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Alcatraz
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Alcatraz
   Old Thread  #30 11 Jan 2021 at 6.23pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #29
I have some grub screws that will work that you can have for the cost of the postage.... i bought them with the intention of getting some of these arms but ended up getting solar titanium instead... PM me if you want them....D
Daveyyyyyyyyyyy
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   Old Thread  #29 11 Jan 2021 at 5.09pm  0  Login    Register
Doesn't if have to be a doubled ended thread grub screw ? I have just bought these pivot arms and I have the same problem I now need to attach my bobbins to the end with out the male thread on ,the grub screws I have seen are slotted and the ones I will need will have to have a point at both ends ,,any ideas chaps
daveman
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   Old Thread  #28 1 Aug 2020 at 11.33am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #27
Definitely, you don't get any of the swing in the wind 👍🏻
Boris_Carp
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Boris_Carp
   Old Thread  #27 1 Aug 2020 at 11.27am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #26
Do you find the pivot arms better in the wind
I am getting false beeps with my bobbins and tlbs
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #26 1 Aug 2020 at 7.15am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #25
I've just actually sold a 15 year old stainless Trident pod which was in as good condition practically as the day it was bought. Mate of mine is on his 4th set of carbon in half that time due mostly to breakages, although hes a clumsy sod with a hammer admittedly.

Will always be a stainless/titanium fan 👍

Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #25 31 Jul 2020 at 9.32pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
Looks smart mate, matches the stainless to a tee, but you do know stainless is so last century... carbon is where it at now 🤷‍♂️😂😂
Perry_J
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   Old Thread  #24 31 Jul 2020 at 2.50pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #21
Funnily enough, before Cygnet bought them out, Muddy Waters did supply 2BA grub screws with some of their products...
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #23 31 Jul 2020 at 2.34pm  0  Login    Register
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It's no biggie since the grubs were a fiver delivered. I get the point about them not "universally" fitting other manufacturer's gear that's fair enough but that said 2ba is a pretty standard thread size, I think everything I have connects with a 2ba and all they have to do is include a couple of male 2ba threads.

Anyway, the cheapos from ebay did the trick and I'm happy with the result 👍

Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #22 31 Jul 2020 at 2.17pm  0  Login    Register
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I get where you are coming from but that’s almost like saying for example you drive a Ford and you need a starter motor and expecting a Vauxhall one to fit.. Unfortunately there’s no standardisation in fishing tackle apart from the 3/8” BSF thread used in banksticks etc At least you’ve got to the bottom of the problem, let us know how you get on with them I’ve got the quiver type arms they are okay but not brilliant
daveman
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daveman
   Old Thread  #21 31 Jul 2020 at 1.35pm  0  Login    Register
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Sorry mate don't agree, it does replace chains, if they were to add a 2ba grub screw, then they'd have to add A male to female converter, a 2ba to M5 both for the male and female ends for the Nash guys, plus the M6 for the Fox. That would cover all bases and probably cost you a tenner each.
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #20 31 Jul 2020 at 12.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #19
The description given on Angling Directs website for these pivot arms states "Designed to replace your chains or cords."

So if that's the case in my humble opinion then they should as "supplied" be capable of screwing into whatever you screwed your chords or chains into, simples.

However it's not the case and you need to start fannying around buying grub screws.

