat. If the Lea Valley had never bothered to upkeep their waters, never put jetties etc in, I'm sure they would still have bought in a profit from angling.
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In reply to Post #64
Exactly right Ian. Romance doesn't cover the costs.
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In reply to Post #61
Cemex didn't pull out of the UK.
I'm starting to think you can't be taken seriously in this conversation as you clearly don't know anything about the running and financing of fisheries or have a realistic expectation of what they need to do to work.
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In reply to Post #63
50k return? Lol. What about the cost of the fencing they put up around the whole complex? Let's face it, it needed it for the car crime as well as the otters. Another few hundred k I bet. It simply wasn't feasible to purchase it and leave it as it was.
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In reply to Post #62
Who told you they were selling 8 tickets a year, I couldn't even get on the waiting list when I tried.
50 tickets a year, a grand a piece = 50k return on just one of the waters, that being Wraysbury. Was it a million or something the buy all of them, maybe I'm well out on that figure. All the same, *they* are welcome to it.
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In reply to Post #61
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp
And who in their right mind would have spent the fortune it cost to buy it and left it as it was selling 8 tickets a year? This was just never going to happen.
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In reply to Post #60
Cemex at the time pulled out of the U.K across the board, from new build sites (very profitable) all the way through to the likes of Wraysbury. They (Cemex) just dumped the stuff that wasn't making them maximum profit. Like I was saying, couldn't have cost anything to sell a bunch of tickets for a hole in the ground full of water with practically zero investment?
"Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes".
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp so any fool can claim they've caught a fish out of what was before this recent lot got hold of it a place where you had to be on your game to even get a sniff at a chance of one of its 20 or so inhabitants? Isn't that the modern day carper for you all over?
The whole buzz of fishing somewhere like Wraysbury back in the day was it's sheer size and ultra low stock, the difficulty aspect, all of which has been taken away and essentially ruined. What was once an iconic water has now been turned into a mince grinder whereby your 'modern carp angler'™ after reading books on days of yore whilst treading those banks with illusionary thoughts are fooling themselves.... Wraysbury is dead, long gone, now just a pale imitation of what it once was.
On a positive note and as I've mentioned in previous threads in regards to the likes of Wraysbury (my sides) and similar waters with insane stocks of fish, at least it keeps *that* type of angler well away from the sorts of places where I fish. To borrow I term I totally detest 'happy days'.
Inb4 "you're just old and bitter" no, no I'm not, just realistic on the state of modernity.
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In reply to Post #59
When Hall Aggregates/RMC had finished quarrying the pits they got huge payments from the government if they were turned into leisure venues. These payments had stopped by the time Cemex had bought the business and it was decided that Cemex Angling didn't generate enough revenue across the portfolio, hence the big sell off.
Personally I think what has been done at Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes.
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In reply to Post #57
Mate, like they are today, just holes in the ground. The investment comes when you wanna put barked swims in, jetties, fence the whole place off, add more fish. Back in the day none of this applies, so where was the money needed for investment of zero? Cemex owned them outright, they didn't have to pay anyone other than the guys running the fisheries. Like I was suggesting, the Wraysbury thing doesn't work.
Basically the complex is a cotch up of as much money as possible. Sure, its all fancy and that and people fishing a fake plastic version of what once was.
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In reply to Post #55
It was only a little club water,it hardly got fished due to the walk and people not realising what was in it.As soon as pictures were posted it slowly got busier and busier.I don't get why people have to post pics of everything they catch on social media
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In reply to Post #56
That's exactly why Wraysbury is a good example of what I was saying.
Wraysbury had no investment and very few tickets were sold = unsustainable.
Horton had investment and every ticket was sold = sustainable
Wraysbury has now had loads of investment and it can't be run as a quiet water with just a few anglers enjoying it.
One way or another all waters belong to someone or a business and in most cases just selling a few tickets is unsustainable.
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In reply to Post #55
I'm not sure if Wraysbury is that great an example. I didn't fish No:1 although I fished No:2 before the takeover. I never saw any investment in either two of those waters when Cemex owned it and Leisure Sport before that.
Horton (clownworld) was the only one at the time that ever saw any real investment, which they charged a kings ransom for the privilege and being the progenitor of the modern carp scene.
