Hi all looking at getting some custom built aviators not sure on 12 or 12-6 I have both in the torrix range only just bought the 12-6 to see how they feel
So I'm thinking of having a couple of lessons so I can see which rod suits me better and so I could get advice on reel seat positioning for my size and casting style
Has anyone done this and is there anyone around Liverpool that offers this service or anyone recommend
All the questions 40s or 50s line clips or not alps seat or carbon ect
So I'm thinking of having a couple of lessons so I can see which rod suits me better and so I could get advice on reel seat positioning for my size and casting style
Has anyone done this and is there anyone around Liverpool that offers this service or anyone recommend
All the questions 40s or 50s line clips or not alps seat or carbon ect
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Book a visit to see Kev Clayton and he can help you decide what rod options might suit you.
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As an alternative you could just watch some master classes from the best casters on youtube. Save the money for bait 
Terry Edmonds does/did lessons up and down the country
if you could get a few mates involved in it could work out cheaper and book him direct
if you could get a few mates involved in it could work out cheaper and book him direct
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I had a 1 2 1 lesson with Terry for a full day.
Terry is a legend and such a great guy. He added 70 yards to my casts in one day!
Great value for money and has transformed my fishing.
Highly recommended.
As for rods. I use 13 footers and have never looked back to my 12s.
I had a 1 2 1 lesson with Terry for a full day.
Terry is a legend and such a great guy. He added 70 yards to my casts in one day!
Great value for money and has transformed my fishing.
Highly recommended.
As for rods. I use 13 footers and have never looked back to my 12s.
In reply to Post #2
All ready spoke with Kev waiting on a price thanks
All ready spoke with Kev waiting on a price thanks
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But that's ok but there is no one to correct my bad habits or show me what would be the best reel position ect by watching me cast
Terry Edmond was on my list to contact over lessons
But that's ok but there is no one to correct my bad habits or show me what would be the best reel position ect by watching me cast
Terry Edmond was on my list to contact over lessons
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I know you've not said our and out distance is your goal but if it is, as mjs said 13' is the better option if having another rod made up. I think your right re a lesson 1st, re hand placement on rod, it's a very personal thing.
Someone like Terry might be able to bring other rods he has, he may even have ones your thinking of, worth a ask. Might also be worth dropping Harrison a call to see if they may have a rod your thinking off made up that you could test. I went to the Hartison factory to compare blanks and came out with a rod I didn't even have short listed!
20 years ago I bought some 12' rods of a chap, he was selling them because he couldn't get the best out of them as in his words he couldn't compress them enough. I could but they required a lot of effort from me, and I didn't enjoy using them.
Also worth noting a casting tutor will most likely change your casting style which may change what rod is best suited
I know you've not said our and out distance is your goal but if it is, as mjs said 13' is the better option if having another rod made up. I think your right re a lesson 1st, re hand placement on rod, it's a very personal thing.
Someone like Terry might be able to bring other rods he has, he may even have ones your thinking of, worth a ask. Might also be worth dropping Harrison a call to see if they may have a rod your thinking off made up that you could test. I went to the Hartison factory to compare blanks and came out with a rod I didn't even have short listed!
20 years ago I bought some 12' rods of a chap, he was selling them because he couldn't get the best out of them as in his words he couldn't compress them enough. I could but they required a lot of effort from me, and I didn't enjoy using them.
Also worth noting a casting tutor will most likely change your casting style which may change what rod is best suited
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I had 13s and couldnt get on with them which is was shocked by as used to winging beachcasting rods about.I switched to 12ft 6 aviators and absolutely love them,i can cast further as dont feel so cumbersome.
I had 13s and couldnt get on with them which is was shocked by as used to winging beachcasting rods about.I switched to 12ft 6 aviators and absolutely love them,i can cast further as dont feel so cumbersome.
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I would try and have a lesson two with a good instructor before you choose your blank and specs.
I arranged a session with Mark Hutchinson quite a few years ago. It was really interesting.
I went from about 110 - 140, and another experienced carper went from about 130 - 160. Most interesting was my barbel fishing mate who had never cast long distances previously - Mark got him up to about 170-180 really easily. He didn't have any bad habits to unlearn.
Furthermore we all had different rods, the guy who did 180 had the softest ! If you get the technique sorted you can cast a long, long way.
I would try and have a lesson two with a good instructor before you choose your blank and specs.
I arranged a session with Mark Hutchinson quite a few years ago. It was really interesting.