It's not a big deal but it is a bit of a misrepresentation to make the suggestion they have.
Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #19 31 Jul 2020 at 0.55am  0  Login    Register
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Oh I get that, I’ve been in engineering for 30 years but the OP made out Cygnet were at fault and guilty of wrongly describing the product.. Cygnet make parts that fit Cygnet products, whether they fit other manufacturers products or not is not there problem.
Perry_J
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   Old Thread  #18 30 Jul 2020 at 10.45pm  0  Login    Register
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Some use chains/arms with male fittings at both ends, such as Solar, and some use female at one end and male at the other, such as Cygnet. There are two common thread sizes used, 2BA (Imperial) and M5 (Metric), so they are mostly compatible. In much the same way, bite alarms from all manufacturers have a 3/8 BSF thread and fit any companies bank sticks etc.
Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #17 30 Jul 2020 at 9.42pm  0  Login    Register
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But they would and do work with Cygnet bobbins.., you can’t expect one company to factor in using someone else’s gear?
Perry_J
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   Old Thread  #16 30 Jul 2020 at 8.56pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
Yep, you've missed something.
Hadrian
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   Old Thread  #15 30 Jul 2020 at 8.01pm  0  Login    Register
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I might have missed something here but Cygnet bobbins heave a female thread and the hockey sticks have a male.... so the arms would surely work as supplied? 🤷‍♂️
daveman
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daveman
   Old Thread  #14 30 Jul 2020 at 3.32pm  0  Login    Register
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I did say a 2ba male and female. If you don't get the grub screws to convert then change the hockey stick, a lot dearer way of doing it though.
Zack
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   Old Thread  #13 30 Jul 2020 at 2.20pm  0  Login    Register
I had the same problem and just bought some 1/2" 2 BA grub screws off Ebay, far cheaper than buying the cygnet ones.
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #12 30 Jul 2020 at 2.04pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
That's spot on thanks mate👍
noddyfisherman
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noddyfisherman
   Old Thread  #11 30 Jul 2020 at 1.57pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
would the century neville ones from the snag ears also work?
Not sure you can get these anymore.
noddyfisherman
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noddyfisherman
   Old Thread  #10 30 Jul 2020 at 1.56pm  0  Login    Register
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cygnet-Clinga-Conversion-Kit-Indicator-Accessories-Fishing/254216012523?hash=item3b307482eb:g:MzoAAOSwQ9hcyFn7
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #9 30 Jul 2020 at 1.39pm  0  Login    Register
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Does anyone have a link for the Cygnet threads?
woody71
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   Old Thread  #8 30 Jul 2020 at 1.29pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #7
if i had the choice i would use stainless
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #7 30 Jul 2020 at 1.21pm  0  Login    Register
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Cheers lads, I've just found these on ebay before I noticed these replies.

Hopefully should achieve the same result👍

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333163340432
carpy09
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carpy09
   Old Thread  #6 30 Jul 2020 at 11.55am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
Cygnet sell the 2ba threaded studs 2 in a pack with Allen key
Boris_Carp
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Boris_Carp
   Old Thread  #5 30 Jul 2020 at 11.53am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #4
Hi
I've got these you need a hockey stick with a male thread like their Clinga links think Muddy waters also do a versions Or Cygnet do a conversion kit

Mark
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #4 30 Jul 2020 at 11.44am  0  Login    Register
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So just got the 3 Cygnet Pivots, and there's definitely no seperate thread attached in there to allow you to fix one end of the pivot arm to a hockey stick. Theres a 2ba on one end to connect to a bobbin and the other end is a 2ba threaded female connection, what a nightmare.

It's something of a misdescreption for Cygnet to suggest these
as a "replacement" for chains, aleast a set of chains come with a 2ba threaded end that you can physically connect to something.

So now I have to locate a small 2Ba threaded (at both ends) bar to enable the female end pivot to connect to my hockey stick.

Appreciate any help, links, suggestions.

RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #3 26 Jul 2020 at 7.47pm  0  Login    Register
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Cheers bud 👍
daveman
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daveman
   Old Thread  #2 26 Jul 2020 at 7.33pm  0  Login    Register
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Yes mate, 2ba a male and female.
RigDemon
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RigDemon
   Old Thread  #1 26 Jul 2020 at 7.30pm  0  Login    Register
I've just been looking at the Cygnet Pivot Arms and the description on these is that they are suitable for replacing chains. I use a Matrix Multi Block quite a lot which a standard chain thread fits into no problem, but when you look at the opposite end of the Cygnet pivot arm, it looks like a female connection.

I guess my question is, are the Cygnet Pivot Arms supplied with a male thread to screw in to a Matrix Multi Bloc, in the same way that a chain thread would fit to a hockey stick?

Thanks chaps
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