I'm having real problems finding a suitable bedchair for me, not actually sure there is a bedchair that ticks all the boxes for me. I'd prefer a sleep system over bed and bag
I have a spinal injury, im in pain most of the time but i can angle effectively. However having a bedchair that aggrivates the pain firstly takes the enjoyment away of being on the bank and then secondly means i cant fish as i want to.
I've had a nash indulgence, goes way to soft and saggy offers no support for my back
I then bought the Solar c tech after seeing all the glowing reviews and have to say it's been horrendous, it's absolutely crippled every time I've been on the bank. I've had a 7.5cm self inflating matress to the bed and it's had little effect on improving the comfort. I'm a side sleeper and think because there is no give at all making it extremely firm it means there is extra pressure on my hips and lower back causing the pain. I know there is a memory foam version now but if the SIM made no difference on my one then il not sure the memory foam will be massively different
I've had the trakker oval and hated the shape of the bed itself, it's absolutely stupid you can't fit.a normal pillow on without it hanging over the edges then falling off. The bed was fairly comfortable though. The rlx sleep system only seems to come in a 3 season
I've been looking at the fox flatliner, one downside is the bag is fleece lined which I'm not a bag fan of stops you moving in the bag freely I find. I would put up with it if the bed is good
Like I said I don't think there is a bed that ticks every box but something that's firm but not to form
I have a spinal injury, im in pain most of the time but i can angle effectively. However having a bedchair that aggrivates the pain firstly takes the enjoyment away of being on the bank and then secondly means i cant fish as i want to.
I've had a nash indulgence, goes way to soft and saggy offers no support for my back
I then bought the Solar c tech after seeing all the glowing reviews and have to say it's been horrendous, it's absolutely crippled every time I've been on the bank. I've had a 7.5cm self inflating matress to the bed and it's had little effect on improving the comfort. I'm a side sleeper and think because there is no give at all making it extremely firm it means there is extra pressure on my hips and lower back causing the pain. I know there is a memory foam version now but if the SIM made no difference on my one then il not sure the memory foam will be massively different
I've had the trakker oval and hated the shape of the bed itself, it's absolutely stupid you can't fit.a normal pillow on without it hanging over the edges then falling off. The bed was fairly comfortable though. The rlx sleep system only seems to come in a 3 season
I've been looking at the fox flatliner, one downside is the bag is fleece lined which I'm not a bag fan of stops you moving in the bag freely I find. I would put up with it if the bed is good
Like I said I don't think there is a bed that ticks every box but something that's firm but not to form
In reply to Post #1
I'm in a similar position but without a spinal injury, just age catching up with me.
Tried a few different chairs overt the past few years but couldn't get 'The One'
The most comfortable one for me was my old Nash Indulgence Wideboy, new in 2011!! but I removed all of the bungee cord and tie wrapped it until it was firm enough, hammered the head and shoulder frame flatter and use a sim with it. Only downside is it weigh a sodding ton and doesn't fold up that well (because of the flatter frame).
However it the only bed I've had that I can actually get sleep on and wake up without feeling like I've trampled by elephants.
I'm in a similar position but without a spinal injury, just age catching up with me.
Tried a few different chairs overt the past few years but couldn't get 'The One'
The most comfortable one for me was my old Nash Indulgence Wideboy, new in 2011!! but I removed all of the bungee cord and tie wrapped it until it was firm enough, hammered the head and shoulder frame flatter and use a sim with it. Only downside is it weigh a sodding ton and doesn't fold up that well (because of the flatter frame).
However it the only bed I've had that I can actually get sleep on and wake up without feeling like I've trampled by elephants.
I have had about 12 stretchers
The quality of the Solar Build is top but I can't lie on it for 15 minutes, Trakker ovallite tail
I have had it too, bought a Fox Duralite felt a lot better then the Trakker but it is small, now I have the Fox flatliner and for me this is the best bed to lie on I have ever had (100% side sleeper)
Nash/Avid are not worth mentioning to me, the quality is not there
The quality of the Solar Build is top but I can't lie on it for 15 minutes, Trakker ovallite tail
I have had it too, bought a Fox Duralite felt a lot better then the Trakker but it is small, now I have the Fox flatliner and for me this is the best bed to lie on I have ever had (100% side sleeper)
Nash/Avid are not worth mentioning to me, the quality is not there
In reply to Post #3
I think there is a market to get this 'right'; however I think weight and packdown size is the contributory factor making it difficult and expensive to create without a load of issues. Maybe someone needs to design a simple but strong 'frame' (minus any padding / cover) that folds down small - then perhaps three differing mattress thickness options / types (eg pocket sprung) that roll up and are transported in a separate waterproof stuff sack. Mattress velcros onto frame (like a bed at home) job done . . .primary cost would be in mattress itself which would need to be waterproof / breathable - weight is the issue - think how heavy your mattress at home is, even on a single bed . . .OMC seem to be producing oversize stuff at the moment - maybe tap them up!
