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In reply to Post #14 Or just be a well known angler who makes videos but has zero to do with owning or running a water and you're invited in.
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In reply to Post #6 Any pictures of the Harrow (rake) and of it in use please.
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In reply to Post #8 Bloody hell!!!
Might have to sell my copy in that case.
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Any lake owners, club officials or syndicate leaders might like to pm me about joining the Fishery Management Group on Facebook.
It's a private group and only visible to the members, and all applicants need to verify their connection to fishery stuff to ensure its only the right people in the community.
Free practical advise and many years of accumulated knowledge.
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In reply to Post #1 The best thing you could do is talk to a fisheries management company, get a survey of the lake/stock carried out, followed by a management plan, and stick to the management plan. some one like Andrew Ellis
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In reply to Post #1 Had a very similar problem on a Lake almost identical to yours –
We tried 16ft wide Heavy Duty Weed rakes I made from some old heavy gauge Steel Prison type Fence. Connected to 4x4’s by huge Ropes/Steel Cables after being dropped in via a large Punt, it worked – but you have to keep doing it every few weeks as the weed grows back even faster after it being done (Waste of time, money & effort we found)
Dye: If you get it in at the right time around early March/late Feb before the daylight levels increase and promote the weed growth to start, it works a treat. But, and it’s a big BUT, it all depends on how much in-line your water is and if you’re lucky (As this year) with Rainfall, if you have a good flow through your lake when it Rains, Dye can be a expensive waste of time as you just watch it all getting washed out over the over-flow.
Striking that balance between some weed and a Lake that is practically useless with to much weed is very hard to achieve. Don’t forget thou like now – weed is giving out 15 hours of masses of oxygen, later in the summer it does it practically 20 hours per day, and this is at the most probable time of year to have a Oxygen crash or Stratification disaster.
Liming/Siltex: works a treat if you do small areas at a time. We did a large Stock Pond last year while it was pumped dry, heavy dosing with Lime – this year after being re-filled and re-stocked the difference is stark, it looks totally different – crawling with life.
But don’t forget – each lake is different it’s an individual set of circumstances, what works on one won’t work on another.
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In reply to Post #8 thank you all for the advice
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In reply to Post #5 £82 on Amazon though for a paperback!!!!! Other copy is up for £216!!!!
Would have bought it if on Kindle for £10-20 but not at those prices.
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In reply to Post #6 And yes siltex is a must. I have seen the rewards each year and it’s an important job on shallow estate lakes with silty lakebeds surrounded by trees
I do this job In spring when the water is cold as siltexing or Harrowing could cause oxygen crashes on those hot summer days. Remember that weed gives off oxygen in daylight so you need to keep some weed in a lake for it to be healthy. A shallow lake with no weed is a recipe for algae or an oxygen crash
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In reply to Post #3 The Harrow can be made very easily but the key is making it as wide as possible and just heavy enough to be manhandled on a boat. Also if you have a hinged Board on the rear of the boat so that when you are out in the lake you can easily just lift the board and the Harrow will slide in easily to save physically picking it up, it makes it easier. Make sure the Harrow has lots of teeth and don’t Harrow from one side of the lake to the other, just start 50-60 yards out or less. Wrap a rope around one track of a digger that has been lifted off the ground and the track will wind in half a ton of weed without even struggling
The only labour is then clearing the weed off the Harrow in the margin!! I’m doing it next week so will take photos if I get chance
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In reply to Post #1 Hi Stephen,
The Sparsholt guide to the management of carp fisheries by Chris Seagrave
An oldie but a goodie, answers pretty much every question I ever wanted answered and it's an interesting read in it's own right.
Still available online I think
Best
Jon
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In reply to Post #1 Pm for you.
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In reply to Post #2 many thanks for the reply - i assume the harrow would be a heavy homemade job ?
any plants in particular you would advise on planting ?
i agree no quick fix - i personally have learned to adjust and fish in weed but many anglers seem to freak out by it and we have a quite high member turnaround each year because of it. also in very warm weather im always worried about oxygen levels due to the weed/silt.
would you still pursue the regular chalking off the lake anyway ?
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In reply to Post #1 Shallow silty lakes equals weed. The best ways round are a two fold approach. Harrowing the weed out in spring removes the roots and the nutrients that make the weed grow. It’s hard work but made easier with the tracks of a small digger doing the pulling. Also plant new plants around the lake to absorb the same nutrients that make weed grow. Adding siltex can make the water clear which will make the weed grow more but I have also siltexed a very similar lake to yours and have seen the weed vastly reduced in the areas it was applied. Weed cutting is normally like cutting grass, it can grow back! Harrowing and dye are the most effective methods but adding dye would be my last possible alternative
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i help bailiff a very old shallow, very silty estate lake, very weedy in summer. im putting a plan to improve the fishery to the owner but would like some advice.
fish biomass removal is a definite - we have far too many tench and silvers
i managed to talk him into chalking the lake last year - we where due to have a secondary application but one of our members got in his ear telling him that it was increasing the weed growth (which is already bad at times). we have a lot of mature trees depositing leaf matter and im always concerned about oxygen levels in conjunction with the weed in summer
i assume chalking once a year would be hugely beneficial but what effect will that have on weed?
weed control at moment is dye (but being 3 and half to 4 foot deep prob not doing much), a weed cutting boat in for 3 days each year - is there anything else we can do to control it - are we missing anything ?
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