I recently had all rods wiped out fishing 2 on one spot and 1 on another. Big 3am untangling job. The fish went through my lines and although I took the bail arm off it was all a birdsnest. I wondered what you fellas do to manage this sort of situation / how to avoid it
In reply to Post #1
Back leads
Back leads
In reply to Post #1
If not using backleads, kick the other 2 rods off the sticks/bar/pod, so tips are submerged as far as possible.. Helps when close to netting
If not using backleads, kick the other 2 rods off the sticks/bar/pod, so tips are submerged as far as possible.. Helps when close to netting
In reply to Post #1
In tight swims I'll either fish tips up and fairly tight lines so I can play the find underneath or as mentioned lower the other 2 right down to allow to net over the top
In tight swims I'll either fish tips up and fairly tight lines so I can play the find underneath or as mentioned lower the other 2 right down to allow to net over the top
I would just use back leads if it's not weedy and reasonably flat, if it's a really tight swim I'd just go down to 2 rods
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Agree - also make sure you're fishing on tight clutches; there's no need for a fish to strip 50yds before you've even got to it if your rods are locked down; its a recipe for kiting / crossed lines etc.
In addition before you pick up the rod that's roared off (or at the same time if you're adept enough) lift the other rod(s) and place the reel itself in the crutch of the alarm; then quickly loosen the clutch / engage the baitrunner - this way the rod tips are fully submerged whilst the rods remain semi-retained . . .
Agree - also make sure you're fishing on tight clutches; there's no need for a fish to strip 50yds before you've even got to it if your rods are locked down; its a recipe for kiting / crossed lines etc.
In addition before you pick up the rod that's roared off (or at the same time if you're adept enough) lift the other rod(s) and place the reel itself in the crutch of the alarm; then quickly loosen the clutch / engage the baitrunner - this way the rod tips are fully submerged whilst the rods remain semi-retained . . .
Usually soon as I hit a run, regardless of rod, I mute my alarms, nothing no worse than an alarm going off whilst playing a fish if lines get crossed, even worse if 2 alarms are going drawing attention to yourself and every one running down to your swim with what always sounds like diving boots on (one of my pet hates and I don't mince my words when I speak to such people about their etiquette) and then shining torch's everywhere if its night and into your face, wanting to reel your rods in etc, wanting to net the fish etc, taking pictures, phoning there mate's etc taking pictures of you playing it, asking stupid questions like when are you leaving or informing you they are moving into next peg etc. And having to watch them that they do not stand on any of your tackle or even get in your way.
Anyway, I diversed, when playing the fish, watch for an LED or an to light up or an indicator to lift up on your other rods and with not having any alarms turned on, you will not be panicked into turning it off if you do not want to attract unwanted visitors, so its best to do it whilst fish is well out in lake rather than under rod tops. If you see an LED light up, you know the fish has gone under the line of that rod, so, usually I pull away from the general direction of that line and keep the tip down, if the indicator stays up, you know the fish has not come out from under that line. If it does not look like it is going to come out from underneath the line, pick up that rod and step underneath and place it down again or if possible just pass your rod underneath the rod that has been fouled, it comes with practice that manoeuvre.
At some point, once I am sure the fish has not gone under any of my lines, I will then lift the rods off the alarms and drop the tips into the water, maybe to get the fish across the tops of my lines and get it to the side I want to net it. To do it with a fish under a line, can result in a disaster as it will lead to a big tangle. Sometimes though, if I am fishing tight lines out into the lake, I may leave the rods on the rest as the lines will be high and I can play the fish out underneath the lines especially if its the left or right hand rod I am holding, but if its the centre rod, then usually, just one rod will have its tip lowered to allow me to get it to the netting side. Everything depends on circumstances.
Anyway, I diversed, when playing the fish, watch for an LED or an to light up or an indicator to lift up on your other rods and with not having any alarms turned on, you will not be panicked into turning it off if you do not want to attract unwanted visitors, so its best to do it whilst fish is well out in lake rather than under rod tops. If you see an LED light up, you know the fish has gone under the line of that rod, so, usually I pull away from the general direction of that line and keep the tip down, if the indicator stays up, you know the fish has not come out from under that line. If it does not look like it is going to come out from underneath the line, pick up that rod and step underneath and place it down again or if possible just pass your rod underneath the rod that has been fouled, it comes with practice that manoeuvre.