I think there is a market to get this 'right'; however I think weight and packdown size is the contributory factor making it difficult and expensive to create without a load of issues. Maybe someone needs to design a simple but strong 'frame' (minus any padding / cover) that folds down small - then perhaps three differing mattress thickness options / types (eg pocket sprung) that roll up and are transported in a separate waterproof stuff sack. Mattress velcros onto frame (like a bed at home) job done . . .primary cost would be in mattress itself which would need to be waterproof / breathable - weight is the issue - think how heavy your mattress at home is, even on a single bed . . .OMC seem to be producing oversize stuff at the moment - maybe tap them up!
In reply to Post #1
Side sleeping (plus being older!) gives completley different requirements from a bed imo. It must be softer as you have shoulder elbow and hip as the most prominent points as opposed to the loads being better spread for a back sleeper. I think most beds are designed for back sleepers. I have tried the firmer beds with no spring or cord and they are an absolute nightmare for me as a side sleeper. The best combination I have found (and I think its such a personal thing) is an AVID benchmark lite system (it has a cord all around) with an extra good quality SIM under the built in bag. That way I am getting the 'give' in the bed and also the softness of the memory foam and a SIM. Great idea to produce a frame with different choices. I wonder if someone will run with that.
Side sleeping (plus being older!) gives completley different requirements from a bed imo. It must be softer as you have shoulder elbow and hip as the most prominent points as opposed to the loads being better spread for a back sleeper. I think most beds are designed for back sleepers. I have tried the firmer beds with no spring or cord and they are an absolute nightmare for me as a side sleeper. The best combination I have found (and I think its such a personal thing) is an AVID benchmark lite system (it has a cord all around) with an extra good quality SIM under the built in bag. That way I am getting the 'give' in the bed and also the softness of the memory foam and a SIM. Great idea to produce a frame with different choices. I wonder if someone will run with that.
I'm a side sleeper and have the Solar bed which I find comfortable with the Helium sim on but recently got a Wychwood Tactical X Compact due to wanting a lighter weight bed. With the sim on that I think I actually prefer it to the Solar, early days though but so far impressed with it.
In reply to Post #1
Same issue being a side sleeper and finally found that the Sonik SK-TEK Levelbed coupled with a SIM now allows me a much better and comfortable night's sleep. No aches and pains, that I was getting when using the Solar Sp c tec bed which imo is far too firm and which is now surplus to requirements. See below link for details. Well worth the pennies😉
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/r.html?C=2X8R0PK3LTH9J&K=3EIJZGU5VKQBV&M=urn:rtn:msg:20231001160709a8e3422d19a24ae9995fc3a05ab0p0eu&R=KIB3FSE16O6K&T=C&U=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fdp%2FB0BN3CLDG2%2Fref%3Dpe_27063361_487055811_TE_dp_1&H=KFYSSZRLDCTBCH403IVQBN6AFUQA&ref_=pe_27063361_487055811_TE_dp_1
Same issue being a side sleeper and finally found that the Sonik SK-TEK Levelbed coupled with a SIM now allows me a much better and comfortable night's sleep. No aches and pains, that I was getting when using the Solar Sp c tec bed which imo is far too firm and which is now surplus to requirements. See below link for details. Well worth the pennies😉
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/r.html?C=2X8R0PK3LTH9J&K=3EIJZGU5VKQBV&M=urn:rtn:msg:20231001160709a8e3422d19a24ae9995fc3a05ab0p0eu&R=KIB3FSE16O6K&T=C&U=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2Fdp%2FB0BN3CLDG2%2Fref%3Dpe_27063361_487055811_TE_dp_1&H=KFYSSZRLDCTBCH403IVQBN6AFUQA&ref_=pe_27063361_487055811_TE_dp_1
In reply to Post #5
I'm side and back but think my expectations are lower than most - for me there's not that much comfort difference between a Wychwood Tactical X plus SIM and an original SP C Tech (use both) other than weight . . . never felt the need to add a SIM to the SP C Tech so might give it a try. On the other hand I don't wake up with major aches other than those I've always had since I can remember carp fishing . . .as previously stated its never been 'comfortable' and like most things a compromise especially as you get older . . .