I went from about 110 - 140, and another experienced carper went from about 130 - 160. Most interesting was my barbel fishing mate who had never cast long distances previously - Mark got him up to about 170-180 really easily. He didn't have any bad habits to unlearn.
Furthermore we all had different rods, the guy who did 180 had the softest ! If you get the technique sorted you can cast a long, long way.
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I always used 12'6 but my spod rod was 12', oh my God, some days it was so embarrassing, for some reason I just didn't click with it, went everywhere
Edit, Got 13' now but need a new spod, if I ever use one again, shoulder might prevent it.
I always used 12'6 but my spod rod was 12', oh my God, some days it was so embarrassing, for some reason I just didn't click with it, went everywhere
Edit, Got 13' now but need a new spod, if I ever use one again, shoulder might prevent it.
I had a lesson with TE and he is brilliant.
The thing is and he explains it so well is 1 lesson is the start of a long journey and it is all about practice, practice, practice.
His advice on rods, reels, line etc is good, that will add a few yards only - the real gains (for me) is the unnatural nature of big casting, as someone below said it is as much about unlearning as it is learning.
I went for the lesson not because I wanted to cast 140 yards or even 120, but I wanted to fish at 100 yards accurately all day every day - including baiting up.
The anglers that can fish well at 140 yards are either naturals or those that put the effort in regards practice. I am neither and would rather spend my non fishing time doing other things that I am more competent at, bait making, rig tying, hook sharpening the stuff I can master and use every session. In over 40 years of angling I can count on one hand the amount of times I have needed or wanted to fish 40 yards further than I can. Even on big ish waters I just don't think it's the edge people believe it is. If it's big enough for the fish to sit out of range they will. We as anglers on big waters are pushing them further and further out, the amount of people I know who are using the kaizens in 4lb - 13ft is mad (to me). There is always a compromise to long range fishing and I find that too much.
One of the most successful anglers (a drenam cup winner) gave me the best advice ever whilst he emptied a certain decent size lake, he had confidence in his tactics and that if he couldn't pult baits out accurately he wasn't interested- he caught far more than his share, by changing the game.
Long winded ridiculous answer but yes get a lesson, absolutely get rods to suit you - but for tournament casters their advice will always be high test curve rods, big leads and aim for the horizon, they are there to teach you to hit your maximum, I was there to stop my 80yards one cast 120 the next habit and TE was brilliant at teaching me how to get the best out of what I was happiest using.
The thing is and he explains it so well is 1 lesson is the start of a long journey and it is all about practice, practice, practice.
His advice on rods, reels, line etc is good, that will add a few yards only - the real gains (for me) is the unnatural nature of big casting, as someone below said it is as much about unlearning as it is learning.
I went for the lesson not because I wanted to cast 140 yards or even 120, but I wanted to fish at 100 yards accurately all day every day - including baiting up.
The anglers that can fish well at 140 yards are either naturals or those that put the effort in regards practice. I am neither and would rather spend my non fishing time doing other things that I am more competent at, bait making, rig tying, hook sharpening the stuff I can master and use every session. In over 40 years of angling I can count on one hand the amount of times I have needed or wanted to fish 40 yards further than I can. Even on big ish waters I just don't think it's the edge people believe it is. If it's big enough for the fish to sit out of range they will. We as anglers on big waters are pushing them further and further out, the amount of people I know who are using the kaizens in 4lb - 13ft is mad (to me). There is always a compromise to long range fishing and I find that too much.
One of the most successful anglers (a drenam cup winner) gave me the best advice ever whilst he emptied a certain decent size lake, he had confidence in his tactics and that if he couldn't pult baits out accurately he wasn't interested- he caught far more than his share, by changing the game.
Long winded ridiculous answer but yes get a lesson, absolutely get rods to suit you - but for tournament casters their advice will always be high test curve rods, big leads and aim for the horizon, they are there to teach you to hit your maximum, I was there to stop my 80yards one cast 120 the next habit and TE was brilliant at teaching me how to get the best out of what I was happiest using.
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Good post. I recently caught my first fish from a 25 acre venue that I have been half-heartedly dabbling with for over 15 years - four rod lengths from the bank. Even 100 yards is fairly uncomfortable for me, these large distances beyond that just don't seem worth the bother when, as you say, it's not really necessary to catch fish.
Good post. I recently caught my first fish from a 25 acre venue that I have been half-heartedly dabbling with for over 15 years - four rod lengths from the bank. Even 100 yards is fairly uncomfortable for me, these large distances beyond that just don't seem worth the bother when, as you say, it's not really necessary to catch fish.