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cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #52 10 Aug 2020 at 7.29pm  0  Login    Register
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It’s gone completely last copy 2,3,4 months ago.
SilureMark
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   Old Thread  #51 10 Aug 2020 at 7.27pm  0  Login    Register
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I wouldn't say ages ago, but I agree, it ain't what it was
SilureMark
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   Old Thread  #50 10 Aug 2020 at 7.25pm  0  Login    Register
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If their website is anything to go by, I wouldn't bother...
duggs
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   Old Thread  #49 10 Aug 2020 at 7.21pm  0  Login    Register
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Carp world die ages ago
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #48 10 Aug 2020 at 7.21pm  0  Login    Register
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Carpworld is no more my friend.
SilureMark
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   Old Thread  #47 10 Aug 2020 at 7.19pm  0  Login    Register
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When wasn't it boring? The pictures they use are always underexposed or of poor quality, many of the writers are frankly just trying to push the tackle or bait company that sponsor them. I've only ever had a copy when someone has given me it and the only use I had was to wipe my arse with it. It;s worse than Total Carp and that's is saying something... a magazine that spends most of its time publishing utter crap, has writers who frankly havec caught ess than my 12 year old and I love their reviews - everything is brilliant, five stars! If only - I suppose when you get given gear to test they feel obliged to say how good it is. Either way, it's just laughable. About the only magazine still worth buying is Carp World and that can be 50% adverts these days. Such a shame, but I guess with everything you want to know and more being online, then these magazines always had an ever reducing appeal.
jason_h
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jason_h
   Old Thread  #46 10 Aug 2020 at 1.41pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #39
For everyone looking for a decent quality magazine, not 100% carp but with some excellent diversity take a look at Catch Cult.

A proper read for proper anglers IMHO
Bristolsaint40
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Bristolsaint40
   Old Thread  #45 10 Aug 2020 at 1.08pm  0  Login    Register
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I tend to read Big Carp and Freeline on line now, both completely free and out monthly
sbbaron
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sbbaron
   Old Thread  #44 9 Aug 2020 at 11.32am  0  Login    Register
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I think it was every 2 months mate
essesxandy
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essesxandy
   Old Thread  #43 9 Aug 2020 at 10.06am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
Carpworld started of as a quarterly publication if I remember correctly?
I didn't think that there was enough quality material for even that to be monthly.
LochLondon
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   Old Thread  #42 8 Aug 2020 at 12.11pm  0  Login    Register
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10000% agree - rumour has it Gaz is working on a a forgotten chapters II, what a blast the original was - particularly enjoyed the Dark Park chapter from James Turner & the sheepwalk fish.

🙏🙏 Gaz
scozza
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   Old Thread  #41 7 Aug 2020 at 7.24pm  0  Login    Register
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Could be some real mileage in that, catch up with peoples campaigns and something to look forward to instead of the regular churned out paper rolls packed with the same old, same old
Tadpole2
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Tadpole2
   Old Thread  #40 7 Aug 2020 at 5.51pm  0  Login    Register
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Need a Subsurface 4....please......
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #39 7 Aug 2020 at 1.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #38
Agree I would certainly buy a decent quarterly magazine - something worth keeping.
Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #38 7 Aug 2020 at 0.52am  0  Login    Register
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Some of the content is interesting as mentioned Simon Scott, Penning but there’s only so many faux “reviews” and adverts I can take especially at £5 plus. It’s a shame as I still think there’s a market for a top quality magazine on the lines of Carpworld, Big Carp, Carp Fisher and the Carp Catcher maybe quarterly with a Carp Talk type section for notable captures. Subsurface and likes proved it’s possible. Producing such a title as a collectible “coffee table book “ on quality print could command a higher price with more story and experience based articles rather than bait and tackle plugs and yet another article on how xyz ties a solid bag rig!!!!🙄
SPINBOWLER
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SPINBOWLER
   Old Thread  #37 6 Aug 2020 at 9.29pm  0  Login    Register
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Those are the ones who only buy the mags for the pictures.
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #36 6 Aug 2020 at 4.50pm  0  Login    Register
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Even some of the you tube stuff is boring - same music 🎶 they even say the same stuff “happy days” nothing is original - done to Death! Zzzzzzzzzz
maplecream
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   Old Thread  #35 6 Aug 2020 at 4.48pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #34
Well said, especially the last paragraph
scozza
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   Old Thread  #34 6 Aug 2020 at 4.33pm  0  Login    Register
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When it first came on the scene it was free and came in A5 format / side of a carryall pocket size and at the time I thought it was brilliant. Used have very good story’s in it. Cockle who used to post on here had his Wraysbury exploits in it, very enjoyable read, bit of mystery, lot of good proper story’s at the time and less hype.