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In reply to Post #53
The thing is all anglers love a quiet water and want them to stay that way. Unfortunately in most cases that is simply unsustainable due to leases needing to be covered, loans repaying or a return on investment required. Wraysbury was a prime example.
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Happens to all or most of us at least once in a while. Dont worry about it and keep hold of your gear. Maybe try a bit of perch fishing or whatever now the colder weather is here.Much easier to get motivated with one rod, a small net and a bag of soft plastic lures. You stay warmer too moving around.
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In reply to Post #48
There was nothing massive in the one I was on,just having the place to yourself most weekends made it worth it.I said to my mate it would get ruined by Facebook page and unfortunately it turned out to be right
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In reply to Post #50
Really?
Got a famous history water that should come up next year. Should be good bouncing between the two. Just got to put up with the M25 to get there 🥺
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In reply to Post #49
We know, TeeCee. You mention it every other day
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In reply to Post #47
The place I'm fishing has a mostly unknown stock with a few known oldies knocking about. There was a load of fish in it at one point in time, now it's not the case and the place is empty.
It's over 100 acres and most weekends from the end of the last lockdown, there was 4 on at the weekends including myself, sometimes it was me and one other. The fishing is very tough going with little to show for the time that I've spent there, all the same, I can say with my hand on my heart it's been some of the very best fishing I've experienced, truly wonderful. The surroundings are glorious, couldn't wish for better. So glad I got this ticket and I'm in no hurry to drop it. There are gems out there, just a case of finding them 👍
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In reply to Post #42
It's a kick in the nuts eh?
My place was blinding. Great stock, big pit and only ever a few blokes about. The biggest one turned 50lb and then the goons rocked up after the word got out because some numbskull couldn't keep his mouth shut after he had it.
I did say to them you want to keep this all to yourselves as the place will turn into a circus. The imminent Facebook posts went up, waiting list was as long as your arm with a full.syndicste where they struggled to sell 20 or so tickets most season when there was 50 up for grabs on a 100 acre pit, I pulled off quite quickly after that and left them to it. A real shame in all honesty.
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In reply to Post #46
Watched a bit of Kevin nash podcast , he talks about losing the desire
And taking up fishery management
He explained about being stuck down one end when the fish were down the other
, time bandits , the unemployed , everything that stood in his way to enjoying himself I guess .
He comes across badly in my view , considering what he’s gained from the hobby
When us Old boys talk of having a better time in the past , and we did
It always comes across to the younger anglers badly
For me it was about fishing for the unknown sometimes mythical monster
that probably didn’t exist anyway, probably ended up in a pond elsewhere lol
Going back to the original post, find somewhere quiet , don’t worry about catching the biggest , catch what’s
In front of you and the buzz does return 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #45
Dont see a lake at the moment that would appeal to me... Everything turning into Disneyland and circus... majority of my fishing is now done for social aspect that is why I decided to do some fishing for other species combined with hiking/traveling and visiting places not normally associated with fishing.
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In reply to Post #1
My commitment & desire has waned over the last few years, mainly due to having to concentrate and progress in my career which at the time was what i wanted to prioritise.
However since the beginning of last year i started to realise the work life balance was too tilted and the sheer amount of plate spinning to get a weekend free to go fishing was becoming too much. As such i scaled my my fishing to odd nights and days session and have worked on changing my work situation to give me a better balance. Shortly i will move back on to continental shifts have 4 days off at a time - if im off at weekends it will be with the Mrs and if im off in the week it will be fishing.
As said it will always be there for you, some times you have to take a long term approach to get the buzz back.
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In reply to Post #38
So true , with u all the way brother, I'm on a 350 acre venue, when the **** hits the fan ill go 
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In reply to Post #1
Think everybody goes through a phase of “What am I going for?”
There’s a hell of a lot more to fishing than just doing one miniscule part of it, the past couple of years I’ve matched my fishing to the time of year and the weather conditions, and go fishing for a species that’s the viable option on that day.
I threw in the “Vintage tackle” option as well, now you’re talking proper fun! Only problem is it appears loads of others have been thinking just the same, as the price of vintage gear is going through the roof of late!