At some point, once I am sure the fish has not gone under any of my lines, I will then lift the rods off the alarms and drop the tips into the water, maybe to get the fish across the tops of my lines and get it to the side I want to net it. To do it with a fish under a line, can result in a disaster as it will lead to a big tangle. Sometimes though, if I am fishing tight lines out into the lake, I may leave the rods on the rest as the lines will be high and I can play the fish out underneath the lines especially if its the left or right hand rod I am holding, but if its the centre rod, then usually, just one rod will have its tip lowered to allow me to get it to the netting side. Everything depends on circumstances.
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How loud do you have your alarms turned up. I struggle to hear mine if i walk out the swim for a quick piss, even with the receiver in the bivvy. No way anyone else hears them. They are there to alert you, not the rest of the world
How loud do you have your alarms turned up. I struggle to hear mine if i walk out the swim for a quick piss, even with the receiver in the bivvy. No way anyone else hears them. They are there to alert you, not the rest of the world
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I have them very quiet and only on the remote which is usually hung up in the bivvy or in my pocket and to me, I can barely hear it outside the bivvy.
But, having spent 23 years in the army, I am deaf as a post almost with firing "heavy weapons" and hardly able to hear high frequencies unless using my hearing aids so my quiet is loud to others and occasionally draws unwanted attention when all I want to do is, play a fish in peace and be just left alone especially when it comes to recasting and you have hangers on wanting to see everything long after the fish has been returned and only leave after recasting.
I have them very quiet and only on the remote which is usually hung up in the bivvy or in my pocket and to me, I can barely hear it outside the bivvy.
But, having spent 23 years in the army, I am deaf as a post almost with firing "heavy weapons" and hardly able to hear high frequencies unless using my hearing aids so my quiet is loud to others and occasionally draws unwanted attention when all I want to do is, play a fish in peace and be just left alone especially when it comes to recasting and you have hangers on wanting to see everything long after the fish has been returned and only leave after recasting.
It's normally fairly easy if it's the outside rods, as you can take a couple of steps further out, with the landing net in hand.
It is the middle rod that is more of a problem.
If I have a rod cast long as a 'rover, past the other rods, I usually use the middle rod as I can then step to the side with that as well.
I normally keep my rod tips down so the line runs low in the water, Running leads and slack lines help as well, easy on a shallow lake, and rare to pick up another line when playing a fish.
It is the middle rod that is more of a problem.
If I have a rod cast long as a 'rover, past the other rods, I usually use the middle rod as I can then step to the side with that as well.
I normally keep my rod tips down so the line runs low in the water, Running leads and slack lines help as well, easy on a shallow lake, and rare to pick up another line when playing a fish.
In reply to Post #1
Back leads and / or single sticks.
Back leads and / or single sticks.
In reply to Post #9
Fair enough. I'm assuming you're on day ticket or club waters? I'd hope a syndicate try and discourage all that
Fair enough. I'm assuming you're on day ticket or club waters? I'd hope a syndicate try and discourage all that
In reply to Post #1
Can you stick waders on and get out into the water? That's helps to avoid tangles, although there's always that one fish that goes on a nutty.
I find more issues with pike getting tangled in the line on my water, and back leads actually make it worse
Can you stick waders on and get out into the water? That's helps to avoid tangles, although there's always that one fish that goes on a nutty.
I find more issues with pike getting tangled in the line on my water, and back leads actually make it worse
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There's one commercial I fish and the lake bed is up and down like a whores draws, it doesn't matter if you are back leaded I've been wiped out multiple times. I think the only thing you can do sometimes if using three rods on a lake like the one I go to is to fish the left and right rods down each margin. It's a PIA. I might just fish two rods this year to try and reduce the chances of it.
There's one commercial I fish and the lake bed is up and down like a whores draws, it doesn't matter if you are back leaded I've been wiped out multiple times. I think the only thing you can do sometimes if using three rods on a lake like the one I go to is to fish the left and right rods down each margin. It's a PIA. I might just fish two rods this year to try and reduce the chances of it.
Rarely fish 3 now, 2 rods so much easier, but if I do put out a third, it's on single sticks as far as possible from my other 2, and obviously cast to a different area, seems to help.