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Kev Baines Snipers (59 posts / 5,357 views)
fzrip
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Post #1 4 Sep 2023 16:57
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What is it that makes these rods so legendary?
They've got such a great reputation...
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
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Post #2 4 Sep 2023 17:35
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A great blank built by a rod builder who knows his onions.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #3 4 Sep 2023 18:12
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mark1009
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Post #4 4 Sep 2023 18:44
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I've often wondered why nearly all carp rods have 6 rings. What would be the effect of adding 1 or more to the set. Now we have such lightweight rings available, the extra weight of another ring just before the tip would be negligible.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #5 4 Sep 2023 18:49
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Kev told me to put 9 or 10 guides on (baby snipers blank ) i built on but try tell people that i have 8 on mine plus tip starting with 25ml butt guide awesome rods.
Hudson Hudson
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Post #6 4 Sep 2023 19:34
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What does it actually achieve and what are the negatives?
OatcakeFred OatcakeFred
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Post #7 4 Sep 2023 19:45
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Said it before on this forum, but my 12ft Mk1 Armalites 2lb test curve which Kevin rebuilt in 2017 have 9 guides - 2 on the butt section and 7 on the tip section. They are excellent rods.

I always remember as a kid growing up in the 70's, all fishing books said the blank should have lots of guides so that the line follows the arc of the rod when playing a fish. This always seemed a reasonable theory to me, yet carp rods seem to be the exception.

Never really understood the fashion of massive 50mm butt rings and 6 guides/blank. Think they look ridiculous and don't offer any advantage over a rod build like my Armalites. I'm sure some people will have a view on casting ability with a 50mm/6 guide rod, but in the right hands, my rods are capable of distance work.
mark1009
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Post #8 4 Sep 2023 19:57
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Yes that is was trying to get at. How many rings are on a 13ft match rod. I can't see why more rings aren't the norm especially since the newer lighter rings are available. If I get some new rods custom made I think I will go for more rings.
jeffire jeffire
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Post #9 4 Sep 2023 20:19
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I have said it on here for years and people are probably fed up with me talking about it but absolutely no need for large guides on a carp fishing rod !
The positives with smaller/more guides
Baby snipers
They cast like a dream with lighter line compared to a 6 or 7 guide rod
They will exert a hell of a lot of applied pressure dont forget this is a 2.25 tc blank
They handle much heavier leads i have used 6 oz on the 2.25 on rivers
So much more accurate casting
Much less chance of breaking or bending guides in transit

The big snipers are a blank that if you have 6 guides on i guarantee 90%of people cant compress. Put more and smaller guides on and you wont believe how it responds.
The only negative i can find is when /if you need to use heavy /thick line you wont get the distance.


scozza
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Post #10 5 Sep 2023 13:09
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Out of interest, what blank are they built on?

Thinking about upgrading my barbel rods
jeffire jeffire
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Post #11 5 Sep 2023 14:28
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Baby snipers 12 ft 2.25 tc torrix
Big snipers torrix t.e
fzrip
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Post #12 5 Sep 2023 15:16
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So, there's nothing they can't handle other than long range... Those blanks must be totally reliable.
lilharbs lilharbs
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Post #13 5 Sep 2023 15:23
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I wanted a set of these but Kev retired a few months before I got the chance, then I missed out on 2 x 2nd hand sets of the Baby's on different occasions- once even agreeing the price and then the buyer pulled out ☹️

Jeff could you replicate the build yourself of the Babys?

PM if you like
jeffire jeffire
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Post #14 5 Sep 2023 15:33
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Which are you talking about
fzrip
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Post #15 5 Sep 2023 16:10
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I assume leader and light mainline, no bait/rig. Am I wrong that they're not suited for real world range fishing? I'm intrigued again.
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