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In reply to Post #17
Thats the one i ordered
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I know that the original posts are 2 years old or more, but Trakker had a reputation for rebranding cheaper items and increasing the price.
The WebTex Warrior Field stove which cost about £15 Trakker were selling for £25-30.
Plain, basic, no preheat, but not bad.
The Bulin T4 which can be got for around the same Trakker were selling for around £50.
I have been through a few stoves over the years and the Bulin is my current go to. Its light, folds and packs away nicely, fitting easily in my rucksack. Mine is a few years old, and has worked down to minus 4⁰C which is the lowest temperature I have done overnighter trips with it.
As Gerry says, when it's cold turn the canister upside down and it will gravity feed, although as I've said on another thread, different makes of gas canister work better than others, with Coleman 70/30 being the worst for gas pressure. Far better to use GoSystem, Primus or SunnGas.
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In reply to Post #76
I didn’t know that Gerry, thank you I’ll give it a whirl 👍
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In reply to Post #75
no real NEED to switch to a coleman ?
as with Primus stoves you simply turn the gas tin upside down and it gravity feeds on the liquid that then vaporizes in the pre heat tube on the stove runs like its mid summer 
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In reply to Post #74
Had 2 bulins both didn’t last a season , go for anything by primus you won’t regret it best gas stoves by a mile imo I’ve got the easy fuel and it’s head and shoulders above the bulins , I do switch to a Coleman when it’s proper cold though 🔥🔥
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In reply to Post #72
well if your serious about spending a bit ? just £67 50 inc delivery
would get you a top quality stove that will probably last easily 20 plus years
the Primus Gravity 3 The Gravity EF comes with a windscreen, heat reflector, and nylon stuff sack.
they just never go wrong and work flawlessly or you could just buy a Bulin every 2 or 3 years that in the end would cost you a lot more LINK BELOW ITS PLUS VAT
LINKY POO  
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Got myself a couple of Bulin T4's for the winter.
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In reply to Post #67
My bulin has seen better days so looking for a similar replacement. took it apart last summer which gave it some additional life.
was looking for a better quality alternative, don't mind spending a bit, but have used that style for many years, does the primus run on the silver butane/propane welders gas cylinders? Any other alternatives or should i just pay my £20 again and go for another bulin?
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In reply to Post #70
Yes. Which is why you dont use 100% butane in winter.
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In reply to Post #69
 CLEARLY he has not used it in sub zero temps as butane does NOT vaporize ( turn from liquid to gas ) in temps below -2
thats why stoves like Bulin with a pre heat tube work so well in sub zero temps
and no Im not mad but think maybe you are 
and you are assuming quite a lot of things all wrong of course
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In reply to Post #67
from: Leeroyjenkins
"Ive had one of those generic £10 chinese stoves, the ones with the orange box, that i have abused for 8 years now. Ive never had an issue with it even in the coldest of weather. "
Gerry, there's your answer above!
...the Primus valve gas cartridge 230 g ->ARE £14! Are you MAD! 
amazon.co.uk/Primus-valve-gas-cartridge-bottle/dp/B000T28GOG/ref=pd_sbs_1/257-9000341-7202903?
I've had a RELIABLE winter stove since 1985 costs PEANUTS to run (£2 fuel ALL winter) 
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In reply to Post #67
Ive had one of those generic £10 chinese stoves, the ones with the orange box, that i have abused for 8 years now. Ive never had an issue with it even in the coldest of weather. I
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In reply to Post #65
Rob ??? one min your slagging off a Bulin then your advocating a proper bit of ***** stove that does not even have a pre heat tube so will be useless in frosty weather
? if you want a really decent quality stove you need to spend the money 
like a Primus Gravity stove I have the original one its over 25 years old still works like new LINKY POO 
Not meaning to be rude but you do need to live in the real world 90% of tackle is made in China these days
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In reply to Post #65
Of course you could....
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In reply to Post #64
yep seems I've just been unlucky, i remember when i bought it was supposed to be made in Germany?
BUT...i do get bitter & twisted on the quality of what's made today, just look at bivvy/brolly systems, i could design a BETTER quality product for what these RIP-OFF tackle-barons charge and it would be FAR SUPERIOR AND LAST 20 YEARS!
