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In reply to Post #31
Lol I know all that... Infused that is what interests me or better said makes me smile... I guess it is great selling point...
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In reply to Post #29
SALT has been used for donkeys years to preserve things fish meats on the old ships on long voyages everything and of course now fishing baits
Himalayan rock salt is brilliant stuff very strong and ideal for preserving baits for a very long time
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In reply to Post #27
If you use oils and pg or similar base liquid you should be fine but I would still air dry them longer before packing.
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In reply to Post #27
Himalayan rock salt infused boilies wtf  infused what does that even mean?
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In reply to Post #23
I think the coffee bags are a plastic that is called 'terracycle' or something like that, and can be recycled.
I do know my soft plastic packing goes in a bag for life and then gets taken to the plastic recycle bin at Sainsbury's.
Must admit that I have stopped buying veg from the supermarket and now use my local greengrocers who at the most put mushrooms in a paper bag, or straight into my bag.
I'll be using a grandma's trolley next...  
So many things with shelf lifes, but as with anything, simple is often the best and easiest.
I said earlier in the thread I take what I need, simply tip a kilo into a bait bucket, and a few being dropped into my particles.
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In reply to Post #26
A friend of mine air dries his fresh boilies fro 24 hours then adds a liquid of choice then vacuum seals them in 1kg batches.
He then claims he doesn’t need to freeze them and they last for months being stored in his garage.
I’m going to try this myself as my freezer is full and would be really useful for taking bait to France where the venue I am going to doesn’t have room in their freezers for anglers own bait
It might be a great alternative to shelf life if it works as he claims
Another alternative I’ve seen is the Urban baits option where they are selling Himalayan rock salt infused boilies that do not require freezing. Although the price per kg seems expensive
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In reply to Post #25
a lot of whats out there is called "lay flat tubing" or precut poly bags, and go by a gauge or micron thickness.
Stickys 5kg ones will be thicker due to the amount of bait in them, so its a good shout! same with any bulk resealable bag, most the big firms are going to be using the same specification of thickness. for that size between 400 and 500 gauge 
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In reply to Post #23
I use my old sticky baits 5kg bags to keep my pellets in as I don't trust these pop up bait company's on social media for ****
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In reply to Post #23
Just a case of prioritising convenience over the environment. Even all the bait freezers ticking over constantly is not a good look.
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In reply to Post #22
well done for being environmentally conscious. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a feasible option for plastic free freezer bait storage, shelf life you can get away with it just about, but its cost prohibitive hence a lot of firms don't. plus its usually lined like coffee bags which is even worse as cant be recycled like plastic. thought about multiple use plastic but I think customers would think it looked manky ( silly but true).
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In reply to Post #21
Nothing has moved on. They’re still fish and they still eat bait
I use shelf life mostly, but buy fresh occasionally and while I have a vacuum packer I dislike the plastic waste it generates
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In reply to Post #19
I was originally going to use CCMoores Pacific Tuna as a few lads up near where I live swear by it on the waters near me. The water I'm actually going to fish is in Hertfordshire but still opted for this bait as it's obviously good quality judging from the feedback given.
Then I noticed this one particular guy fishing the venue in Hertfordshire uses Sticky Baits Krill Shelf Life boilies and he's done extremely well on it throughout the year.
I haven't fished for carp specifically for about 10 years and it's obviously all moved on so much in that time. When I fished with the guys in East Yorkshire everyone was on Nutrabaits Trigga and on the venues down south it was Active-8 and Assassin-8.
I really need to try and catch up with some decent reading if anyone can suggest any on both fresh and shelf life baits.
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In reply to Post #1
I have 5kilo bags of shelf lifes in my cupboard. I take out what I need for the session and use the zipseal on the bag until next time.
5kilos may last 2or3 months for me depending on how much I fish.
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In reply to Post #17
Depends on the bait really, you can go through a lot of faff but I just monitored what I used and bagged up my personal bait with what I'll likely use / bait up with.
You can refreeze bait, just bare in mind each time you do this it will soften slightly. It would be best practice to only do this the once. as multiple times can make the bait extremely soft / split too easily. again though this is dependant on what you use.
There are baits out there that are binder heavy, and fairly muted in terms of how quickly they go off, these can be refreezed multiple times. good quality slightly soft fishmeals for example don't really like it.
It is trial and error though as everyone likes their bait different!
A lot of people see them as gimmicks but a decent bait bag keeps your bait in a stable environment and I recommend them, I've used fox, thinking anglers, all sorts. however for an overnight its either just a standard packet, or if I've got left over bait from the days work I throw this into a bucket and save wasting plastic etc.
It all depends how much effort you wanna go through with looking after your bait, but bait in better condition ( not always fresh but prime condition per say ) is an advantage, I as always told look after your bait and it'll look after you, and its so true.
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In reply to Post #17
If you're going down the freezer rout make sure you buy a bait that's freshly rolled.