I guess now it’s a sign of the time. I lost my interest in mags due to the masses of adverts and some of the sickly bull****. Carpworld was the last I picked up now and again.

We are entering a different era. Cyber world, brag book, you tube it’s all out there if you like that kind of stuff. Makes my **** itch personally. I have seen a bit of decent stuff but when somebody starts giving it the big “I am” it’s switched off. More and more morons come into the sport every year for me and their representation of carpfishing is far different to my passion. Some of them, other than a slice of trying to be famous, I can’t honestly see why they are in it. Each to their own I suppose
chlobo
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   Old Thread  #33 6 Aug 2020 at 1.53pm  0  Login    Register
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I have been thinking that for a while ,cant see myself renewing my subscription
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #32 6 Aug 2020 at 1.20pm  0  Login    Register
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Fair comments however I Don’t agree about your comments about carpology fella. I love reading a big intellectual article there have been very few in the the latest carpology editions.
AideyKaye
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   Old Thread  #31 6 Aug 2020 at 11.06am  0  Login    Register
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Did they disappear not long after they showed the NGT stove was better than the Quad Connect stove for boiling times and Gas usage?

Is anyone REALLY surprised this is happening? MANY people realised years ago that everything is the same. Re-branded with a different badge. There is next to zero innovation compared to the mid to late 2000's, and what with Youtube and social media, why pay a fiver for shiny paper when you have forums with better bait heads than any 20 year old in a tracksuit?

Total Carp is all about sales. It is a magazine of salesman selling. Everything is under a guise. I did this, I caught that, I used XYZ, which is available in all good tackle shops (only for the boat from China to run into some issues). It's bought by those who change bait six times a year and have about 30 different variations of the KD/QD/MD/ADHD rigs on a rig board they purchased on the basis XYZ said it was the next best thing....only for it to end up on Facebay a few weeks later.

Carpology on the other hand, tried to bring in a comedic aspect and be more about the "social" and later on, focus heavily on the "experience" rather than focus heavily on gear. I think it works, hence why they have lasted so long. They got the balance right. They focus a lot more now on a Carpworld and Big Carp style of writing, but as shown on here, some just don't have the attention span or feel the necessity to spend an hour reading an article about a lake they will never fish. They don't appreciate the style of writing or let themselves get immersed in the atmosphere created by the writing.

Look, if you want to read about XYZ "smashing the granny" out of Brasenose 1 because you need an alternative to your "game changer" hookbaits, fair enough. You keep the industry ticking over buying the next greatest thing, because the Big Carp readers with their Indestructable Cotswold Luggage who roll their own HNV for 3 quid a kilo aren't exactly pumping money into it are they? They don't need to. They found what works twenty years ago and stick by it.
duggs
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   Old Thread  #30 5 Aug 2020 at 12.40pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
They were doing group tests a few years ago, a pretty useful format I thought, perhaps some manufacturers threw their toys out at poor ratings as I haven't noticed them for a while.
Chuffy
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Chuffy
   Old Thread  #29 5 Aug 2020 at 12.35pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
Most magazine/media reviews are just copy and pasted press releases from the company selling the product so basically no use to anyone
midlandman
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midlandman
   Old Thread  #28 5 Aug 2020 at 12.27pm  0  Login    Register
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They daren’t slag off don’t need to........we do enough of that on here
NOJOAKES
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NOJOAKES
   Old Thread  #27 5 Aug 2020 at 5.52am  0  Login    Register
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Most of carpology is just a load of dribble as are the reviews as you say. They never say anything negative.
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #26 5 Aug 2020 at 1.12am  0  Login    Register
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I’m not sure any magazines done genuine reviews, probably more to the fact the companies paying to advertise would pull out.
SPINBOWLER
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   Old Thread  #25 5 Aug 2020 at 0.15am  0  Login    Register
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Bacardiblue
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Bacardiblue
   Old Thread  #24 4 Aug 2020 at 11.57pm  0  Login    Register
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Their reviews are not much to go on. They never give a bad one or for them to say its over priced.
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #23 4 Aug 2020 at 3.58pm  0  Login    Register
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Zack
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   Old Thread  #22 4 Aug 2020 at 2.17pm  0  Login    Register
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>>>> Let's be honest though, some of them really weren't.... 😂<<<<<