But I guarantee you will soon get the buzz back
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In reply to Post #38
Exactly the same happened,had a lovely place with hardly anybody else ever on.Then a Facebook page got made by someone,now it's ruined.Two of my mates were bailiffs and they jacked it in as they were getting calls all the time about all sorts of goings on,such a shame as it was so peaceful and scenic
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In reply to Post #39
The last paragraph didn't really matter and I double posted coz I'm special 🤯
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A few times over the years I've lost my hunger to get out carp fishing, but just change tack and get myself to the river to catch some chub or trot a float through for the roach and dace.
I've never once lost the love and want for angling.
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In reply to Post #38
You are a strange bloke....why delete post 36 and repost the same at 38...
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In reply to Post #21
100% this.
A place I was fishing was being kept quite and had been since before I set foot on it...just a punt on my part I ended up getting a ticket. All of the blokes on the place were anti social media as they knew what came with it...the hordes of morons, names and big tackle companies.etc.
It didn't take long before the wrong crowd turned up. In the last few years I had my ticket, I could see the decline, the selfishness and win at all costs attitude just to catch the biggest prize in the pit. Had quite a few newbs who couldn't even get their head around why I wasn't bothered either way of catching the largest in the place..they just couldn't even get it in their heads that it's not just about the fish, it's about the whole package for me.
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What I sometimes find is the excitement and build up to going fishing is the "buzz" getting everything ready, tying some new rigs, planning this and that, buying a few bits, watching a few you tube videos etc.....I cannot wait to get to the bank.....then after setting up and casting out I sit back......and sometimes its all just a bit of an anti-climax!
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In reply to Post #1
Plenty of times. Sold my gear plenty of times too, whether it be for financial reasons or just getting sick of it.
Part of the buzz of getting back into it was buying stuff that suited the campaign I was embarking on. Plus, you know what works, and what to avoid buying in the future if it doesn't sort your fishing or if it was just complete garbage in the first place.
I'd say the vast majority of my gear now is second hand, with a lot of it being over 10+ years old. My thinking is, if it's already lasted 10 years, chances are with a bit of TLC it will last another 10.
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In reply to Post #1
Another one with twins here, infact I had three under 2 and my fishing went on the back burner for a good 8 years and during that time I lost the buzz completely, forgot how to make a rig even. But I never sold my gear because I knew what it meant to me. Your life changes and you have to put your priorities in order of what matters most and your family will always come first, don't ever feel bad about that.
My twin boys are now 14 and my daughter has just turned 16 and next year will be the first time as a single dad that I will probably allow myself to do a 48 hour session whilst leaving them alone in the house. It's tough mate but when you are ready just go and take your rods and you'll love it again. You might lose your interest in fishing because of other important things going on but fishing will find you again.
It's one of those things so special to us that we never forget it, time alone away from everything just to get your head straight. You'll find your passion for it again 100%.
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In reply to Post #1
I was in a similar position a long time ago, 4 young kids, lots going on, lost touch with the fishing buddies (letting them down) and it just stopped, even a sense of guilt thinking of going fishing, did not even notice the loss of interest, just stopped and the tackle went in the attic. I did take the young kids course fishing when they were in there teens but they rather be on there PCs/gameboy’s.
About 25 years later, kids grown up, during the first lockdown went camping at a place called Wyreside fisheries just for a break and walking the dog in the morning it was OMG, it was like a lightning bolt seeing these guys with all these new ideas and methods and when I got home went straight to the attic, all the gear that hadn't been eaten by mice was outdated. The bug had returned and I cannot explain the thrill I have again at sitting at the bank whether catching or not.
On reflection I should have sold all gear that’s worth something to spoil the wife, its worth nothing as mouse food and has advanced /will have moved on, so bought new anyway.
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Don’t worry about it . I fished hard for 12 years and loved every minute of it . Last year we had a baby and the brakes went of immediately. Since then iv only done a couple of sessions alone and and social trips as my main trips . Iv loved the freedom from not constantly worrying about getting to a lake or who’s going to catch what . The social trips iv had have also been brilliant . I didn’t used to do many as I was too wrapped up in my main fishing . Keep your gear and get out when you get the chance or when the urge gets you . It’s only fishing after all
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I too have a young family mrs and 4 kids. Occasionally I’ve lost the buzz but still push myself to keep going and work through it. It soon returns. I only do overnighters as weekends are spent with the kids. They aren’t interested in fishing but hey ho at least I get to spend Sunday driving round the country for rugby The kids won’t remember a dad that’s never there and I couldn’t look at myself knowing I’ve swapped fishing for there childhood. I still go fishing most weeks overnight. Enjoy the piece and quiet 
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I'm fortunate as just being out in the fresh air is enough for me,but I have to be doing something..