BTW, I'm going to post this in both 2 threads LOL!
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In reply to Post #63
Wow 2 threads with exactly same post,did you Bulin sack you or something.I have had a primus stove for around 8 years never serviced and never missed a beat.My mate bought one and after about 2 months it broke,he now has had his bulin 2 years and it's been perfect.I think you have just been unlucky
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In reply to Post #1
heres my 2 pennies worth...
found this thread as looking for Bulin spare parts.
my Bulin T4 is 3 yrs old - used about 20 times per summer
its packed up. I'm an engineer by trade and have taken it apart and will say Bulinis absolute crap! 
i've cleaned it, the jet was blocked and burner internal wire corroded, got it going again, however I doubt if it will last a season out.
guy on YT recommends chickland one only £8.00 ebay ...now gone up to 9.99 sent to ya door from UK, Power: 3500W & Igniter ...he says 2 years and hes had NO probs.
IMO, far better to buy a couple or more of cheapo's - then you may get the price down to £7 !!! 
...its ironic what crap they make today, as i still have my original old BRIT 1980 camping gas stove that takes the blue canisters, and its been used for donkeys of years still works fine, only prob is the canisters are EXPENSIVE if ya can even find them!
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I'm guessing there's a lot of variation in the leg tension on these, mine will quite readily roll itself up if you aren't careful placing/lifting a pan. I have to dig holes for the feet if on ground that isn't perfectly flat/level.
I don't get the cult following of these, yeh when they were £20 delivered with little or no competition below £50, but there are plenty of stoves with pre-heat pipes under £30 available now.
If they're all like mine you lot must enjoy living dangerously
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In reply to Post #58
Just a guess, I get mine done for free 
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In reply to Post #54
Mine perfect for the past 2 years
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In reply to Post #54
No.. just push them out before putting anything on top
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In reply to Post #53
How would you know how much they cost to refill
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In reply to Post #54
Never
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So....I’ve literally just received my Bulin T4 today after seeing so many recommendations. Looks the part and fires up lovely. One thing that does concern me is that the legs don’t ‘lock’ out. Does anyone with one find this a problem when cooking? 
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In reply to Post #47
Coleman 1lb propane bottles and refill them for about 50p a go.
Daz
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In reply to Post #51
Good job I'm bored
@Scotty pleasure mate
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In reply to Post #50
He nearly brought it and delivered for you as well
😂😂😂
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Chuffy, you win most helpful person of the day award
That is mega cheap too! 
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In reply to Post #46
You can't tighten the screw, that's impossible, you can only find the truth.......
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In reply to Post #47
THESE
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What canisters lads? Propane/Butane upright ones I am guessing?
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In reply to Post #45
Why don’t you just tighten the screws on the legs...
Mine has been perfect
It gets through gas if you turn it right up but never found it any worse than the others I’ve used and it is way quicker
gets a solid 9/10 from me and less than a third of the price of the Trakker COPY
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In reply to Post #41
The bulin is a cheap knockoff of an optimus stove, I'd like to see someone try to do a cheaper knockoff
It works well year round, is fairly easy to strip and clean but my one gets through gas in no time and is pretty unstable, mine likes to fold itself up if I'm not very careful. I wouldn't recommend it for that reason
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In reply to Post #42
LINK
Ignore the fact it doesn't say 'Bulin' many companies sell them with their own logo on, like Trakker for example
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In reply to Post #42
You can get them on amazon for £28, with prime too.
Brought one last year after a recommendation from here, great stove and well worth a purchase
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In reply to Post #40
Will it take 6 weeks to arrive? My missus uses it and things take forever to turn up!
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Can anyone link me to a Bulin T4? It looks like there are lots of copies and I don’t want to order the wrong thing! Sorry to be a pain lads 
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In reply to Post #36
Ali express
I don’t like supporting the Chinese directly but everything comes from there anyway so we don’t have a lot of choice
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In reply to Post #33
I had one for 6 to 7 years and eventually it clogged up with soot. I managed to get it clear but only temporarily problem soon returned. I have bought another one so I obviously rate them but I have also just bought a slightly smaller stove from Angling Direct. It has a preheater same as the T4 and was slightly cheaper and is UK stock. Time will tell if it's any good.