Depends how long you had spent on the bank and the only female voice you have heard in days was how much of your top up was left on your phone when you checked.

Other than that, nothing special to get excited about.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #21 4 Aug 2020 at 12.55pm  0  Login    Register
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I'd forgotten fitty of the month. Let's be honest though, some of them really weren't.... 😂
duggs
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   Old Thread  #20 4 Aug 2020 at 12.28pm  0  Login    Register
I grab the odd copy still, mostly out of habit having bought the first 100 religiously. I find less of interest in it now, it's got a bit more serious than the earlier mags, and my own angling has changed a lot so I find most articles less relevant to me.

It's probably the best of the remaining mags though, I'd quite like to see it continue as a quarterly with a big dose of subsurface inspiration. Some quality coffee table reading rather than the 30 minute scan it is now.

I'm tempted to buy one of the hoodies though, I used to live in them in the mid noughties
scaley&dark
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   Old Thread  #19 4 Aug 2020 at 12.03pm  0  Login    Register
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Yep. Like all the previous bygone magazines before it. THe Cost of paper 📝 going up along with the sponsorship writers fees going up with popularity and demand.
Publishing Overheads would be cut by going online only and paper free.
I still like reading on paper though, more than online.

Greekskii
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Greekskii
   Old Thread  #18 4 Aug 2020 at 10.53am  0  Login    Register
Carpology website has a lot of the decent stuff archived on it. I tend to dig back through the articles to find some good content. It’s 100% changed in to more of an advert mag now. I am sure it used to be much more real and less biased.

But let’s face it, most of us stopped buying it when the fitty of the month got dropped
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #17 4 Aug 2020 at 10.47am  0  Login    Register
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Total Carp is definitely the more basic of the magazines and I found it awful to read and as such have not bought a copy in at least 5 years (so accept it may have improved in that time, albeit unlikely). I agree that most of carpology is just not interesting anymore and is very repetitive and does now read, look at how big my fish was, this is how I caught it, which is very similar time and time again and as already mentioned, there is only so many ways that can be written. There are a few exceptions for me as I put earlier in the thread but sad to say the era of magazines is truly over and an online subscription model is the likely only viable way forward for the few that are left
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #16 4 Aug 2020 at 10.39am  0  Login    Register
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Really? Carpology comes across as just a **** as the rest of the comics were before they went one by one. It's the Mr man of the magazine world......
bluebeat13
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   Old Thread  #15 4 Aug 2020 at 10.31am  0  Login    Register
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Yep, those 2000 word fishing magazine articles are truly for the intellectuals amongst us..
jam-ie
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   Old Thread  #14 4 Aug 2020 at 10.05am  0  Login    Register
If you have a short attention span yeah go for total carp i like it to YouTube everything is short and broken down into little sections. Carpology articles are for people with a reading level above a five year old who can actually sit and read an article lol. Don’t say I don’t have time for that as it doesn’t wash lol
Nairnp
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Nairnp
   Old Thread  #13 4 Aug 2020 at 8.44am  0  Login    Register
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I agree, I have a sub that's is due to run out later this year (thanks to free bait deals)