I got into wildcamping,it's kind of fishing without rods,when I don't want to carp fish I do a bit of that,however,angling is part of me now I guess,so I'm happy just float fishing using trad gear..,
I have said numerous times when I am 60,I shall pack in carpingI and just go general course fishing .which I love ,however,I have no idea why my family don't believe me when I say about reaching 60...we shall see...lol..
(I too have noticed a lot of people packing up,lockdown puppies syndrome came to mind)...
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14 years ago I stopped fishing. Moved to another part of the country that didn’t really have much in the way of lakes, ponds and rivers coarse based but always reminisced when near a waterway.
A work colleague got me started on sea lure fishing mid lock down which found me rummaging in the loft and going to a local lake for some spinning.
Next thing I knew I had bought a 1.75 tc rod with intentions of just the one for tench and big bream and vowing not to get behind buzzers again.
That didn’t last long! A couple of local lakes sourced with a good runs water and now circa £1000 down on new kit and a campaign planned.
I don’t think fishing ever leaves you If it’s in your make up.
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In reply to Post #1
Happens to us all - totally normal.
Try some different types of fishing . . .its not all about carping. Learn something new and you'll come back refreshed . . .
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In reply to Post #1
My buzz comes and goes but I have never really lost it. I don't think that you can force it. Fishing for other species is good advice. Or you could just take a walk by a lake or river without any gear. Just soak in the atmosphere. When I walk my dogs by one of my waters I often get the buzz just by being there.
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In reply to Post #1
If you cant be bothered then don't bother mate. There are 2 possible outcomes.
1 - you get the bug back and go.
2 - you don't.
You win either way
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When I’m blanking I’m mad keen, when I get amongst them I find that I’m really not that fussed.
Suppose I enjoy the chase. 😁
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In reply to Post #22
yes change is as good as rest if you feel like it, we all have spells of non angling, When there old enough thay can carry your kit, no seriously go with the flow, if you push the fishing thing your only end up hating it, all the best.
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Yup
haven’t been since we were allowed to at the lend of lockdown 406
That’s a lie
I took my dad for a rising tide session on the beach July or august
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In reply to Post #1
Try fishing for something different. Theres definitely more to life than just carp fishing 👍
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In reply to Post #20
Luckily there are still quiet waters,it's when they get ruined by idiots putting them all over social media.
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In reply to Post #15
I think a lot of people are losing the buzz for carp fishing, it's a circus and rammed everywhere
I can relate to that. I can still find a bit of piece and quite and where I want to fish, otherwise if it was packed everywhere, forget it 
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Mind wants to go but the body just isn’t up to an 80 yard walk to the car each journey as I live down a walkway.
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I only fish quiet waters now for carp. The circus and the modern scene is horrendous and not somewhere I would want to be.
If anyone says “buzzing”, “mega” or the like that’s not the place for me
Spend most of my time now on the river chasing roach, chub or perch depending on the conditions. Much more peaceful
I’ve been fishing for over 40 years, carp fishing for 35 of them so nice to mix things up a bit.
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i have noticed a massive difference over my short 6 years carping.
the fact that most ''carpers'' these days wouldnt know how to shot a float makes my blood boil.......
gotta say im still 5 months away from my 2 being born. but i cannot wait to take them fishing and just be outside in the fresh air with them. growing up the way i did!
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Seeing a lot of people saying the same just recently, not sure if there is a common link or anything but there certainly appears to be a lot of disillusionment with the Carp scene around at the moment.
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I think alot of people are losing the buzz for carp fishing,it's a circus and rammed everywhere.I have enjoyed taking my kids float fishing the last couple of years.I have got some quiet waters for my carping,I will go when I'm up for it
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I too dropped my tickets for a couple of very nice, small syndicates when the kids came along; it didn't feel right being there whilst they were growing up at home.
I've fished on and off for more than 30 years, and so never really considered selling up; though I did sell a few things such as overnight gear since it appeals less and less as I get older.
Days only, and happy for it - I've done more fishing in the last few months than I have done in years.
It's not just you!
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In reply to Post #1
I also lost carp fishing for 9 years, after moving to the USA.