I'm side and back but think my expectations are lower than most - for me there's not that much comfort difference between a Wychwood Tactical X plus SIM and an original SP C Tech (use both) other than weight . . . never felt the need to add a SIM to the SP C Tech so might give it a try. On the other hand I don't wake up with major aches other than those I've always had since I can remember carp fishing . . .as previously stated its never been 'comfortable' and like most things a compromise especially as you get older . . .
If weight/bulk is not concern then get a 10cm or 12cm sim. It will transform any bedchair but are a bit of a beast to carry and packdown, but are like sleeping on a bed at home
In reply to Post #9
I've got a 10cm sim, it was a real difference for me as a side sleeper. I've just gone from a nash ss3 to an avid lite to save weight. The ss3 was a good bedchair, but I'm not as muscular as i was in my youth. Saving weight is now a priority as I have to load and unload the car evey trip. How I envy those able to keep their gear in a van. When I win the lottery.
I've got a 10cm sim, it was a real difference for me as a side sleeper. I've just gone from a nash ss3 to an avid lite to save weight. The ss3 was a good bedchair, but I'm not as muscular as i was in my youth. Saving weight is now a priority as I have to load and unload the car evey trip. How I envy those able to keep their gear in a van. When I win the lottery.
In reply to Post #9
If so maybe this could be worth developing - flat frame with adjustable feet - lightweight tension bars (as slats) - 10/12cm quality self-inflating mattress perhaps with velcro perimeter fixing points (a bit like on a metal framed cradle). Frame weight saving negates mattress weight . . . .I'm calling Ali as we speak; 15% finders fee sounds reasonable?
If so maybe this could be worth developing - flat frame with adjustable feet - lightweight tension bars (as slats) - 10/12cm quality self-inflating mattress perhaps with velcro perimeter fixing points (a bit like on a metal framed cradle). Frame weight saving negates mattress weight . . . .I'm calling Ali as we speak; 15% finders fee sounds reasonable?
I've been the same with beds as a heavier side sleeper but been using this for the last 5 nights and it's maybe the best sleep I've ever had on the bank. It's fully inflatable so packs down far smaller than a proper sim, put in as much or little air as you need, it's also wider than most so is a great fit on my wide bed, 14cm deep too.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CTT95KWR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0CTT95KWR?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
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Looks a beast! My only issue is length at 200cms being a little small for us tall geezas
Looks a beast! My only issue is length at 200cms being a little small for us tall geezas
In reply to Post #1
Side sleeper with a bad back as well and use a tactical X with a thermarest mat. Not had the mat that long but it's a great improvement over the old one sim I had. The good thing with the tactical X and beds like it is you can alter, replace or adjust the bungee cord under it to suite yourself
Side sleeper with a bad back as well and use a tactical X with a thermarest mat. Not had the mat that long but it's a great improvement over the old one sim I had. The good thing with the tactical X and beds like it is you can alter, replace or adjust the bungee cord under it to suite yourself
In reply to Post #9
My experiences....my Helium 3.8 was great initially on my Trakker Levelite ELS but long periods as a side sleeper left me with pressure pain in the shoulders and hips. I think this was because it had to be fully inflated due to its small height which made it hard. I changed to a 7.5cm Sim, same result...but..I experimented with letting air out, until I was comfortable, now it's as good as it'll get, no more pain.
My wife has the 15cm Vango Shangri La Sim, it puts any bedchair to shame. I've spent far more time on it in a far shorter period than anglers do for fishing, it's another level of comfort.... but..once again a little too hard for me fully inflated. I did look around for a suitable base for it, be it raised army style bed or inflatable frame (Decathlon) but gave up as the ELS 7.5cm sim works well enough.
Experiment with your sim before writing it off.
My experiences....my Helium 3.8 was great initially on my Trakker Levelite ELS but long periods as a side sleeper left me with pressure pain in the shoulders and hips. I think this was because it had to be fully inflated due to its small height which made it hard. I changed to a 7.5cm Sim, same result...but..I experimented with letting air out, until I was comfortable, now it's as good as it'll get, no more pain.
My wife has the 15cm Vango Shangri La Sim, it puts any bedchair to shame. I've spent far more time on it in a far shorter period than anglers do for fishing, it's another level of comfort.... but..once again a little too hard for me fully inflated. I did look around for a suitable base for it, be it raised army style bed or inflatable frame (Decathlon) but gave up as the ELS 7.5cm sim works well enough.
Experiment with your sim before writing it off.