Much prefer Total Carp, find it much more practical with regards to tips etc, I find carpology a bit dull now, never end up reading the full issue which is a shame really as I much prefer print media over online.
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #12 3 Aug 2020 at 10.40pm  0  Login    Register
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I did buy the hardback copy they were recently selling for £20 and only 200 copies, maybe collectible in years to come.
Spod
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Spod
   Old Thread  #11 3 Aug 2020 at 10.38am  0  Login    Register
They mentioned in the latest issue, (200th anniversary one) that they probably don't expect to be in printed form in the next couple of years. Sad but true, (Carp Addict, Carpworld, ACF, and a couple more have all disappeared).
Darkieallard
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   Old Thread  #10 2 Aug 2020 at 9.51pm  0  Login    Register
I will only buy carpology if a can get a book or bait deal then it pays for itself.

There close too me which is handy and have bought bait from them direct without a subscription in the past.
AideyKaye
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   Old Thread  #9 2 Aug 2020 at 6.49pm  0  Login    Register
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Would be interesting to know how many units they shift per month.

If they put the content on Youtube each month and monetized it they would achieve a far wider audience. I would happily pay a few quid a month for several hours of content.
Scott888
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   Old Thread  #8 2 Aug 2020 at 10.38am  0  Login    Register
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I’ve always preferred books to magazines personally, there’s plenty of fishing books available on Apple Books if you fancy them. Believe there’s a full list on the forum
OJCARP
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   Old Thread  #7 2 Aug 2020 at 10.33am  0  Login    Register
Agreed. The reviews also frustrate me as they just repeat the marketing spiel from the company rather than actually reviewing. In mountain biking mags that I also read they give meaningful reviews and group tests. Nothing like that in the carp mags.
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #6 2 Aug 2020 at 10.24am  0  Login    Register
The mags have been going downhill for years, hence they are disappearing one by one. There's only so much they can put in them really, how many articles on how to tie a pva bag, or how to tie a hinged stiff rig, or whatever do we need. They mostly seem to be full of session diary style pieces which tbh bore the hell out of me.
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #5 2 Aug 2020 at 9.10am  0  Login    Register
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Glad I’m not the only one - a book - good idea 💡! 😉. I do believe there is room for a better carp magazine especially as there is no carp world on the shelf. I won’t be buying carpolgy again at £5.50 a go - even there product reviews are biased as they are paid by the tackle manufacturer - they never have a bad word to say about anything!
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #4 2 Aug 2020 at 6.40am  0  Login    Register
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I agree that the majority of the content is quite dull. I do enjoy Harry Way Barkers diaries as is a cross between fishing and fishery management which I find interesting. Simon Scott is a great addition and I don't mind Adam Penning's writing. My subscription is due to expire soon and without a deal that interests me unlikely to renew
Wood_Pool
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Wood_Pool
   Old Thread  #3 2 Aug 2020 at 2.18am  0  Login    Register
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Yes, I got the subxcription because of the bait deal but I have a backlog of about four months worth of magazines to read. Even with a lot of time on my hands.

They are going the right way in terms of design of the magazine but unfortunately most of their feature article writers are really boring and cliched. It is hard to make the capture of a 50lb+ English carp seem dull but these guys have found a way.

Notable exceptions for Simon Scott, who is amazing, and also read a couple of articles from Terry Dempsey that I enjoyed that were published around March, (not sure if Terry is a regular yet as I have a backlog).
JamieH
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   Old Thread  #2 1 Aug 2020 at 11.25pm  0  Login    Register
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Sounds to me like you could do with buying a new book to read. Have you ever read Tiger Bay?? Even if you have, give it another read. It is like fishing remedy on paper. Or even something like Savay Chronicles.
cornish-carper
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cornish-carper
   Old Thread  #1 1 Aug 2020 at 11.18pm  0  Login    Register
Is it me or is carpology just become boring? Adverts and they seem obsessed with the past nothing wrong with a bit of carp history don’t get me wrong. The articles I just find mediocre?? Oh and it’s gone up in price!
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