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In reply to Post #8
Harry, I've had the very same issue with one of my Castizms. It was the bearing that sits on the pinion gear.
BTW, the magseal on these reels is inside that sealed bearing, it's unlikely the magoil has leaked from the bearing, but there's a slim chance it could have. Best bet is to get the reel sent off and sorted out. Quite a few people will service magseal reels now. Hope that helps mate.
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In reply to Post #12
Yes pure fishing and all now made in China.
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In reply to Post #11
I think van staal are made in China and owned by one of the big boys now, pure fishing maybe. Either way, they're putting out a fully machined reel you can swim with while reeling in.. people have splash mats under their carp reels ffs 
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In reply to Post #10
Absolutely bang on Noj, I've not used or serviced any van stalls but on paper they're quiet something, been doing a lot of avet multipliers this year which are another independent outfit producing some amazing little machines, I'd love to see a fixed spool produced by them as their design and machining is quiet something. 
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In reply to Post #9
I'm with you mate, not a fan of the newer stuff. The ss and tournaments are just the right dimensions and spool taper etc. But the real positive is that even if parts support dried up there are countless donor reels in circulation.
It's nice having a smooth retrieve, but a reel's main function is to store/release line and provide a braking system. With decent parts support and serviceability long term obviously
If we're buying £600+ reels I really don't get why there isn't something like a van staal? Exact tournament/ss2600 dimensions with a machined solid body/rotor and full stainless gearing and a sealed body/drag. They would clean up
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In reply to Post #8
Cheers Noj, as an angler I'm a daiwa man through and through(mostly older types such as ss or emblems) as i like the robustness and also the styling but i will admit that shimanos have always been better sealed even without any form of mag seals, the casing designs don't let in anywhere near the same amount of dirt and moisture that the daiwas do. I service hundreds of reels every year for various outlets and I've got to say I'm not entirely convinced with direction daiwa are headed not so much in terms of sealing but more in terms of components used. Much as i appreciate they are aiming for the lightest reels possible they seem to be using the bare minimum amount of housing screws and ridiculously small fine ones at that, especially to hold the magseal and pinion components in situ. The ar bearings are also not in the same league as shimanos own super stopper ar bearing which almost forms an integral part of the casing whereas daiwas is a stock needle bearing that is held by a couple of little grooves, on the latest daiwas it is not even shrouded as it sits below the magseal plate so that is really all that keeps it in place, again another area for future concern possibly
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In reply to Post #1
Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated. I did find a lot of info last night on American fishing forums, where quite a few people are servicing the reels themselves. The mag oil is Daiwa use is made by Ferrotec, they have a UK distributor based in Cannock - I've sent them an enquiry, just to see if they can supply. I doubt they'll sell direct to a consumer and in the small quantity I'd want. But hey, worth a try. Else, someone recommended Jim's Reel Shop to me. I did start to strip down the reel last night, but quickly realised it isn't as easy to work on, unlike a Shimano... really puts me off ever buying a mag sealed reel again...
Thank you again everyone
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In reply to Post #4
Appreciate the endorsement mate but I wouldn't have a clue
Ian is your man clearly having fiddled with a few. I'm put off by it to be honest, seal a reel by all means, but I should be able to realistically repair the bloody thing. Luckily most of the magseal carp market reels have qd so I wouldn't want them anyway.
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In reply to Post #5
If the magseal ferro fluid has entered the bearing or worse then you may need a new pinion bearing, i doubt it will go much further than that as theres only a tiny amount present but it has got a habit of getting everywhere when disturbed. I have done a lot of magseals in the past couple of years and it is absolutely possible to remove the magseal plate and service without needing to replace the fluid I'm aware this is not the original post issue but for anyone thats interested upon disassembly the most difficult part is removing the rotor from the magseal magnetic coupling as they're shaped like a cup so the rotor sits into this and if you were to simply pull the rotor off you will completely ruin the magseal as the fluid is now not contained by the magnetic coupling. Theres not a lot of room to work but you can insert a fine long tool to hold this in position whilst gently wiggling the rotor off then the whole magseal plate and coupling can be gently removed as one. As for replacing the fluid, I've yet to find the perfect viscosity which i suppose is daiwas own trade secret, there are some speaker fluids that work to an extent but i purchased some at an exorbitant price from an korean company (mf or something similar) that seems about right.
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Plenty of vids on YouTube showing you how to service them ! I'd imagine obtaining the oil is the difficult thing.
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In reply to Post #3
Iirc you can't do them yourself. Noj Is probably the best man to answer you though
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks mate, but I'd appreciate an answer, rather than a question.
The fault is diagnosed - it just needs servicing/oil change. Seems to be a common issue with early MagSealed reels.
Anyone serviced the reel themselves with a MagSealed Daiwa?
Thanks again.
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In reply to Post #1
Isn't that standard though, not many can give you a price to repair something before the fault has even been diagnosed?!
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Hi. Apologies if this has been asked before, but couldn't find much on it when I searched...
One of my Castizms sounds like it has grit in it, which I have now learnt is the MagSeal going west or something like that. I contacted Daiwa and they were useless - just asking I send them the reel and they'll let me know 'how much'. After reading about people getting quotes as high as the cost of the reel itself, I think I will pass on that.
I service all my reels myself. Never had any issues doing it and I've even fitted new parts where needed. That's not just reels I use for carp, but smaller fixed spools and multipliers/bait casting reels I use for lure fishing... needless to say, I am not that keen on sending off my reels to anyone when I can do the job myself... so...
Q - Has anyone successfully stripped down and serviced a Daiwa reel with MagSeal? I'm about to open the reel up and get to work, so any advice from someone who's done it, is very welcome.
Thank you!
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