Vacuum pack the bait (get the little machines and bags off Amazon, Ebay etc). Once packed freeze.
Take out what you want but only open bags you will use, any un-opened bags re-freeze, no damage done and you can do this a number of times.
I vacuum mine in 2KG packs and 1KG packs, in some I add a bit of liquid but its not really needed. When you defrost a vacuum pack of bait it will be as good as the day you got it even a year or so down the line, zero freezer burn 
Oldgeezer should be along later, like me he's been doing it for years too.
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OK, so if I decide to go down the route of sticking with freezer baits, most of my trips will be 48 hrs. Will I be better off just trying to keep them as cool as possible. Would I be able to re-freeze any I don't use afterwards or would it be better to air dry the leftover bait.
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In reply to Post #15
I mentioned Cell
because I was talking to the guy at Mainline about a bait they had discontinued (Maple) and we got talking about shelf lifes and he told me that Cell was one of the baits that wasnt possible to make a shelf life version without changing a lot of the ingredients
yes sure WE can air dry them salt them etc but thats a bit different isnt it
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In reply to Post #13
I semi-preserved some as a favour for someone going to gigantica just before the first lock down, they never got to go and it was in good nick during an autumn garage clear out apparently.
He did ask me to pack it in pink salt which I did, which no doubt helped?
Was 2020 cell original cell though?
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Oxygen
Moisture
Heat
Are your enemies. The more of them you remove the better your bait will last.
There arent many baits that cant be kept for a good while as long as they're looked after.
Re Cell even Dave Lane extends the life of his cell by air- drying and covering in Cell liquid
I appreciate that not everyone will have room or a suitable place to store baits or they simply are confident in the shelf-lifes they use, if so crack on and good luck to you. But In my opinion the only reason for shelf lifes is for shops to fill their shelves.
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In reply to Post #8
Apparently they are made with the same ingredients as the freezer baits with the only difference being the preservative.
No thats not always true at all a good example is the original CELL freezer bait that cant be made into a shelf life bait no matter how much preservative it will just go rotten very quickly and there are others OFTEN there are alterations to the ingredients from the freezer version to the shelf life its not just a case of bunging in a load of preservatives
the single best thing I have ever bought has to be a vacuum packer 
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In reply to Post #10
A lot of freezer bait you buy has the preservatives mixed it, it just gets wet when defrosted and becomes normal bait.
A lot of shelf life’s nowadays are extremely similar to their freezer bait counterparts, however a really well put together bait with fresh ingredients can still go “stale” despite adding preservatives which inhibit mould. It just seems to tone down and lose its effectiveness. Plus baits made with fresh eggs, good fishmeals and not dried until pebbles WILL still go off within about 6 months to a year. The only baits that last years and years are usually full of very easy to preserve ingredients such as breadcrumb, maize, semolina etc.
If you buy from a local bait maker? One of my local customers used my freezers last year when he’s broke, he lives 15 mins away and it saved 20kg of boilie and 20kg tigers going to waste
Come to think of it that’s a terrible business on my part lol
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In reply to Post #10
I don't keep them for months. I buy them as needed. They come in resealable bags which I reseal with the air squeezed out and then keep the bags in an airtight bucket. They stay fresh feeling and smelling for several months if necessary. If they do dry out I rehydrate them with whichever liquid I prefer.
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In reply to Post #9
When you've opened a bag, do you need to do anything in particular with what you have leftover, like coat them in krill liquid/keep them in an airtight container.
I was going to do a bulk order of freezer baits but thinking it might suit me better atm to go for shelf life's as we may be moving house this year so will help a bit with the move.
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In reply to Post #8
This could be interesting. Don't know the answer but I use Sticky Krill shelf lifes and catch my share.
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Thinking of trying Shelf Life boilies as I've heard that they are just as good as Freezer baits these days. Apparently they are made with the same ingredients as the freezer baits with the only difference being the preservative.
Can anyone verify this for me please. Looking at trying Sticky Baits in particular.
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In reply to Post #6
I have turned freezer baits into shelf life with glycerin and then vacuumed them
Still have some in the shed
Atlantic heat if it helps any
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In reply to Post #5
Have you done this with freezer baits Gerry?
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In reply to Post #1
YES Vacuum sealer is the simple answer
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Add a bit of fish sauce into the bag, just enough to glaze them, shake them up every few days until they drink it in and it'll help prevent them drying out.
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In reply to Post #2
I reseal the open packet as best I can and keep them in an airtight bait bucket. Sticky Krill come in resealable bags.
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Hi everyone,
I only use shelf boilies because I havent got the space to buy frozen bait.
what methods do you guys use to keep them "fresh" as long as possible like they are before opening the bag ?
I usually try to close the bags as much as I can, but the boilies dont last long in that "fresh/new" condition.
is a bag sealer/vacuum worth it ? anyone uses that ?
am open to ideias
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