Had been carping for over 30 years, and could not find anything here to replicate what I left behind (don’t ask why I came🤔 .
But by chance I was put in touch with a couple of carp anglers here who had actually found a lake with twenties in it, and off we went again, all new gear, new challenges, and I’m still mad for the mystery of it at 71.
We sometimes stop carp fishing for our own reasons, but it never goes away, just hides a bit.
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In reply to Post #1
I knocked fishing on the head for about 8 years, I had a great ticket, fishing with great people, had a lot of fishing friends and did ok, then over a few months just totally lost the buzz.
Other than one set of cheap rods and reels, I sold up and ignored invites onto one or two really decent waters.
This year I was made redundant and was going crazy job hunting and stuck in the house, so I got a little bait and went down my local day ticket with what I had and have been building up my gear since then.
I'm nowhere near as obsessed as I was, and I can take it or leave it, but I'm glad I rediscovered fishing just for the headpace it gives me. I've totally lost the ability to catch fish though 😂.
All I can say is don't force it, if you are happy not fishing then do the other thing that will make you happier, or just concentrate on what's important now. Then when the time's right the buzz might come back.
For me now, all I'd like to find is a decent water that I can drift onto on my terms, not just because I feel like I've got to be there but to reconnect with that part of the fishing world, but this is proving to be much tougher than I thought it would be with no waiting lists and only being recommended by current members
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In reply to Post #10
You can send them pics of your two new p.bs when they arrive
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thanks Everyone, making me feel alot better about my current situation.
got good friend and my brother who are still keen, been just as nice getting stories and photos of their successes.
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In reply to Post #3
Enjoy watching the kids grow up and making memories, fishing will always be there time passes by all too quickly when they're young.
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50 years fishing man and boy. I lost a good mate nearly two years ago that I used to fish with and my mojo went. I ended up selling my gear and two months later found myself on furlough crawling walls floors and ceilings. Ended up buying it all back but still not getting the buzz back as it once was.
I won't sell it again, I will hang on to it, and I will go when the mood takes me. I've just found an old Tony Scott TT stick/waggler rod that has got the juices flowing again for a bit of trotting this winter for some chub. I had one of these in the late 70's early 80's and loved it. Sold it when i discovered wine women and song. There's a lesson here.
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In reply to Post #3
I had twins 16 years ago. One of them is a super keen carper now . You will get time in a few years.
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In reply to Post #5
Congratulations on the expected arrivals I went through the exact same thing.I had a young family at the time,I just couldn't find the time or energy.I was working 7 days a week so my daughters mum could stay at home with them,so any spare time I did have I wanted to be with my daughters.The buzz will come back,I take my step son and daughter fishing now and love watching them and the smiles on their faces when the float starts dipping under
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In reply to Post #4
selling up hasnt crossed my mind mate. just glad its not just me who loses the buzz for it sometimes.
yeah i think ill be gagging for a few hours peace and quiet in a few months time. although im looking forward to teaching the nippers how to float fish.
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In reply to Post #3
way too much going on to even consider getting the rods out.
Keep the gear, you will need to get out for some peace and quite by the sounds of it
Used to fish winters, last few, days only and that is weather dependant if I fancy it. Long cold days and nights, not for me nowadays. Each to their own of course
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks for this reply mate, yeah similar position for me. covid put a hold on our wedding, we managed to get married august gone, now found out the wife is pregnant with TWINS 
way too much going on to even consider getting the rods out.
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In reply to Post #1
Hell yeh. I'm 54 and have fished since age 12. General course fishing that gradually morphed into 'carping'.
Didn't go at all from 16 to 21. Then regularly again
Throughout my 20s and 30s. Sometimes I might go every week other times once in a year.
My most recent gap was when we moved to this house 10 years ago. Lot of work to do. A young son and all my kit was at the back of a long full garage. That lasted.about 4 or 5 years.
At no stage did I ever think of 'selling up' or do a big drama. It's just fishing. I always knew I would go again. My advice is dont worry about it.
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been a while since ive posted as had a lot on in life as everyone does.
has anyone else ever lost the buzz? I havent even thought about fishing in months a i have no drive to go.
i dont know if its due to having a lot on at the moment but normally rewind 6 months ago i couldnt stop thinking about going.
anyone have any advise to get out of this mindset or has experienced it before?
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