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In reply to Post #36
Yes bud
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In reply to Post #33
Me and my mates T4 stoves are 5 years old and still good bud
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Any ideas who has the best deal at the moment? Finding them around £45? Is that the sort of price I should be paying?
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In reply to Post #33
It’s excellent, no problems after 3 years of owning
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In reply to Post #33
Faultless mate
Had it for 18 mths
👍👍
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Sorry to jump on and revive and old thread. What are the long term reviews on the Bulin T4? Looking to purchase one
Cheers Lads
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Its not just AD that raise their prices in advance of a Sale ,
In a lot of instances the e 20 % off often still leave the product around the same price as anywhere else on line .
Example but cant remember the figures now , looking to buy a Fox R series bivvy , thought id wait for the sale to get a good discount , turns out it was marginally more expensive with discount .
So the moral here is just because someone offers discount do your home work and see if it I a good deal .
As they say No deal is better than a Bad deal
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In reply to Post #30
Yep robbing ****s the sooner it goes bust the better
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In reply to Post #29
just checked on AD for the last ittem I bought (avid screen house) and price is 40 pounds up lol
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In reply to Post #28
Apparently their prices do fluctuate but they offer a price match policy.Funny how the prices always seem to rise just before a sale though,some by a good chunk of money.
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In reply to Post #19
I bought one of these from ad and it is a bulin t4 for £19.99 delivered and now its £30 lol.
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In reply to Post #26
If angling direct became only place to buy tackle from I would sell up
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In reply to Post #24
yes i saw that over 33% increase in one go wow .........and then in the black friday sales it will be £20 again...robbers.
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how do i add a link please ?
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In reply to Post #22
Angling Direct doing what they do best.Putting their prices up just before a sale.Bunch of robbing *******s
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i did a cold weather test with the new stove ,the main reason i got this was because of the pre heat tube on this for the cold gas.so i left a canister of plain old butane outside all night a couple of nights ago, in the morning it was white frost all over ,i tried the stove with this can and it was just perfect even on low worked just fine ,well chuffed my last stove butane in the cool let alone the cold was useless..
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In reply to Post #19
looks like £30 to me.
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OK went with the Builn direct from china ,arrived after 13 days free post £18,clearly states on packaging and label 3500w .
seems to work great ...and came very well packaged along with its own little nylon bag .
if anyone needs the link let me know.
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In reply to Post #19
Great find cheers
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In reply to Post #18
OR for 2 quid more and get it delivered free same stove different badge by the look of it ???????
LINKY POO
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For £18 posted from china I'm having a punt on it me thinks
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In reply to Post #13
it does not really foookin matter as you rightly stated ,i asked if the stoves are the same and what are the correct outputs !! half a kilowatt is quite some difference in a small stove tbh..
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In reply to Post #14
yes something not correct there the description clearly says 3000w !!! how Chinese lol...
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In reply to Post #12
Look at the picture says it right next to the flame
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In reply to Post #12
if you look there is a picture of a flame with 3500 on it too but mate FFS ? who in there right mind would worry about a few seconds difference any fookinway ???
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In reply to Post #4
3000w according to this on amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outdoor-Camping-Cooking-Cookware-Backpacking/dp/B0771L5RCM/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=bulin+t4&psc=1&qid=1572539863&sr=8-2
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yes i guessed the same tbh,,either trakkkers has been tweaked to 3500w or someone not telling the truth lol...
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In reply to Post #1
They are the same, Trakker add carp tax.
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In reply to Post #1
About £25
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only difference is carp tax
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Carp life do one aswell cheaper than trakker but more then the T4.
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In reply to Post #1
What Yonny said.
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In reply to Post #1
The bulin is rated at 3500 according to amazon
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In reply to Post #1
differance in price tracker is dearer
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In reply to Post #1
The Trakker is the Bulin re-badged as far as I'm aware buddy.
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Ok so a buddy has a Trakker stove and another guy i spoke to on the bank a few weeks ago had a Bulin T4 ,to me they both looked identical ect for the name......the only difference i have found is that on the Bulin site they state the T4 is only 3000w but trakker state 3500w does anyone know if these are correct ,i would like a 3500w if possible for faster biol ect.
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